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UnderConstruction · 03-12-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nwarounder

Yes, an American president negotiating "peace" talks with the most evil, slave owning, terrorist regime in the world. Since when do liberals support any country that allows slavery and sponsors terrorism? Want to bring their ways back to the USA too? I understand you want to support Obama under all circumstances, but I really don't think you have thought this one through.

No worries though, if Obama does sign an agreement with Iran, Israel will take out their nuclear capabilities and the people in America will stand by them. With the exception of Obama and a few supporters, of course.

You assume what is in Israel's best interest is also in our best interest. America stands by Israel out of some misguided religious need. As most on here who comment like you do, you've stretched out the equation to its breaking point. Who said anything about bringing it back here? Iran is a sovereign nation. They have yet to use a nuclear weapon on another country (something we can't say, regardless of the circumstances). They should be watched like a hawk. I don't deny that point, but we can't just march in and start barking orders at them. That will get us absolutely nowhere. They will still develop whatever it is they want to develop and we will have no oversight and no way to check on what they're up to.

IIFFOFRDB · 03-12-2015, 09:03 PM

LexusLover · 03-13-2015, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

Iran is a sovereign nation. They have yet to use a nuclear weapon on another country (something we can't say, regardless of the circumstances). They should be watched like a hawk. I don't deny that point, but we can't just march in and start barking orders at them.

Does Iran have a "nuclear weapon"?

Iran signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty in 1968. It is being reported they are violating the terms of the NPT, and if they develop a nuclear weapon they will be in violation of the NPT.

As a general practice I don't enter into agreements with people who have already violated an existing agreement with me, particularly when they have attempted to conceal their violations.

Guest040616 · 03-13-2015, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LexusLover

As a general practice I don't enter into agreements with people who have already violated an existing agreement with me, particularly when they have attempted to conceal their violations.

Dick Cheney, is that you?

BTW, how's your ol' buddy Harry Whittington doing these days?

He was sure lucky to survive you shooting him in the face.

Poor guy! I suspect he probably thought twice before going hunting with you again.

Shhhh, just between you and I:

Did Harry say something to you that morning that pissed you off?

LexusLover · 03-13-2015, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtex

BTW, how's your ol' buddy Harry Whittington doing these days?

Do you know Mr. Whittington?

I figured you'd look him up, since you're stalking in Austin these days.

Mr. Whittington is a very nice man. He would probably even be respectful to you.

Guest040616 · 03-13-2015, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LexusLover

Do you know Mr. Whittington?

I figured you'd look him up, since you're stalking in Austin these days.

Mr. Whittington is a very nice man. He would probably even be respectful to you.

"Stalking?"

That's a rather serious charge!

Link please!

From Wiki:

"Stalking is unwanted or obsessive attention by an individual or group toward another person. Stalking behaviors are related to harassment and intimidation and may include following the victim in person or monitoring them. The word stalking is used, with some differing meanings, in psychology and psychiatry and also in some legal jurisdictions as a term for a criminal offense."

LexusLover · 03-13-2015, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtex

"Stalking?"

Link please!

This one. Or do you just like to sniff my ass all the time. Your nose is up it enough!

"Serious" ... It's childish behavior on your part. Or do you prefer "immature"?

Guest040616 · 03-13-2015, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LexusLover

This one. Or do you just like to sniff my ass all the time. Your nose is up it enough!

Nope, I have better things than "stalking" a nursing home pervert to do with my time.

But it is fun to piss you off occasionally.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

LexusLover · 03-13-2015, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtex

But it is fun to piss you off occasionally.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Don't flatter yourself.

It would be sad to see you struggling for relevancy with no substance, if you were worth the time. You aren't.

UnderConstruction · 03-13-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LexusLover

Does Iran have a "nuclear weapon"?

Iran signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty in 1968. It is being reported they are violating the terms of the NPT, and if they develop a nuclear weapon they will be in violation of the NPT.

As a general practice I don't enter into agreements with people who have already violated an existing agreement with me, particularly when they have attempted to conceal their violations.

Oddly enough, your buddy Israel is NOT a signatory to said treaty. So it's ok for them to play this game, but Iran has different rules? I'm just trying to understand the game, since the rules keep changing.

Jackie S · 03-13-2015, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

Oddly enough, your buddy Israel is NOT a signatory to said treaty. So it's ok for them to play this game, but Iran has different rules? I'm just trying to understand the game, since the rules keep changing.

You are damned right there are different rules for Iran.

Israel is a Democracy where people are allowed to live in freedom, pursue happiness, and worship what ever "Diety" they choose.

Iran is a "Thugocracy" ruled by Islamic zealots who are bent on regional, if not world domination by subjecting, and enslaving people in the name of Islam and it's Prophet, Muhammad.

They will use any means at their disposal to accomplish this. That includes compelling their followers to walk into a crowd with an explosive vest and kill as many "infidels" as possible, to leveling Jerusalem with a 20 Kiloton Fission Bomb.

lustylad · 03-13-2015, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

Oddly enough, your buddy Israel is NOT a signatory to said treaty. So it's ok for them to play this game, but Iran has different rules? I'm just trying to understand the game, since the rules keep changing.

You are so clueless. No understanding of history. Look up the NPT, Atoms for Peace. Do you understand that nuclear technology has peaceful and productive applications? Why do you think the NPT was conceived in the first place? Countries signing the NPT gained access to this technology (e.g. they could buy nuclear power plants) in return for agreeing to strict controls and inspections and promising not to divert it for weapons. No NPT, no access. Israel didn't sign the NPT so it was never subject to the treaty's rules. Iran and North Korea both signed it and broke all the rules. They pretended they would play by the rules in order to gain access to technology which they then diverted to weapons programs. The only rules that “keep changing” now are the original non-proliferation rules that Obama is rewriting to make exceptions and allowances for all of Iran's violations.

It's not a "game" undercunt. It's an extremely serious matter.

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JD Barleycorn · 03-13-2015, 12:26 PM

Here is my question for the lefties who seem to want to wait until Iran has a nuclear weapon....what will you do then?

They are already in violation of several treaties and will continue. They've been caught lying and cheating and will continue. They've threatened not just Israel but the Saudis as well and they will continue. Why do you think that they will suddenly relax when they have a nuclear weapon? You know that Neville Chamberlain was dying of stomach cancer when he went to Munich. He was not going to have to face what he did or allowed to happen.

UnderConstruction · 03-13-2015, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackie S

You are damned right there are different rules for Iran.

Israel is a Democracy where people are allowed to live in freedom, pursue happiness, and worship what ever "Diety" they choose.

Iran is a "Thugocracy" ruled by Islamic zealots who are bent on regional, if not world domination by subjecting, and enslaving people in the name of Islam and it's Prophet, Muhammad.

They will use any means at their disposal to accomplish this. That includes compelling their followers to walk into a crowd with an explosive vest and kill as many "infidels" as possible, to leveling Jerusalem with a 20 Kiloton Fission Bomb.

Israel said 20 years ago that Iran would have a bomb. They still don't. Don't you think if they were bent on 'world domination' as you call it, they would hurry up a bit? If you had your way, we would be run by christian zealots. What's the difference? The christian zealots would have more of a direct effect on my daily life.

UnderConstruction · 03-13-2015, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lustylad

You are so clueless. No understanding of history. Look up the NPT, Atoms for Peace. Do you understand that nuclear technology has peaceful and productive applications? Why do you think the NPT was conceived in the first place? Countries signing the NPT gained access to this technology (e.g. they could buy nuclear power plants) in return for agreeing to strict controls and inspections and promising not to divert it for weapons. No NPT, no access. Israel didn't sign the NPT so it was never subject to the treaty's rules. Iran and North Korea both signed it and broke all the rules. They pretended they would play by the rules in order to gain access to technology which they then diverted to weapons programs. The only rules that “keep changing” now are the original non-proliferation rules that Obama is rewriting to make exceptions and allowances for all of Iran's violations.

It's not a "game" undercunt. It's an extremely serious matter.

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Ahh yes, treaties. I remember us signing treaties with the Indians... how did that work out for the indians? I know it's not a game, you goddamn imbecile. Yes, they broke the treaty. Now they are saying they would like to play by the rules. You assume they won't. I say give them enough rope and see what they do with it. You aren't going to stop them completely. Russia is supplying them with nuclear capabilities at the moment and they never miss a chance to piss us off. I'm more worried about Russia than I am Iran. They HAVE nuclear weapons.