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Old 02-16-2022, 09:13 PM   #76
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So you agree no law was broken. Thanks. Thought so.

if you say so
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Old 02-16-2022, 09:42 PM   #77
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Thanks again for being so agreeable. Amazing turn of events.
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Old 02-17-2022, 07:01 AM   #78
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Old 02-17-2022, 08:57 AM   #79
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There are a lot of laws out there. Gotta be pin point specific or you are full of shit.

I guess you don't remember the discussion of this topic during Trump's impeachments. A "Misdemeanor' ( High crimes and Misdemeanors ) is anything the House of Representatives, says it is. No crime has to be proven in a court of law for the House to move for impeachment. That is what Democrats said then. Was Trump ever found guilty in a court of law for a "criminal offense"? He was not. He was accused of witholding funds that were supposed to go to Ukraine, which he later released but that was an opinion not a conviction.



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Can a government official be impeached and convicted for innocent mistakes, or must they have bad intentions? Is it sufficient to justify an impeachment and conviction if a government official commits acts that are “disgraceful,” contrary to the “trust and duty” of their office, or “degrading to the honor of the United States,” or can impeachment only be justified when an official has committed criminal acts? Do “high crimes” include only criminal offenses for which one could be prosecuted in a court of law, or can they include other forms of misconduct? Are some violations of the law too trivial to be considered “high crimes” that would justify an impeachment? Can private misdeeds justify an impeachment, or must the actions in question be connected to the conduct of the office that an individual holds?
While still serving as a member of the House of Representatives, Gerald Ford once said that impeachable offenses are whatever a majority of the House considered them to be. The burden is on those who want to bring impeachment charges to persuade a majority of the members of the House of Representatives and two-thirds of the members of the Senate that an act is so serious as to justify removing an individual from office.
Joe Biden could be accused of corruption with just the evidence that now exist, testimony and documents that say Joe Biden knew what Hunter was doing and benefited from those deals. Do they have to prove that in a court of law before impeachment? No, they do not, they merely have to convince a majority of the House that he did in fact lie to the American people and benefited from those lies. Think there will be 51 House Republicans mad enough to impeach Joe Biden? I wouldn't bet against it.


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Nowadays, a lot of very, very smart historians and law professors will gladly share interesting facts and ideas about how the phrase “treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors” got into the Constitution and what they meant to wig-wearers who proposed or ratified that language.
But, in a practical sense, Ford nailed it.
If anyone can get a majority of the U.S. House and two-thirds of the Senate to vote aye on articles of impeachment of any “civil officers of the United States,” up to and specifically including the president, that person is no longer president, even if said impeachee still wants to argue that he or she hasn’t committed any crimes or misdemeanors. But if no one can get those votes, no impeachment occurs, no matter how skillfully the crime/misdemeanor argument is pressed.
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Old 02-17-2022, 08:57 AM   #80
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Old 02-17-2022, 07:52 PM   #81
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...proval-rating/

Never been below 40%. Approval ratings are stupid anyway. The vote split between Dems and Repugnants is about 50/50 so already you lose 50% that would probably disapprove no matter what.

Some polls are stupid and misleading due to how they word a poll question.

Trump left office disgraced at 38%...
Harry Truman left office disgraced but is now one of our five best presidents. I predict the same for Trump.
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Old 02-17-2022, 07:55 PM   #82
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Specifically what law is broken?
For starters accepting a bribe, soliciting a bribe, sedition (what did Joe know about what Hillary was doing in 2016), and as far as impeachment, the Constitution was not clear other than "high crimes and misdemeanors".
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Old 02-17-2022, 10:35 PM   #83
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An investment is not a bribe.
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Old 02-17-2022, 10:53 PM   #84
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An investment is not a bribe.

it is if it's given in exchange for a quid pro quo. unless you think Hunter Biden was actually qualified in these ventures, the ones where he had no actual experience in.

you do know .. don't ya .. that just 2 weeks after Hunter flew to China on Air Force 2 with daddy he got the China investment?

nothing to see here.


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