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Old 08-02-2012, 09:02 PM   #76
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It's well understood that FDR was hoping for war with Germany and had undertaken many actions to bring it about. After Pearl Harbor FDR made sure that the campaign against Germany was the first priority rather than that against Japan. Hitler had no choice but to declare war under the circumstances facing the German navy in the atlantic given what the US was doing there.
that is correct, the US Navy was involved in what was then a secret war against the german navy.
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:19 PM   #77
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The fact that you stoop to insults shows that you have no evidence or knowledge on your side.

Here's some real evidence.

After Steven Speilberg produced the fictional "Shindler's List" he produced a non-fiction film, "The Last Days."

Unfortunately after the film's release it turned out that most of the "survivors" in the film were liars. They were a small number of such liars who have made handsome livings out of fabricating tails of mass murders in the camps, consistent with the hoaxes of the Nuremberg trials.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXc08

After these "witnesses" were discredited Speilberg wanted to get to the truth of what really happend, so he endowed USC with millions of dollars to track down and record on film the testimony of as many living camp survivors as could be found.

This project, the "Shoah Project of USC" has provided for the first time an accurate account of what life was like in the camps, told by thousands of camp survivors instead of the handful of liars who are otherwise the only ones heard.

According to 99% of these survivors there was no mass killings. There were however hospitals, football leagues, theaters, and at Auschwitz even a swimming pool. All of this is totally consistent with what the International Red Cross found on their many visits to the camps.

BTW the IRC also cooperated with the CIA and the Vatican to help German "war criminals" escape from Europe.

Just because the public continues to believe these myths doesn't mean there's any evidence.

The public also believes that Stalin died from a stroke when he didn't [he was murdered in a coup on March 23, 1953]

The public also believes that Hitler died in a bunker and his body burned [Hitler and Martin Boorman escaped to Argentina and lived there for years with CIA assistance].

While Hitler and Boorman were safely in Argentina having children and eating bratwurst Hitler's chief intelligence officer, Reinhard Gehlen, was set up with his entire apperatus by the CIA as West Germany's new Intelligence Service. Gehlen and his group remained in control of all West German Intelligence until their respective retirements.
this makes sense as something like 500,000 - 800,000 nazis were never prosecuted for their crimes.

I do believe that Hitler faked his death and escaped by submarine to Argentina.

Um, I think Martin Borman died in berlin, I believe they found his body in the early 70's when construction crews were ripping the ground and found his remains.
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:42 PM   #78
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ya know, this hitler-holocost thing is running off topic. this thread's supposed to be about clinton!
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:47 PM   #79
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Clinton may have been a madman. But by today's standards, he's looking pretty good.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:02 AM   #80
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All your alleged facts have repeatedly been shown to be lies and distortions. No government, least of all the U.S. and Germany, have "repudiated" the results of the Nuremberg trials nor the occurrence of the Holocaust. The camps existed - some of them are still there. Every major figure who visited them in the last days of the war were horrified by what they saw. Patton actually vomitted, it was so bad. Listen to Edward R. Murrow's broadcasts or look at the pictures. I seriously doubt every major figure in Western Europe in 1945 was in on the plot. At Nuremberg some of the Nazis on trial, especially Goering, vigorously and proudly defended what they had done. None were "tortured" into giving confessions because none confessed, except Speer. You should read his book. Enough.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:45 AM   #81
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All your alleged facts have repeatedly been shown to be lies and distortions. No government, least of all the U.S. and Germany, have "repudiated" the results of the Nuremberg trials nor the occurrence of the Holocaust. The camps existed - some of them are still there. Every major figure who visited them in the last days of the war were horrified by what they saw. Patton actually vomitted, it was so bad. Listen to Edward R. Murrow's broadcasts or look at the pictures. I seriously doubt every major figure in Western Europe in 1945 was in on the plot. At Nuremberg some of the Nazis on trial, especially Goering, vigorously and proudly defended what they had done. None were "tortured" into giving confessions because none confessed, except Speer. You should read his book(s). Enough.
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:48 PM   #82
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Acedemic historians have found that these forms of evidence just have not stood up.

YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT!


The starving people in the camps were starving because there was no food.

Yeah, you Maroon, it was the Atkins Diet gone horribly wrong. What an IDIOT!

The Germans kept detailed records of every single Jewish man, woman and child murdered in that way. They also kept records of everyone who died in the camps, and how they died.

Sure, they did, you lying, uninformed POS!

It was a terrible and unforgiveable crime, but it was not a genocide.

Oh no! It was just a medical study without proper supervision.


And as bad as it was it was not as bad as what the Soviets did in each and every one of these countries.

At least people joined sports teams and ballet companies and had a chance to defect under the Soviets, STUPID!


That's why the CIA helped Nazi war criminals escape, and worked with them after the war to try to defeat Stalin.

Yeah! In Argentina?

YOU REALLY ARE A FUCKING IDIOT!


In all these efforts the CIA did not succeed.

And now you want us to believe you are an expert on the CIA, too? LMAO! You should go get psychiatric help as soon as possible.

I thought COF and I.B. Stupid were the two craziest and most illogical posters here but now I see we have a contender who should be given a "Title Shot" right away and then humanely euthanized as soon as possible.
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