Real World Info

[grean]

If you don't wish to give out your personal info, go to another provider. Build references. If even with references from established providers, a lady still wants RW info from you, and you still don't want to give that info, THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GIRL.

Trying to argue the merits and downsides of trading RW info is silly. No logical argument will get anyone to change their minds.

[rcinokc]

Originally Posted by BLM69

The wanting of personal information is a false sense of security, just like the P411 client that didn't pay. Once everybody understands that life and people can change from one meeting to the next, we might get somewhere.

This, and for the record I'm not trying to get anyone to change their mind. Just pointing out that IMO having RW info is of little to no value.

[Guest083119]

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[grean]

Originally Posted by rcinokc

This, and for the record I'm not trying to get anyone to change their mind. Just pointing out that IMO having RW info is of little to no value.

If the girl needs rw info before she sees you, it's of great value to her

Can it be faked or falsified? Sure. Does giving it and passing her screening mean she is risk free? Nope.

If you're so new to the game you are ask for it, could it be possible she may know more than you?

Can you suck your own dick? Well, If you want her to, give her the info she asks of you.

[TheOracle]

I'm not trying to change any provider's mind on how she screens. It's her personal choice. However, it is a discussion that may bring some insight to new hobbyists and present some info that they may not have been aware of.

[grean]

Originally Posted by Admiral Giggle

Hobby Name
Hobby Number
Hobby Email

Have a 2nd set of license plates to swap out before arriving to incall for those who like to take pictures or write down plate numbers or put black electrical tape to change a letter or number on the plates as a disguise.

Dint forget the fake nose & mustache, with glasses with a tweed hat and trench coat to disguise your identity.

[Nicole Cox]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

While this post provides good insight, it also presents a strong case for the opposing side.

You admit that RW info provides you access to a wealth of private info and points of contact for people's wives, families, friends, employers, etc. Sorry, but that is not information I would want random providers to have access to, and for those here who are married I would think this would especially be a HUGE red flag and concern. While you may not use that info maliciously, it only takes one wild card and that could wreck someone's life.

You say that you've seen provider backlash just for a simple "NO" review. That shows malicious intent and irrational behavior. Not a good combination for someone who could gain the level of access to your personal info that you say you have. I don't think anyone made the assumption that a guy would "always" be outted or that all providers are shady, but it only takes ONE. Rolling the dice and hoping that the provider you picked is not going to be that one is very risky. The reality is this whole hobby is based on a lot of lies, illusions, and feigning interest. So no matter how "sweet", "established", "reputable" (or whatever adjective we choose) some ladies might appear to be, we really don't know them or what they're capable of.

I personally don't think it's worth the risk, but to each his own.


https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2553464

You are absolutely right.. it only takes one takes one. One shady provider or one client that wants to hurt someone or kill someone. Every time somebody sends me their information as a newbie I make sure that they know not to send it to anybody else there's no reason for anybody else to ask for it it's cuz they can use me as a reference from then on out. And it's up to each individual to do their homework on who they're dealing with and weigh the risks because at the end of the day I have too much to lose and not enough to gain As with most.

I don't believe anybody that's adamant about where they stand will have their mind or opinion suede in the least by this thread but my point was to give insight as to why me, myself and and myself alone asks for ID I can't speak on another provider or what they're going to do I don't operate like other providers I wouldn't begin to know what their motives are find some of their actions.

[grean]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

I'm not trying to change any provider's mind on how she screens. It's her personal choice. However, it is a discussion that may bring some insight to new hobbyists and present some info that they may not have been aware of.

Insight it great. However, If a newb starts to explain to a provider how her screening methods are shit and don't assure her safety, that won't get him very far.


It could even be good advise. She will still just feel he is being an asshole.

[BLM69]

Sucks to be a newbie, I do advise to go see sherry to get broken in! I didn't have to do it but these days are different

[CPutnam]

Originally Posted by B Three

Notify friends? Notify family? Are you saying that about people getting arrested and being on the news? That has NOTHING to do with giving anyone personal info.

Cops don't call your wife or friends, or job. That is ridiculous to even claim. Cases of cops caring about anything past making an arrest and going after client records are incredibly rare. I read 1000s of arrest and court records. Tens of thousands...if you could find ten cases in the past ten years in Texas that have nothing to do with a federal charge like money laundering or racketeering. Yes, I know that with the the increased interest in sex trafficking the possibility of fed involvement is rising. but again, that has nothing to do with giving info.

The only valid point in this thread, IMHO, is the guy who got burned by a provider who got mad at him and posted his info. THAT is a valid concern, but I still with the stats that cops do not routinely get search warrants for the phones of people involved in routine prostitution arrest. And court orders for anything but major investigations are even more rare.

There is no nexus between giving someone limited personal info and getting arrested.

Cops and P.I DO contact anyone they want to. If I could only give real world details on what goes down when they get going on vice operations, but hey don't believe me or word I'm saying,give all the real world info you want to...you seem to have all the concrete tactics that hobbiest won't need to worry about soooo ok 👌🏾

[Brandofan]

Originally Posted by grean

Insight it great. However, If a newb starts to explain to a provider how her screening methods are shit and don't assure her safety, that won't get him very far.


It could even be good advise. She will still just feel he is being an asshole.

No one should try and 'explain' to a provider how to screen when trying to book with her. You either abide by her process or politely decline and move on. But when faced with a decision to share personal info with someone who could possibly blow up your personal and professional life through malicious intent or just careless indiscretion I think it is only fair to warn the OP and casual newb of the risks.

I like B3. Heck I sincerely hope to meet up with her someday and I can certainly understand her and Nicole's perspective regarding their personal safety. But I really don't care for the way she seems to be dismissing the concern from the male perspective. I understand that B3 is reputable. That is however BY FAR the exception, not the rule, and does not mean that it is safe in general to give out your RWI to providers.

Hopefully someday P411 will open up to new members. Until then my advice to newbs? Be patient, think with the big head, and find a newbie friendly provider. Maybe start with FBSM or stick with AMPs. But do not give your RWI without carefully considering the person with whom you are sharing it.

[slubby]

Originally Posted by grean

Dint forget the fake nose & mustache, with glasses with a tweed hat and trench coat to disguise your identity.

If I have to go through that much trouble to have sex with someone...then I probably need to re-evaluate my decisions and life choices.

[Guest122922]

I have clients who I've seen for years and still do not know their RW name.
High Profile gentleman do not like to discuss their personal life, family, kids, where they live or work or any of that stuff.
We keep the conversations on the weather, sports, travel destinations and current news events.

As far as the comfort level ..... it isn't that I know their real name ..... it is how they conduct themselves on the board ..... or from first contact to the session.
Also, checking with the ladies they have visited in the past helps.

Fake names gives us our alternate identity, which is actually part of the fun of the fantasy.

[BLM69]

Originally Posted by Torre Tames

I have clients who I've seen for years and still do not know their RW name.
High Profile gentleman do not like to discuss their personal life, family, kids, where they live or work or any of that stuff.
We keep the conversations on the weather, sports, travel destinations and current news events.

As far as the comfort level ..... it isn't that I know their real name ..... it is how they conduct themselves on the board ..... or from first contact to the session.
Also, checking with the ladies they have visited in the past helps.

Fake names gives us our alternate identity, which is actually part of the fun of the fantasy.

I'm low profile and wouldn't give out my RW name or info out, once I can run background checks on providers I might start being more open

[friendly fred]

I've never had a problem with this and have never given out real world information until I've known a provider for at least a year.

My first meeting with an independent is always lunch and I pay her the full rate for her time. Nothing illegal about that and I never discuss pay for play. It is so obvious to all the parties that we will get to that eventually (assuming she is pretty enough and doesn't think I'm a dickhead) there is no need to ever discuss it. I've never explicitly paid a woman for sex but I've been with lots of women who left satisfied with the encounter. I would guess I've probably had sex with at least 250 different women over the years. Strippers, strip club waitresses, independents, AMP girls, subAmp girls, various Sugar Daddy websites and a surprising number of women from Twitter lately - hardest thing about them is they end up liking me which astounds me because I'm truly an asshole. (My screen name is meant to be ironic)

I've managed to to avoid screening other than references this way for years. Decades at this point! Some of you guys may think it is stupid as fuck to pay a girl $400 bucks to go to lunch at a nice place and pay for her meal but I'm of the opinion the cops wouldn't go to the trouble of pursuing me me for that (not illegal anyway) and my freedom means more to me than a couple grand per year in meal expenses on top of the regular hobbying budget of considerably higher than that.

Hell, it has even worked for a few B list soft porn stars, and I still love to watch their porn to this day.

I admit I can't guarantee this method will work for every girl out there - but why get fixated on one girl?

Send out an invitation to several at a time just like SeekingArrangement and such - play the odds. Some will play and some won't. Some change their mind when money is tight.

When in doubt, go to Costa Rica! They couldn't give a fuck about your name down there!