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Old 06-08-2020, 07:33 AM   #61
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Trump is not ahead in Florida, NC or AZ. Here are Real Clear Politics averages of the last few polls, followed by result of the most recent poll, for those and some other battleground states.

Florida: Biden +3.4% / Biden +3%
North Carolina: Trump +0.3% / Biden +4%
Arizona: Biden +3.4% / Biden +4%
Ohio: Biden +1% / Biden +2%
Pennsylvania: Biden +3.3%/Trump +4%
Wisconsin: Biden +3.4% / Biden +9%
Michigan: Biden +7.3% / Biden +12%

The bettors on Predictit.org who are wagering money on this are now giving the electoral college to Biden, 334 to 204, based on a state-by-state count. If your $0.55 bet for Biden pays off you get back $1.00 if he wins. If you bet $0.46 on Trump you get $1.00.

I don't think it's going to be close. Unfortunately I think it's going to be a blowout. The reason I say "unfortunately" is because a blowout would mean the Democrats would also win the Senate.

Biden is a good man. In terms of personal character he's head and shoulders above Trump. However, he has moved far to the left over the last year, and is working hand-in-hand with the Sanders wing in his party. Schumer appears to indicate he's going to end the filibuster if he takes power. The Democrats will hold onto the House. The country may be about to go farther left than it's been in many years. I believe this will have negative repercussions for the economy in general, and for the energy industry specifically, which is a big part of the economy here in Texas.
Interesting post. I'm not sure how far left the country will move if Biden is elected. I don't know how much influence Sanders will really have. I do agree that right now, with less than 5 months to go to election day, Biden is leading the race. But so was Clinton in 2016 so I take the very positive news with that in mind. 538 has Trump approval rating currently at 41.2%, -13.2%. Biden is up 14% in the latest poll by CNN/SSRS. Trump is very aware of these polls and it will be interesting to see what he comes up with to turn the tide. The problem as I see it is he focuses too much on pleasing his base and is not focused on those undecided voters.
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Old 06-08-2020, 07:35 AM   #62
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... does it matter? It appears only to you.
Please. You are embarrassing yourself.

Try discussing politics on a political forum rather than try to belittle others.
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Old 06-08-2020, 09:12 AM   #63
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Please. You are embarrassing yourself.

Try discussing politics on a political forum rather than try to belittle others.
This forum is fine. I can entertain myself watching you flail.

You "discuss" politics. I've been involved in it. Sorry, junior!
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Old 06-08-2020, 09:14 AM   #64
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Trump is very aware of these polls ....
Trump is aware of the ground. Trump Junior takes care of that.
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Old 06-08-2020, 10:29 AM   #65
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This forum is fine. I can entertain myself watching you flail.

You "discuss" politics. I've been involved in it. Sorry, junior!
Proof?

You have shown little political expertise above that of most others on this forum. Some like eccielover and Tiny are far superior to you in discussing points of view and accepting opinions that happen to differ from your own.
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Old 06-08-2020, 11:33 AM   #66
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Proof?
You mean you don't know all about me? And all this time I figured HoeHummer would have filed you in!

Plus aren't you the LOON who threatened to kick my ass all the way back from Austin to Houston?

Here's my response: "POOF"!

BTW: Your lame ass attempt at an insult is totally irrelevant to running a political campaign.

You keep showing your ass with your ignorance.
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Old 06-08-2020, 06:23 PM   #67
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You mean you don't know all about me? And all this time I figured HoeHummer would have filed you in!

Plus aren't you the LOON who threatened to kick my ass all the way back from Austin to Houston?

Here's my response: "POOF"!

BTW: Your lame ass attempt at an insult is totally irrelevant to running a political campaign.

You keep showing your ass with your ignorance.
As usual your post has nothing of value in it.

Let's make a deal. Since you have zero respect for me or my posts and I have zero respect for you or your posts, let's put each other on "Ignore" or at least ignore each other's posts.
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Old 06-09-2020, 01:30 AM   #68
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Trump is not ahead in Florida, NC or AZ. Here are Real Clear Politics averages of the last few polls, followed by result of the most recent poll, for those and some other battleground states.

Florida: Biden +3.4% / Biden +3%
North Carolina: Trump +0.3% / Biden +4%
Arizona: Biden +3.4% / Biden +4%
Ohio: Biden +1% / Biden +2%
Pennsylvania: Biden +3.3%/Trump +4%
Wisconsin: Biden +3.4% / Biden +9%
Michigan: Biden +7.3% / Biden +12%

The bettors on Predictit.org who are wagering money on this are now giving the electoral college to Biden, 334 to 204, based on a state-by-state count. If your $0.55 bet for Biden pays off you get back $1.00 if he wins. If you bet $0.46 on Trump you get $1.00.

I don't think it's going to be close. Unfortunately I think it's going to be a blowout. The reason I say "unfortunately" is because a blowout would mean the Democrats would also win the Senate.

Biden is a good man. In terms of personal character he's head and shoulders above Trump. However, he has moved far to the left over the last year, and is working hand-in-hand with the Sanders wing in his party. Schumer appears to indicate he's going to end the filibuster if he takes power. The Democrats will hold onto the House. The country may be about to go farther left than it's been in many years. I believe this will have negative repercussions for the economy in general, and for the energy industry specifically, which is a big part of the economy here in Texas.
+1

Good post Tiny. I don't see Trump making up 12 points in Michigan
or 9 points in Wisc. Biden only needs to flip 3 battleground states. I agree with you. It won't be close. Trump is going to be a one term president.
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Old 06-09-2020, 06:29 AM   #69
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Good post Tiny. I don't see Trump making up 12 points in Michigan
or 9 points in Wisc. Biden only needs to flip 3 battleground states. I agree with you. It won't be close. Trump is going to be a one term president.
BEWARE! Those were single polls at a given point in time with a margin of error in the 3-4% range. And a lot depends on whether the polls were done with ALL voters, REGISTERED voters, or LIKELY voters.
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BEWARE! Those were single polls at a given point in time with a margin of error in the 3-4% range. And a lot depends on whether the polls were done with ALL voters, REGISTERED voters, or LIKELY voters.
Yes, he did at least provide the RCP averages as well.

But if you want to be comparative, I looked back to 2016 Michigan RCP at least and while they didn't give the numbers before 7/7, Clinton was leading in Michigan by polls in the 5-8 point average range with outliers in both directions through most of July/August 2016.

Certainly wasn't predictive then anymore than I would use it in predicting the election today.
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Please. You are embarrassing yourself.

Try discussing politics on a political forum rather than try to belittle others.
Nope. That definitely won't be happening. I don't even remember what I said to set off LL with his weird ass. He becomes obsessed rather easily. I hope it was good though because I don't give a shit because I think he is a joke and as long as he keeps posting right under me, I'm good because it's fucking funny to me.

Edit: LL is right on time and as predictable as usual below. I don't even know what he even posted, but I call him a joke for a reason. LOL
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Old 06-09-2020, 07:39 AM   #72
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[QUOTE=eccielover;1062083518]Yes, he did at least provide the RCP averages as well.

But if you want to be comparative, I looked back to 2016 Michigan RCP at least and while they didn't give the numbers before 7/7, Clinton was leading in Michigan by polls in the 5-8 point average range with outliers in both directions through most of July/August 2016.

Certainly wasn't predictive then anymore than I would use it in predicting the election today.

I predicted a long time ago that the Democratic nominee would win Michigan in 2020. Why?

1. Trump won Michigan by .2% of the vote.
2. Since Trump took office, his approval rating has dropped 18 points in Michigan.
3. The 2018 midterms saw the Michigan incumbent Democratic Governor and Senator score easy victories.
4. Democratic Senator Peters seems headed to a rather easy victory in 2020.
5. Gov. Whitmer's approval rating is well above 60%.

I'm sure that the frequency of polls will increase over the next couple of months and we will get a clearer view of what is happening in battleground states. Right now that 12% lead in Michigan in the latest poll, conducted among likely voters, is a nice starting point for Biden.
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Old 06-09-2020, 08:01 AM   #73
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As usual your post has nothing of value in it.
Having disrespect for an internet loudmouth like you is irrelevant.

You earned my disrespect when you physically threatened me.

You and Lucas need to get a room and swap spit for awhile.
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Right now that 12% lead in Michigan in the latest poll, conducted among likely voters, is a nice starting point for Biden.
Just as it was with Hillary's 2 in a row +11%'s in August 2016 and the 2 11%'s, the 10%, and the 13% in October 2016.

And we saw how much all that early polling actually meant with the final results of 0.3% win Trump had.

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Just as it was with Hillary's 2 in a row +11%'s in August 2016 and the 2 11%'s, the 10%, and the 13% in October 2016.

And we saw how much all that early polling actually meant with the final results of 0.3% win Trump had.
I'm certainly not disagreeing with you that things could shift rapidly in the world of politics. Happened in 2016 and could happen again in 2020.

I just look at different conditions in Michigan in 2020 than in 2016. Time will tell if this very early prediction of mine comes true.
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