SCOTUS Will Overturn Obamacare...Bank On It !!

[JONBALLS]

Originally Posted by Doove

Is the context of my comment lost on you?

actually was just passing through, carry on.........well, the sentance standing on its own has truth that shines through to me now.

[JONBALLS]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Welcome back JONBALLS!!!

It's always been fun watching you rile Doofus.

AwwW , THANKS!! Ill be back later!!

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by waverunner234

Anyone who mentions the "founding fathers" and let himself lead by them and their thinking is completely retarded.

We live in 2011. There was a time wise people believed that the earth was flat. We learnt different didn't we?

Their philosophy may have worked in their time, we have to adapt to what people believe in our time. And obviously that is different and changes over time.

If you cannot adapt to what the current time brings, then you're a loser that's for sure. And about healthcare, that should be nr. 1 on the Governments agenda, way more important then spending for "defense".
What comes first, your neighbor being sick or an enemy attacking America which is very unlikely?

9/11 is caused by America's war hungry position in the world.
Sadly enough there is one one politician that dares to mention it and that's Ron Paul. I wonder if "the founding fathers" would have been so stupid to let it come that far. Anyway they are dead and we have to live without them.

The founding fathers were brilliant men who understood that basic principles don't change over time, because they are grounded in human nature which is a constant. What was true in the days of ancient Greece (the birthplace of western civilization) was true in the days of the founding fathers and is true today.

The wisdom found in the constitution, The Federalist Papers, and in other writings of the founding fathers can serve as a blueprint to insure that America survives, or we can abandon their collective wisdom and continue to practice socialism until we destroy the greatest country in the history of the world; may God forgive us if we do.

[Laz]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

The founding fathers were brilliant men who understood that basic principles don't change over time, because they are grounded in human nature which is a constant. What was true in the days of ancient Greece (the birthplace of western civilization) was true in the days of the founding fathers and is true today.

The wisdom found in the constitution, The Federalist Papers, and in other writings of the founding fathers can serve as a blueprint to insure that America survives, or we can abandon their collective wisdom and continue to practice socialism until we destroy the greatest country in the history of the world; may God forgive us if we do.

The other thing they did was create a process for amending the Constitution. If a national health care system is best, then go through the amendment process to give congress the power to do it.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Laz

The other thing they did was create a process for amending the Constitution. If a national health care system is best, then go through the amendment process to give congress the power to do it.

Liberals would rather pretend the constitution gives the federal government powers it doesn't legitimately have; its much quicker than amending it.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Liberals would rather pretend the constitution gives the federal government powers it doesn't legitimately have; its much quicker than amending it.

It's pretty impressive the number of constitutional scholars in here who are more in-tune with the constitution than the Supreme Court.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Doove

It's pretty impressive the number of constitutional scholars in here who are more in-tune with the constitution than the Supreme Court.

By and large, the Founding Fathers made fewer mistakes than the Supreme Court.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Doove

It's pretty impressive the number of constitutional scholars in here who are more in-tune with the constitution than the Supreme Court.

Four of the nine members of the supreme court would burn the constitution if they could.

Any person with common sense and the ability to read plain English could do a better job of interpreting the constitution than Kagan, Ginsburg, Sotomayor, and Breyer. If Obama can replace one of the sitting conservative justices, he'll be able to rule by decree.

[Iaintliein]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Four of the nine members of the supreme court would burn the constitution if they could.

Any person with common sense and the ability to read plain English could do a better job of interpreting the constitution than Kagan, Ginsburg, Sotomayor, and Breyer. If Obama can replace one of the sitting conservative justices, he'll be able to rule by decree.

The Constitution was deliberately written so that anyone who was considered literate could understand it. But, to twist, distort, and subvert it. . . that requires "scholarship".

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by waverunner234

For one time I agree with you COG.

We will never know and so be it!

I'm sure I'll get through the next one, whether it's Obama, Romney or Gringrich.
Who knows, maybe in 2 years I might live on a Caribbean Island, when the tax burden gets too heavy here.
Aruba sounds nice and is part of the Netherlands and I've heard its always like 80 degrees and sunny.
(girls, rum-drinks, legal pot, beach, sun, surfing, scuba diving --- yeah, life ain't easy))

I love it! You want government to do all these things, and raise taxes, etc. but if it gets too bad, you are leaving the country!

Doove, I think we have found a genuine hypocrite for you.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by Doove

And possibly no 9/11 - which created the knee-jerk reaction leading to a whole new government agency.

Hmmm . . . So you are a 911 Truther, eh, Doove? 911 was a false flag dreamed up by Bush and Cheney in order to enrich themselves and enslave the nation?

Actually makes more sense than most of the drivel you post on here.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by Doove

It's pretty impressive the number of constitutional scholars in here who are more in-tune with the constitution than the Supreme Court.

No one is nominated to the Supreme Court on the basis of their scholarship or intelligence. They are nominated because the President wants them to vote a certain way. Lawrence Tribe should have been on the Court years ago, and is one of the greatest Constitutional scholars alive today. Even though he is a liberal, I would have appointed him. Robert Bork as well. He was hugely slandered to keep him off the Court. And the Republicans have made sure that Tribe will never get there. It would be great to see those two minds grappling with the issues today, but it won't happen, because they are smart enough to think independently, and might not be a reliable vote.

Instead we get these clowns who have no business on the Court, like Thomas, Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsburg etc. because they have a particular slant. None of them had a body of work to examine, so they were told how to vote before they were nominated.

Don't think the Court is a bastion of legal intelligence. It is now just as political as the other branches of government.

[rockbass]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Four of the nine members of the supreme court would burn the constitution if they could.

Any person with common sense and the ability to read plain English could do a better job of interpreting the constitution than Kagan, Ginsburg, Sotomayor, and Breyer. If Obama can replace one of the sitting conservative justices, he'll be able to rule by decree.

one can only hope

instead of turning the country over to the corporations, the way Bush and his appointees have done

[Doove]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Actually makes more sense than most of the drivel you post on here.

[waverunner234]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I love it! You want government to do all these things, and raise taxes, etc. but if it gets too bad, you are leaving the country!

Doove, I think we have found a genuine hypocrite for you.

Never said raise taxes. It's even worse, my tax burden is never as bad as for some others. You should know that. I can file Form 6781, sec 1256 contracts and straddles. 60% of profit is taxed as long term capital gain. Even while no trade lasts longer than a few days.

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