The "Race Factor" from a Provider's perspective

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by John Peace

Zarah I'd waste up a lot of my money paying to tongue kiss you and run low on funds to invest in a small up and coming clinic in New York.

That's how powerful sex sells. It's a mutherfucker and I encourage you Zarah to get ALL THE MONEY you can while you're young. Stack that shit up and be a power player in life. You already got something good going keep the train running.

Hahahaaha. Thanks! I am saving lots.

[Mojojo]

Originally Posted by ZarahAdams

Coefficent?

[Soonerman12]

Originally Posted by ZarahAdams

This tops the list for the biggest crock of shit I have ever read.

As a provider, I do not go about fishing for clients. My clients come to me. I do not have to look for anything. I post an ad, write a blog and the emails pour in. My job is not to read minds and posts to determine who has money or not - I simply DO NOT care. You got it all wrong buddy.

I am not a stripper. I am not walking around the room half naked seducing guys to book me. My website/the marketing I have in place does that on it's own 24/7. In other words, the wonderful men here on eccie are not my client base. I come here to share my views and nothing more.

I may not have had my own business prior to being a provider but I have ran a business and I do have a degree in Marketing and Advertising. Your post is just a major fail. John is pretty much spot on. Stop spewing out what you think and post more what you know to be 100% fact. Please! Do us all that small favor.

Your views are based on conjecture and not facts. Seriously. Stop. It's annoying.

As Jenny Demillo says:
http://jennydemilo.com/2010/04/client-vrs-hobbyist/

There is a reason why I posted the link in the first place. A lot of you here (In this case, Soonerman) are simply CLUELESS!
No offense Sir but you sound ridiculous.

Listening to you could make a girl go broke.. You have an infinite amount of clients, make all sorts of money, and cater to the wealthy. Furthermore, you don't have to care what clients think because you have so much business coming to you.

The "I am so good that clients are lucky to come to me" approach is for the amateurs.

This is pure BS.. And even if it were true, there is no way that you could get out in a legal business and treat potential clients like this. In effect, it would mean that you never learned how to run a business (which you don't), and you've reached the apex of your earning power under 25. This is just a complete joke.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Soonerman12

Listening to you could make a girl go broke.. You have an infinite amount of clients, make all sorts of money, and cater to the wealthy. Furthermore, you don't have to care what clients think because you have so much business coming to you.

The "I am so good that clients are lucky to come to me" approach is for the amateurs.

This is pure BS.. And even if it were true, there is no way that you could get out in a legal business and treat potential clients like this. In effect, it would mean that you never learned how to run a business (which you don't), and you've reached the apex of your earning power under 25. This is just a complete joke.

We have already established that you are clueless.
The only time I care about what my clients thinks is when I write my ads, my site texts and when I am bcd with my clients. To be successful in this business, I have to keep my clients in mind. Even when I take my pictures, I am thinking about what my clients wants to see. However, If you think I am scouring the boards to find out who has money or not you are outside of your mind.

I have been helping ladies in this board for years (3 to be exact) so my word is actually worth something. I know what it takes to be a successful in this business. Please take a good look at my reviews once again And contact those that I have helped and see how well they are doing. And if you think that high end ladies are on this board trying playing guess the head huncho - you are clearly mistaken. A lot of high end providers do not post. They do not even want to be associated with message boards. They do just fine without this sort of interaction. Do you NOT understand that?

You are a hobbyist. You do NOT know what goes on in this side of the fence. Go pick up a wig, buy a prepaid phone, post an ad in the TS section, after you've fucked the first 100 men that calls you up, you can talk about me about my business or any other escort's business model. Thank you.

xoxoxo,
Zarah

[Soonerman12]

Originally Posted by Lovelyelle_01

I also grew up in the South. When I graduated in 2004, my school STILL banned biracial couples from walking together for homecoming court. I understand that racism is very alive. I guess I'm just surprised that it's so BLATANT in the hobby. I never had to deal with racism concerning clients before joining discussion boards and stepping into the hobby world online (I'm guessing now that these clients were probably carefully selected chocolate lovers). I mean, I literally felt like a slave standing on the bidding block to be sold to the highest bidder while reading some of the responses...

I just wanted to say that I felt that this was a very good post. Your thoughts here are what I've heard from other providers. The impression that I get from the other ladies is that while being African-American does not stop you from achieving success, it does present extra obstacles that you have to overcome. That sounds very reasonable.

[AdventureAdams]

Originally Posted by Soonerman12

Listening to you could make a girl go broke.. You have an infinite amount of clients, make all sorts of money, and cater to the wealthy. Furthermore, you don't have to care what clients think because you have so much business coming to you.

The "I am so good that clients are lucky to come to me" approach is for the amateurs.

This is pure BS.. And even if it were true, there is no way that you could get out in a legal business and treat potential clients like this. In effect, it would mean that you never learned how to run a business (which you don't), and you've reached the apex of your earning power under 25. This is just a complete joke.

why are you talking to Zarah like you know her?
Who are you to say when she has reached her peak? Why hate on the way she get's business, if she says she is doing good let her be. If she has minions that drool on her every word- good for them i guess, but Zarah is not telling anyone to operate the way she does. I don't think she meant to neglects her clients opinions.

I know that it may be hard to believe for a guy, that once an escort reaches a certain point she doesn't have to market herself publicly as frequently as she had prior because she has a great reputation and there is word of mouth besides what goes on eccie.

When I was in DC i didn't even have to make an ad ppl knew Monday and Thursday "Claire" is open for business and the phone would start ringing. So trust me, it is not impossible.

Honestly sooner you sound like a real sour puss.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou

why are you talking to Zarah like you know her?
Who are you to say when she has reached her peak? Why hate on the way she get's business, if she says she is doing good let her be. If she has minions that drool on her every word- good for them i guess, but Zarah is not telling anyone to operate the way she does. I don't think she meant to neglects her clients opinions.

I know that it may be hard to believe for a guy, that once an escort reaches a certain point she doesn't have to market herself publicly as frequently as she had prior because she has a great reputation and there is word of mouth besides what goes on eccie.

When I was in DC i didn't even have to make an ad ppl knew Monday and Thursday "Claire" is open for business and the phone would start ringing. So trust me, it is not impossible.

Honestly sooner you sound like a real sour puss.

Thank you.

He has an issue with me ever since I stated that I had a certain policy. If you follow his posts you will see it. I am not worried about what he or anyone here has to say because I have proved myself amongst both clients and providers. He is a hobbyist on an escort board / one that has never met me/ trying to tell me what I know and do not know. That is a joke in itself.

[Soonerman12]

Originally Posted by ZarahAdams

We have already established that you are clueless.
The only time I care about what my clients thinks is when I write my ads, my site texts and when I am bcd with my clients. To be successful in this business, I have to keep my clients in mind. Even when I take my pictures, I am thinking about what my clients wants to see. However, If you think I am scouring the boards to find out who has money or not you are outside of your mind.

I have been helping ladies in this board for years (3 to be exact) so my word is actually worth something. I know what it takes to be a successful in this business. Please take a good look at my reviews once again And contact those that I have helped and see how well they are doing. And if you think that high end ladies are on this board trying playing guess the head huncho - you are clearly mistaken. A lot of high end providers do not post. They do not even want to be associated with message boards. They do just fine without this sort of interaction. Do you NOT understand that?

You are a hobbyist. You do NOT know what goes on in this side of the fence. Go pick up a wig, buy a prepaid phone, post an ad in the TS section, after you've fucked the first 100 men that calls you up, you can talk about me about my business or any other escort's business model. Thank you.

xoxoxo,
Zarah

I may know enough to know of your other fake names and how you really do business, and so do plenty of other people. People laugh at you on the forum because everyone knows your real escort identity, which you use on other sites.

Anyway, I don't wake up in the morning thinking about you and prefer to focus on the providers that I can actually stand. You're not significant enough for me to out your real 'escort' name(hint: starts with an "A") nor do I have any interest in how you lie. But truth be told, you advertise like hell and come off a lot different in your ads.

It's dangerous for a girl to assume that someone is an expert just because she posts a lot on the forum.

[Soonerman12]

Originally Posted by ZarahAdams

Thank you.

He has an issue with me ever since I stated that I had a certain policy. If you follow his posts you will see it. I am not worried about what he or anyone here has to say because I have proved myself amongst both clients and providers. He is a hobbyist on an escort board / one that has never met me/ trying to tell me what I know and do not know. That is a joke in itself.

And truthfully, I'm about to put you on ignore. Enough is enough.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Soonerman12

I may know enough to know of your other fake names and how you really do business, and so do plenty of other people. People laugh at you on the forum because everyone knows your real escort identity, which you use on other sites.

Anyway, I don't wake up in the morning thinking about you and prefer to focus on the providers that I can actually stand. You're not significant enough for me to out your real 'escort' name(hint: starts with an "A") nor do I have any interest in how you lie. But truth be told, you advertise like hell and come off a lot different in your ads.

It's dangerous for a girl to assume that someone is an expert just because she posts a lot on the forum.

What are you talking about?
You are trying to bash me / spread lies about me because I do not agree with you.
What fake name do I go by? Please enlighten ALL of us here in public.
I went by "Naomi4u" here on eccie and had over 7,000 posts. Do you think I was trying to hide that? My dear everyone knows and it is no secret. Stop hating. I have never used a name starting with "A" NOT even in my agency days. You cannot prove it. You are just angry and it is ugly. You are angry because I have an NBA policy and I refuse to see black men.

xoxo,
Zarah

[Shayla]

This got ugly fast.

[Soonerman12]

Originally Posted by Shayla

This got ugly fast.

Yeah, I need to let this one go.. Zarrah, I won't be responding to any more of your posts. Believe what you want. I don't care.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Soonerman12

Yeah, I need to let this one go.. Zarrah, I won't be responding to any more of your posts. Believe what you want. I don't care.

NO. NO. NO! You have my permission to "out" me to this whole board! I have reviews on several sites and you are calling me a fake. See what you fail to realize is that I have been working as Zarah since March. It is not something I created overnight. You are insulting me because I will not see your kind! If someone is using my pictures, at least let me know but what you are saying is that I am posting under another name and using another name to work. Back it up! Post the so called information you have about me. Again you have my permission. If you do not, I will report you to the mods for spreading lies.
I'm sick of the ongoing bs with some of you hobbyists.
You lose an argument and you resort to lies. Please let it be known. I am waiting.

[Shayla]

Zarah, I don't mean this in a bad way but I don't think anyone really cares to be honest. By giving him this kind of reaction it's not doing you any justice. You know who you are and so do your clients/friends. Who else do you need prove yourself to? Really?

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Shayla

Zarah, I don't mean this in a bad way but I don't think anyone really cares to be honest. By giving him this kind of reaction it's not doing you any justice. You know who you are and so do your clients/friends. Who else do you need prove yourself to? Really?

You're right but making up lies about me is not right. What have I done to deserve such? All I did was engage in a discussion here and this? Really? smh.