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Old 11-04-2012, 03:32 PM   #76
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ok fine .. then feel free to debunk the fact the pentagon scrambled 2 special ops teams (1 from europe, 1 from the us) to italy before Fox started their stand down story..

the world awaits

fyi before you cut and run, the first attack started at 9;40 the order to send in special ops was given in less that 3 hours later.

ready set GO!
These forces were not deployed ("send in") to Benghazi on the night of the attacks as you have just stated. They were sent to a staging area in Italy, to await further orders. So why weren't they deployed to Benghazi on the night of the attacks? Yes, they probably would have got there too late to save the brave Americans there. But we will never know for sure because they were never actually deployed. At the very least, they could have secured our consulate there and preserved any evidence that was still there. And if the attackers were still there, they could have delivered some payback. The special ops teams are on the ground now in Libya but why not deploy them ASAP on the night of the attack?

Why was the security team under LTC Woods pulled from Libya in May of this year? And why was additional security not added to Libya when Ambassador Stevens requested it? And he requested it more than once. Why didn't the Africa Command have a special ops force assigned to. It is my understanding that all of the other area commands have one assigned to it? And why did the Obama administration tell us that this attack was a "spontaneous reaction" to a silly little video that very few people even saw? And they were still spewing this load of crap weeks after the attack?

And you never answered my question. Do you think the brave men on the ground in Benghazi who said they were told to stand down several times are lying?
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:37 PM   #77
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You are still purposefully and ignorantly ignoring the fact that the Odumbo administration reduced security in the face of increasing hostility and violence (two bombs).


+1 Odumbo, et al, reduced security in the face of increasing hostility and violence (two bombs), and then afterwards they lied about what happened on 9/11 2012.
I was referring too it being a poor job of situational awareness before hand. Then this political he said she said after is just total bullshit. Anyone who actually thinks that CNN or Fox has anything close to the whole truth on this needs to have their head examined. This whole thing is a ridiculous debate.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:38 PM   #78
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None of this addresses the main point, which is why Obama lied about the attack for two weeks, instead of telling the truth from the start?

And yes, I'll take the word of the men on the ground in real time over a month long fabricated story by the Administration.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:44 PM   #79
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These forces were not deployed ("send in") to Benghazi on the night of the attacks as you have just stated. They were sent to a staging area in Italy, to await further orders. So why weren't they deployed to Benghazi on the night of the attacks? Yes, they probably would have got there too late to save the brave Americans there. But we will never know for sure because they were never actually deployed. At the very least, they could have secured our consulate there and preserved any evidence that was still there. And if the attackers were still there, they could have delivered some payback. The special ops teams are on the ground now in Libya but why not deploy them ASAP on the night of the attack?

Why was the security team under LTC Woods pulled from Libya in May of this year? And why was additional security not added to Libya when Ambassador Stevens requested it? And he requested it more than once. Why didn't the Africa Command have a special ops force assigned to. It is my understanding that all of the other area commands have one assigned to it? And why did the Obama administration tell us that this attack was a "spontaneous reaction" to a silly little video that very few people even saw? And they were still spewing this load of crap weeks after the attack?

And you never answered my question. Do you think the brave men on the ground in Benghazi who said they were told to stand down several times are lying?
1. Sadly we won't ever know the full truth
2. You truly think the head honchos know what's going on. They rely on the minions under them to give them the story. The minions rely on their sources to fill in the picture. Often the first version of what you hear ain't going to be the complete picture or the full truth.
3. Fog and friction of war. It's not important that they were told to stand down, what is important is who, if anyone told them to stand down. I guaran-fucking-tee you that if they were told to stand down that the directive came from the CIA.

Yeah - this is pretty fucking silly.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:47 PM   #80
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I was referring too it being a poor job of situational awareness before hand. Then this political he said she said after is just total bullshit. Anyone who actually thinks that CNN or Fox has anything close to the whole truth on this needs to have their head examined. This whole thing is a ridiculous debate.
The Obama administration is stonewalling on Benghazi until after the election. That's why the whole truth hasn't come out. It's deja vu all over again. The Watergate break-in happened right before 1972 election, which Nixon won. It was Nixon's participation in the coverup that cost him the presidency.

If, God forbid, Obama wins, Benghazigate may be his downfall.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:50 PM   #81
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Really --- Watergate and Benghazi are the same? You guys need to put the tin foil hats away . Interesting, no one offers a response to my previous posts ...

That's right because I'll nail you to the fucking cross!
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:54 PM   #82
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You're right. Benghazi is far worse than Watergate.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:58 PM   #83
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I was referring too it being a poor job of situational awareness before hand. Then this political he said she said after is just total bullshit. Anyone who actually thinks that CNN or Fox has anything close to the whole truth on this needs to have their head examined. This whole thing is a ridiculous debate.
So you're drinking the Kool Aid and are completely on board with Odumbo, et al, claiming the 9/11 attack was prompted by a BS video segment that had been posted on the internet since July? The ridiculous part of the story is that anyone with an iota of intelligence bought that story. The attacks on 9/11 2012 were the product of agitators -- not a video -- choosing to promote riots on that infamous date! For Odumbo, et al, to reduce security in advance of that date -- particularly after sustaining two bombings -- was an act of criminal negligence. The bullshit story Odumbo, et al, offered afterwards as an explanation was a wholesale lie.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:00 PM   #84
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Really --- Watergate and Benghazi are the same? You guys need to put the tin foil hats away . Interesting, no one offers a response to my previous posts ...

That's right because I'll nail you to the fucking cross!
Yo mama!
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:13 PM   #85
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Interesting, no one offers a response to my previous posts ...

That's right because I'll nail you to the fucking cross!
Actually, it's because you are proffering the same bullshit tripe that's been on MSNBC, and it's still bullshit tripe no matter who serves it.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:42 PM   #86
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Really --- Watergate and Benghazi are the same? You guys need to put the tin foil hats away . Interesting, no one offers a response to my previous posts ...

That's right because I'll nail you to the fucking cross!
No, that's not it. It's just that we already filled our quota of Obamazombie idiots here. Maybe if one or two drop off, we'll be able to get to you. Right now, you'll have to wait in line.

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Actually I think Joe Blow has the best response thus far (+5000 pts). CuteOld offers a close 2nd without being too denigrating <kudos>. I just wanted to see how some of you would respond and it's pretty fucking hollow.

I'd be interested to see how many of you have served in a capacity to understand how Military Ops or the Federal Gov't works. From the comments posted I'm thinking very few. So FWIW, you really should just go and get that bag of Pop Secret, sit back and enjoy the show.

Amazing how many folks are Monday morning quarterbacking without truly understanding WTF they are really talking about.

Btw, I don't pay much attention to US News shows (MSNBC, Fox, etc) - they are full of talking heads. If I want to know what's really happening in the world, I check out foreign newscasts: BBC, Al-Jazeera, etc., and even then it can be a crapshoot. .
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So you're drinking the Kool Aid and are completely on board with Odumbo, et al, claiming the 9/11 attack was prompted by a BS video segment that had been posted on the internet since July? The ridiculous part of the story is that anyone with an iota of intelligence bought that story. The attacks on 9/11 2012 were the product of agitators -- not a video -- choosing to promote riots on that infamous date! For Odumbo, et al, to reduce security in advance of that date -- particularly after sustaining two bombings -- was an act of criminal negligence. The bullshit story Odumbo, et al, offered afterwards as an explanation was a wholesale lie.
Btw, watch the debates much --- within 24 hours of the attack the Obama Administration acknowledged it was a terrorist attack. Next point ...
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Old 11-04-2012, 05:05 PM   #89
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.. I quit posting reviews when the reviews bacame chest pounding contests between the self proclaimed He-studs vowing for some award like board acceptence ..
Chest pounding? I've got fewer reviews than you, you lazy wanker.

Believing Fox is like believing a stripper who says 'I'm not a hoe like that nasty bitch you were talking to, I really like you'.
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Old 11-04-2012, 05:09 PM   #90
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Actually I think Joe Blow has the best response thus far (+5000 pts). CuteOld offers a close 2nd without being too denigrating <kudos>. I just wanted to see how some of you would respond and it's pretty fucking hollow.

I'd be interested to see how many of you have served in a capacity to understand how Military Ops or the Federal Gov't works. From the comments posted I'm thinking very few. So FWIW, you really should just go and get that bag of Pop Secret, sit back and enjoy the show.

Amazing how many folks are Monday morning quarterbacking without truly understanding WTF they are really talking about.

Btw, I don't pay much attention to US News shows (MSNBC, Fox, etc) - they are full of talking heads. If I want to know what's really happening in the world, I check out foreign newscasts: BBC, Al-Jazeera, etc., and even then it can be a crapshoot. .
Here, check this one out. It should be right up your alley. They have regular articles debunking the "holocaust myth."

http://www.tehrantimes.com/
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