Huge election fraud bust in Pa!!!!

[Jacuzzme]

This is a welcome change (or maybe sarcasm, idk) but the logistics of implementing it would be extraordinarily difficult. I’ve had this done for purposes of entering a secure building, and it’s cumbersome. Doing it for a couple hundred million people would be a gargantuan task.

[HDGristle]

Remember that I said, for those that show up. I'm in favor of all sorts of ways to vote. And all sorts of security methods. You gents never ask the right questions and make many, many assumptions. Even arguing points you think I'm making that exist only in your minds.

If you really want to make it too big to rig, you need some flexibility.

We can walk and chew gum. We can deal with multiple ways to vote and multiple methods of securing the vote.

[Jacuzzme]

A lot of people show up to vote, typically tens of millions. Kudos for wanting to ID them but this just isn’t the way.

[HDGristle]

Seems you're 35% all-in then

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by lustylad

If you truly believed that, both of yinz would rush to support Jacuzzme's ideas.

The fact that you oppose them tells everyone that you know the bulk of the low-information voters out there - the ones J. calls "morons who can't follow instructions" - are Democrats!

I never opposed the idea. I, too, believe voting should be merit-based. For instance, I believe you should have to meet minimum IQ requirements and pass a basic civics test before being allowed to vote.

I simply told J to be careful what he wishes for. His criteria would eliminate an overwhelming majority of trump's voters. At least 75%.

But, back to the thread's intended topic, most proven voter fraud in PA (and elsewhere) is committed by Republicans. That is just the simple fact.

[HDGristle]

Don't worry about Lusty. He's just pushing buttons.

Now, J. What would an appropriate grandfathering schedule be to move the needle? You say it can't happen overnight. We agree. How do you get from A to B?

Let's remember that we don't expect poll workers to be ID experts.

Why can't retinal scan and fingerprints be part of the state biometrics required for a photo ID or DL? Especially since we now use the motor voter as an additional way to opt in and register.

Why not make Real ID into legitimate Real ID?

Let's focus on solutions and drive towards 100% compliance. Truly secure elections where we aren't having humans play the "is this signature close enough" game. Take signatures out the mix that prompted some of these concerns to focus on alternate forms of ID.

[Devo]

17 percent of the voters registered in this case were found to be bad, fake, illegible, etc.

One in six, multiply by how many?

[HDGristle]

Case is still ongoing, but here you go

Only 17% of about 2,500 voter registration applications the Lancaster County district attorney was reviewing have been found to be fraudulent so far, county officials said Monday. Another 26% are still being reviewed and 57% were verified as legitimate applications.

So about 425 confirmed bad so far vs 1,425 confirmed legit

Now, that clearly says registrations. The Trumpster appears to be lying his ass off and claiming that there are 2,500 fraudulent ballots.

Or is it confusion and dementia? Not sure.