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03-10-2015, 04:56 PM
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If you are saying race played no part in it, you're as ignorant as you are ugly. Get real. The FPD has a problem that needs to be corrected. I wouldn't expect someone with a pointy hat in their closet to get it.
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Ignorant and ugly. Really? get back to me when you get out of high school. This is supposed to be an adult board. Maybe they need to have age verification.
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03-10-2015, 06:41 PM
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ran Responds to GOP Letter
March 9, 2015 | 2:52pm
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On Mach 9, Iran’s U.N. mission circulated the following press release detailing Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif’s reaction to the GOP letter on a nuclear deal.
Asked about the open letter of 47 US Senators to Iranian leaders, the Iranian Foreign Minister, Dr. Javad Zarif, responded that “in our view, this letter has no legal value and is mostly a propaganda ploy. It is very interesting that while negotiations are still in progress and while no agreement has been reached, some political pressure groups are so afraid even of the prospect of an agreement that they resort to unconventional methods, unprecedented in diplomatic history. This indicates that like Netanyahu, who considers peace as an existential threat, some are opposed to any agreement, regardless of its content.”
Zarif expressed astonishment that some members of US Congress find it appropriate to write to leaders of another country against their own President and administration. He pointed out that from reading the open letter, it seems that the authors not only do not understand international law, but are not fully cognizant of the nuances of their own Constitution when it comes to presidential powers in the conduct of foreign policy.
Foreign Minister Zarif added that “I should bring one important point to the attention of the authors and that is, the world is not the United States, and the conduct of inter-state relations is governed by international law, and not by US domestic law. The authors may not fully understand that in international law, governments represent the entirety of their respective states, are responsible for the conduct of foreign affairs, are required to fulfil the obligations they undertake with other states and may not invoke their internal law as justification for failure to perform their international obligations.”
The Iranian Foreign Minister added that “change of administration does not in any way relieve the next administration from international obligations undertaken by its predecessor in a possible agreement about Iran’s peaceful nuclear program.” He continued “I wish to enlighten the authors that if the next administration revokes any agreement with ‘the stroke of a pen,’ as they boast, it will have simply committed a blatant violation of international law.” He emphasized that if the current negotiation with P5+1 [Britain, China, France, Germany Russia and the United States] result in a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, it will not be a bilateral agreement between Iran and the US, but rather one that will be concluded with the participation of five other countries, including all permanent members of the Security Council, and will also be endorsed by a Security Council resolution.
Zarif expressed the hope that his comments “may enrich the knowledge of the authors to recognize that according to international law, Congress may not ‘modify the terms of the agreement at any time’ as they claim, and if Congressadopts any measure to impede its implementation, it will have committed a material breach of US obligations.”
The Foreign Minister also informed the authors that majority of US international agreements in recent decades are in fact what the signatories describe as “mere executive agreements” and not treaties ratified by the Senate. He reminded them that “their letter in fact undermines the credibility of thousands of such ‘mere executive agreements’ that have been or will be entered into by the US with various other governments.”
Zarif concluded by stating that “the Islamic Republic of Iran has entered these negotiations in good faith and with the political will to reach an agreement, and it is imperative for our counterparts to prove similar good faith and political will in order to make an agreement possible.”
Mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to UN - New York
Other remarks
“This kind of letter is unprecedented and undiplomatic. In truth, it told us that we cannot trust the United States.
“Negotiations with the United States are facing problems due to the presence of extremists in Congress."
—March 10, 2015 in a meeting with top clerics
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03-10-2015, 06:42 PM
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Ignorant and ugly. Really? get back to me when you get out of high school. This is supposed to be an adult board. Maybe they need to have age verification.
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Your avatar looks like a golem fucktard, my apologies. You didn't do much better and you didn't address my point.
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03-10-2015, 06:49 PM
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Your avatar looks like a golem fucktard, my apologies. You didn't do much better and you didn't address my point.
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What point was that?
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03-10-2015, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wellendowed1911
ran Responds to GOP Letter
March 9, 2015 | 2:52pm
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On Mach 9, Iran’s U.N. mission circulated the following press release detailing Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif’s reaction to the GOP letter on a nuclear deal.
Asked about the open letter of 47 US Senators to Iranian leaders, the Iranian Foreign Minister, Dr. Javad Zarif, responded that “in our view, this letter has no legal value and is mostly a propaganda ploy. It is very interesting that while negotiations are still in progress and while no agreement has been reached, some political pressure groups are so afraid even of the prospect of an agreement that they resort to unconventional methods, unprecedented in diplomatic history. This indicates that like Netanyahu, who considers peace as an existential threat, some are opposed to any agreement, regardless of its content.”
Zarif expressed astonishment that some members of US Congress find it appropriate to write to leaders of another country against their own President and administration. He pointed out that from reading the open letter, it seems that the authors not only do not understand international law, but are not fully cognizant of the nuances of their own Constitution when it comes to presidential powers in the conduct of foreign policy.
Foreign Minister Zarif added that “I should bring one important point to the attention of the authors and that is, the world is not the United States, and the conduct of inter-state relations is governed by international law, and not by US domestic law. The authors may not fully understand that in international law, governments represent the entirety of their respective states, are responsible for the conduct of foreign affairs, are required to fulfil the obligations they undertake with other states and may not invoke their internal law as justification for failure to perform their international obligations.”
The Iranian Foreign Minister added that “change of administration does not in any way relieve the next administration from international obligations undertaken by its predecessor in a possible agreement about Iran’s peaceful nuclear program.” He continued “I wish to enlighten the authors that if the next administration revokes any agreement with ‘the stroke of a pen,’ as they boast, it will have simply committed a blatant violation of international law.” He emphasized that if the current negotiation with P5+1 [Britain, China, France, Germany Russia and the United States] result in a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, it will not be a bilateral agreement between Iran and the US, but rather one that will be concluded with the participation of five other countries, including all permanent members of the Security Council, and will also be endorsed by a Security Council resolution.
Zarif expressed the hope that his comments “may enrich the knowledge of the authors to recognize that according to international law, Congress may not ‘modify the terms of the agreement at any time’ as they claim, and if Congressadopts any measure to impede its implementation, it will have committed a material breach of US obligations.”
The Foreign Minister also informed the authors that majority of US international agreements in recent decades are in fact what the signatories describe as “mere executive agreements” and not treaties ratified by the Senate. He reminded them that “their letter in fact undermines the credibility of thousands of such ‘mere executive agreements’ that have been or will be entered into by the US with various other governments.”
Zarif concluded by stating that “the Islamic Republic of Iran has entered these negotiations in good faith and with the political will to reach an agreement, and it is imperative for our counterparts to prove similar good faith and political will in order to make an agreement possible.”
Mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to UN - New York
Other remarks
“This kind of letter is unprecedented and undiplomatic. In truth, it told us that we cannot trust the United States.
“Negotiations with the United States are facing problems due to the presence of extremists in Congress."
—March 10, 2015 in a meeting with top clerics
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GET A CLUE!... We don't give a shit what a Oiranian thinks
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03-10-2015, 10:24 PM
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There is Logical explanation for what the senate republican traitors have done. Fighting against peace, promoting the escalation of nuclear development, undermining sensitive negotiations between nations and deliberately undermining the diplomatic efforts of our government.
These fucking assholes are determined to bring down the U.S. government regardless of how much harm they inflict on the American people, not to mention the rest of the world.
No matter how you odeflect and caterwaul, this is intolerable, inexcusable traitorous behavior. If the shoe were in the other foot, you'd all be squealing like stuck pigs. IN ALL CAPS !!!!!
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03-10-2015, 10:37 PM
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03-10-2015, 10:37 PM
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I hope the Iranians are up to date on the political environment of the U.S. Hillary Clinton is going to win the presidecy and will uphold whatever treaty Obama comes up with currently. Then we'll see what happens 8 years after that.
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03-11-2015, 05:53 AM
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Tom Cotton is standing up against the Mullahs unlike Speaker Nancy Pelosi who went to Syria (in 2007) and met with Assad, against the Bush administrations wishes.
Pelosi said of her Assad meeting I “expressed our interest in using our good offices in promoting peace between Israel and Syria.”
That's what treanous is.
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03-11-2015, 05:58 AM
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If one can't win a majority in Congress, just convert the country to a dictatorship.
And then let the enemy tell us how to run our country. Hitler's wet dream.
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03-11-2015, 06:45 AM
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The GOP has been engaging in (borderline) treason since 2008. The fact that we have a (half) black president plays on their insecurities so much that they'll chastise anything he does or says, without cause.
Still waiting for the day when one of them steps out calls Obama a Ni**er.
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He is also Americas first half-white full fucking commie president. That ought to really set out those zaney republicans on a tear ! LMAO
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03-11-2015, 07:39 AM
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BO unilaterally is about ready to give the store away to the Iranians with one of the most important treaties of a life time and and he has to do an end run around congress because it's a bad deal.. We've all seen what a shitty negotiator he is with the bergdahl deal..
Treason??? Once again our Liberal friends show their problem with enemy indentification. They'd rather call people names because of their lack of backbone.
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03-11-2015, 07:46 AM
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03-11-2015, 07:50 AM
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Jim Wright, the Democratic House speaker during Ronald Reagan's presidency, was accused of interfering when he met with opposing leaders in Nicaragua's contra war. Three House Democrats went to Iraq in 2002 before President George W. Bush's invasion to try to head off war. And Nancy Pelosi, the House Democratic leader, went to Syria in 2007 to meet with President Bashar al-Assad against the wishes of the Bush administration, which was trying to isolate him. The Democrats are the biggest hypocrites and lying pieces of trash on the planet!
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03-11-2015, 08:22 AM
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BO unilaterally is about ready to give the store away to the Iranians with one of the most important treaties of a life time and and he has to do an end run around congress because it's a bad deal.. We've all seen what a shitty negotiator he is with the bergdahl deal..
Treason??? Once again our Liberal friends show their problem with enemy indentification. They'd rather call people names because of their lack of backbone.
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It's not unilateral you fucktard. I know fox never mentions it but the UK, France, China, Germany and Russia are involved in the talks. It's also not a treaty. It's an international arrangement that would be signed by the aforementioned countries as well as Iran. What I find deliciously ironic is these 47 no doubt worship Reagan and they are accusing Obama of appeasing Iran. At least he isn't trying to sell them weapons...
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