So, you still think Covid came from Bats?

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by bambino

Yes, MIT does/did get funding from China. Many schools do:



https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...ts/ar-BB1cL9F6

This professor is not from the biology department. His grants have nothing to due with m-RNA technology. So, the Chinese are not in control of the person who said that no genetic markings were found on the Sars CoV2 virus that would indicate the spike protein component of the virus was altered in the Wuhan lab.

From your link:

An MIT professor and nanotechnology expert was charged with failing to disclose to the U.S. Department of Energy millions of dollars in funding he allegedly received from China, the latest in a slew of similar cases. Nice try though.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

You should go read the link in post #46. If you read already, you should read again because it went completely over your head. The question with the Sars CoV2 virus is how did its Spike proteins develop a such a strong affinity to react with a protein ACE2 found in the cell membrane of lung cells. Did this evolve (mutation) or did someone play with the amino acid sequence of the Spike protein at the Wuhan lab. There is no proof that the amino acid sequence of the Spike protein was played with by a human. If you or Rand Paul find any evidence of that we will be right HERE on eccie.net waiting to HEAR from you.

From the MIT link

This generated a startling result: the spike proteins studding SARS-CoV-2 bound more tightly to their human cell receptor, a protein called ACE2, than target receptors on any other species evaluated. In other words, SARS-CoV-2 was surprisingly well adapted to its human prey, which is unusual for a newly emerging pathogen. “Holy shit, that’s really weird,’” Petrovsky recalls thinking.

Don't be silly adav8s28, LexusLover doesn't read, he posts. He posts a lot.

The MIT article is well balanced, with lots of ammunition for anyone who wants to make the argument that the virus escaped from the Wuhan lab.

[Yssup Rider]

There is talk of a new strain of Bird Flu bubbling up in China.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-b...st-human-case/

[Tiny]

Oh Shit

[bambino]

The US calls for investigation into Wuhan lab leak and China reacts by saying they will prepare for Nuclear War... YEP! Definitely not hiding anything.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by bambino

The US calls for investigation into Wuhan lab leak and China reacts by saying they will prepare for Nuclear War... YEP! Definitely not hiding anything.

You're talking about this editorial?

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1224725.shtml

It's probably not chiefly a reaction to calls for an investigation into the virus. There's also Taiwan, the U.S. military presence in east Asia, criticism of China over Hong Kong and Xinjiang, tariffs, the extradition of Meng Wanzhou, U.S. military spending that dwarfs China's, and the U.S. attempting to impose its will on other countries through sanctions.

Most importantly, perhaps our nuclear arsenal and weapons defense systems could wipe China off the face of the earth before they could wipe us off the face of the earth. So MAD (mutually assured destruction) seems like a good strategy to some in China.

Rhetorical question, how many times has someone here posted "nuke China?"

Too bad people like Richard Nixon and Deng Xiaoping aren't leading our countries. We used to get along pretty well.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Tiny

You're talking about this editorial?

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1224725.shtml

It's probably not chiefly a reaction to calls for an investigation into the virus. There's also Taiwan, the U.S. military presence in east Asia, criticism of China over Hong Kong and Xinjiang, tariffs, the extradition of Meng Wanzhou, and the U.S. attempting to impose its will on other countries through sanctions.

Too bad people like Richard Nixon and Deng Xiaoping aren't leading our countries. We used to get along pretty well.

No, It’s a post from Il Donaldo Trumpo!!!!!! But it’s true!!!

[txdot-guy]

Why do people always try to blame naturally occurring diseases on some kind of intentional effort. Evolution has been infecting humans with bacterial infections, viral infections, fungal infections for hundreds of thousands of years.

typhoid, rabies, polio, diphtheria, malaria, the avian flu, the 1918 pandemic, the bubonic plague, etc, etc. The list goes on and on.

All of these diseases came about naturally. There is no reason to suspect that the novel coronavirus is any different.

[LexusLover]

Speaking of nonsense and bats .... I remember watching the bats in Austin catching a cricket dinner in the evenings after dark. May be Covid19 was started in Austin by the DimWits hanging out there.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Why do people always try to blame naturally occurring diseases on some kind of intentional effort. Evolution has been infecting humans with bacterial infections, viral infections, fungal infections for hundreds of thousands of years.

typhoid, rabies, polio, diphtheria, malaria, the avian flu, the 1918 pandemic, the bubonic plague, etc, etc. The list goes on and on.

All of these diseases came about naturally. There is no reason to suspect that the novel coronavirus is any different.

Because politicians are always looking to score points? And the public is always looking for someone to blame?

I'll add ebola, smallpox, the hantavirus, MERS, and SARS to your list. There are a lot of things out there with much higher fatality rates than COVID. Thankfully, during our lifetimes, vaccines and good work by doctors, scientists, and public health workers have prevented them from wreaking havoc. Thank goodness for people like Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates!

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Why do people always try to blame naturally occurring .... Evolution .... for hundreds of thousands of years.

That's my thought on "global warming" .... why blame it on Humans and burning FOSIL FUEL when the Earth has etched proof that warming and cooling has been ongoing for MILLIONS OF YEARS! I guess the DimWits get to pick their topic depending on their agenda this year!

Last year the current so-called administration wouldn't take the vaccine .... after the inauguration ... Got to take it!

If you really want to know why the Covid19 cells ... ask Fauci.

He knows all about it. If you don't want to know then just keep pouting about the bats and their bat shit. But for God's sake quit blaming the baboons!

[Jacuzzme]

Why the hell would anybody take medical advice Bill Gates? He has no medical background whatsoever. Even though he’s fucked up everything he’s touched and flip flops like a brook trout in a canoe, at least Fauci has some type of training (although I’ve not heard of his philanthropy). Gates is more than welcome to donate billions derived from his shitty OS, but he should do so and stfu.

Edit: The philanthropist reference was from tiny’s comment that was apparently edited out.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Why the hell would anybody take medical advice Bill Gates? He has no medical background whatsoever. Even though he’s fucked up everything he’s touched and flip flops like a brook trout in a canoe, at least Fauci has some type of training (although I’ve not heard of his philanthropy). Gates is more than welcome to donate billions derived from his shitty OS, but he should do so and stfu.

By setting up and helping to fund GAVI, the vaccine alliance, Gates has saved millions from death and misery. I don't believe he offers medical advice.

The Gavi story begins towards the end of the 20th century, when global immunisation efforts were beginning to plateau. Despite the promising progress of the previous two decades, by the Expanded Programme on Immunization (EPI), there were still 30 million children living in poor countries who were not fully immunised. Coverage was stagnating and in some places even declining. And even though new life-saving vaccines were becoming available, beyond the original six EPI vaccines, virtually none were reaching children in developing countries, those who needed them most, because they were too expensive.

What was needed was an entirely new approach. So, with the help of a US$ 750 million five-year pledge from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, in January 2000 the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunisation (Gavi) was created. A unique public-private partnership, Gavi was created to bring together the best of what key UN agencies, governments, the vaccine industry, private sector and civil society had to offer in order to improve childhood immunisation coverage in poor countries and to accelerate access to new vaccines.

This model was designed to leverage not just financial resources but expertise too, to help make vaccines more affordable, more available and their provision more sustainable, by working towards a point where developing countries can pay for them themselves. It was a 21st century development model for a new millennium and one which works, by 2018 reaching over 700 million children since its creation and preventing more than 10 million future deaths in the process. And that’s just the beginning. Gavi aims to reach 300 million children between 2016 and 2020, preventing 5-6 million deaths over the long term.

https://www.gavi.org/history-gavi

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

That's my thought on "global warming" .... why blame it on Humans and burning FOSIL FUEL when the Earth has etched proof that warming and cooling has been ongoing for MILLIONS OF YEARS! I guess the DimWits get to pick their topic depending on their agenda this year!

That's because there is a scientific consensus that 150 years of human based carbon dioxide release has contributed to a global rise in average temperatures.


There is no scientific consensus of any kind that shows that the novel coronavirus has been artificially created or modified in any way. By all means we should investigate the possibility but the odds are that the novel coronavirus is a naturally evolved virus that jumped from animals to humans. Just like all the others before it.

[Jacuzzme]

Gates has given 100 different interviews pretending to be some kind of expert in the field. Like I said, his money is welcome, but he should stroke checks and stfu because he has no expertise on the subject whatsoever.