This seems fair....

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

if the core is the majority, as you agree, then even if the entire left leaning young democrats turn out it won't be enough.

and did you really say Bernie and Warren are "visionaries"?

visionaries of what??


BAHHAHAHAAAAA

A better direction for the country.




Not down the drain.

Originally Posted by WTF

They may choose to have a trial but I doubt it.

Remember...Mitch held up a SC nominee and lowered the vote count to get another pushed through.

Mitch has Trump by the balls though if the House impeaches like they probably will. What the GOP could do is actually convict Trump and then run Pence....who probably would stand a better chance of getting elected than Trump.

Our right wing nuts would be going bat shit crazy!

First, I recall it was a majority vote as apposed to a two-thirds vote? Just change the rules. Or move the goal post? Am I correct?

Second, who has who by the balls? The NRA just bowed to the POTUS. And Mitch has a number of bills on his desk. Does Mitch have the power to bring the prez to his knees? Or vice versa? In your humble opinion of course.

Or . . . am I just reading the tea leaves all wrong?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by WTF

They may choose to have a trial but I doubt it.

Remember...Mitch held up a SC nominee and lowered the vote count to get another pushed through.

Mitch has Trump by the balls though if the House impeaches like they probably will. What the GOP could do is actually convict Trump and then run Pence....who probably would stand a better chance of getting elected than Trump.

Our right wing nuts would be going bat shit crazy!

actually convict Trump? of what?? the GOP will not impeach .. there is no convict here .. over politically motivated charges. i think the Democrats are going to have a tough time getting the full support in Congress to vote for impeachment given the nature of this so-called whistle blower complaint. the info was illegally obtained. the intel community has no legal authority to the conversations of the president with foreign leaders. this was a misuse of the whistle blower protections which is why the DNI initially did not turn it over to Congress.

now that it has been released, by Trump, it shows no such abuse of power, no bribes, no quid pro quo and nothing at all impeachable.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

A better direction for Venezuela

ftfy

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

ftfy

Funny. Very funny.

[dilbert firestorm]

as waco says... where's the QUID????

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

the intel community has no legal authority to the conversations of the president with foreign leaders.

Then what good is the Intelligence Community good for if it can't make reasonable decisions on those conversations?






















Are you just posting from your "Fox" hole?

Or can you cite an oponion or factual piece?

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

as waco says... where's the QUID????

The quid is the POTUS who benefits from the "dirt" by getting reelected over a moderate Democratic.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by WTF

Oh he can and will....he will not be convicted in the Senate.

It will have to be an elaborate scheme. The Dems are pretty good at stuff like that. We'll see just how good.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Funny. Very funny.

what's funny is what happens to idealistic young liberals. as they get older, they establish careers, buy homes and start families. then a funny thing happens .. they become more conservative


they realize all that tax and spend crap takes money away from them that they need to have a good lifestyle, save for retirement and even put their kids into college. now isn't that funny??

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Then what good is the Intelligence Community good for if it can't make reasonable decisions on those conversations?


Are you just posting from your "Fox" hole?

Or can you cite an oponion or factual piece?

article II. good enough for ya? the president by his article II powers conducts foreign policy. the intel community does not. Congress doesn't either unless a formal treaty needs to be ratified. the intel community is supposed to spy on foreign nations and leaders to provide intel to the president, not spy on the president.


yeah .. it really is that simple.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

what's funny is what happens to idealistic young liberals. as they get older, they establish careers, buy homes and start families. then a funny thing happens .. they become more conservative


they realize all that tax and spend crap takes money away from them that they need to have a good lifestyle, save for retirement and even put their kids into college. now isn't that funny??

It's funny that you live in your conservative bubble. You think all liberals establish careers, buy homes, and start families? What nineteen-fifties world do you think this country is still living in? You assume too much. They stay liberal.

You think you know what it means to have a good lifestyle? Save for retirement? Have kids? Stop kidding yourself. It's not working on me. Or any other enlightened person who accepts where this country is headed.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

article II. good enough for ya? the president by his article II powers conducts foreign policy. the intel community does not. Congress doesn't either unless a formal treaty needs to be ratified. the intel community is supposed to spy on foreign nations and leaders to provide intel to the president, not spy on the president.



yeah .. it really is that simple.

Then we have a point of contention. How is the Intelligence Community supposed to act in good faith if it's at the whim of a mad man who doesn't know what the fuck he is doing? Much more, breaking the law?

Goes to the whistleblower. You voted for an idiot who doesn't know his limits when dealing with foreign leaders. Then the intelligence representative has to step in. Because the POTUS has none.

I agree the POTUS leads the U.S. in conducting policy. How is that policy to be carried out if it's held from those who are to act upon it? We have ambassadors who have to change their position in mid meeting because the POTUS just got slapped in the face by a powerful lobbyist. The channel has to be direct and clear.

[themystic]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

what's funny is what happens to idealistic young liberals. as they get older, they establish careers, buy homes and start families. then a funny thing happens .. they become more conservative


they realize all that tax and spend crap takes money away from them that they need to have a good lifestyle, save for retirement and even put their kids into college. now isn't that funny??

Because you are a 5 Star General in the Trump Troll Army, your opinion is worthy of consideration

What does any of that have to do with Trump asking a foreign government to investigate his political rival?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

It's funny that you live in your conservative bubble. You think all liberals establish careers, buy homes, and start families? What nineteen-fifties world do you think this country is still living in. You assume too much. They stay liberal.

You think you know what it means to have a good lifestyle? Save for retirement? Have kids? Stop kidding yourself. It's not working on me. Or any other enlightened person who accepts where this country is headed.

this isn't the 1960's either hippie boy.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

It's funny that you live in your conservative bubble. You think all liberals establish careers, buy homes, and start families? What nineteen-fifties world do you think this country is still living in? You assume too much. They stay liberal.

You think you know what it means to have a good lifestyle? Save for retirement? Have kids? Stop kidding yourself. It's not working on me. Or any other enlightened person who accepts where this country is headed.

Oh Please enlighten us all. wheres the Country headed?