AA Men

[Cain Marko]

Originally Posted by disilene

Did someone call PETA? The beating a dead horse at this point.....

Its a dead horse for many, while alive and kicking for many others. There is a mark average I'm sure close to a hundred new members joined everyday who are not as familiar with the sustained longevity of its discussion. I agree that its old and meaningless to me also at this stage.

Originally Posted by disilene

I agree it is not fair, but I am not in favor of anyone telling anyone else what they must and must not do with their own body....We got too much of that on the books already

Originally Posted by jl11

Jumping a woman for who she chooses to sleep with is somewhere close to rape minded behavior in my opinion.

I agree totally with the two other above comments as well but this proverbial phrase predominantly only gets looked at through one perspective, so I'll share the other as well since it pertains to the topic at hand.

I've had more than several providers state to me that they just "Love Them Sum Chocolate" but their other clients have forbidden them from seeing AA. So I either end up not seeing them or have to do no review and keep the experience in the Closet, for the sake of their clientele demands.

Originally Posted by tok07

Maybe we should start a category of providers that will see AA men.....huh, since no one seems to see an issue with those that post 'no AA men', seems like WE as AA men are to assume that if a provider does not post 'no AA men' she is an equal opp- provider, to which i say much to my dissappointment is not true, some just don't post it.....or there are those that don't say it on p411 or eccie but do on bp....hmmmm!!!! Go figure....

Sounds good in theory but thats just Overkill. If you see something you like, assume that All providers (NBA or Not) are equal opportunist providers. Contact them and Screen. Just be prepared to be told No, and move on.

When a provider doesn't post NBA in the profiles on p411 and/or eccie but do on BP. Its becasue they do so to avoid any Thuggery that filters BP heavily. And there is a predominant flow of Black Thuggery on BP. Its not shown on the other sites because the clientele differs and there is no need to display certain restrictions.

[tejero]

No need for the fellas to keep dragging on this topic. There prostitutes move on. You would probably be more lucky going to a bar or something.

[Annie Calhoun]

I agree with you 100%.

It's a dead horse for many, but it's alive an kicking for those of us who understand that, while a woman can choose who she sleeps with (or doesn't) for whatever reason, the choice not to sleep with black men simply because they are black is one deeply rooted in racism.

There is no other explanation, no rationalization, nothing. I will never question a woman's right to decide what she does with (and what happens to) her own body, no matter what the reason. I just think that (like someone else in this thread said) if you are a racist, and if you're going to be brazen enough about it to have a flipping "policy," you should at least have the guts to own it.

I mean, come on. You're doing the equivalent of putting a sign over your door saying "No Blacks Allowed." You're insulting the intelligence of everyone around you when you try to pass yourself off as anything more than a bigot.

Originally Posted by DaMuLe888

Its a dead horse for many, while alive and kicking for many others. There is a mark average I'm sure close to a hundred new members joined everyday who are not as familiar with the sustained longevity of its discussion. I agree that its old and meaningless to me also at this stage.


I agree totally with the two other above comments as well but this proverbial phrase predominantly only gets looked at through one perspective, so I'll share the other as well since it pertains to the topic at hand.

I've had more than several providers state to me that they just "Love Them Sum Chocolate" but their other clients have forbidden them from seeing AA. So I either end up not seeing them or have to do no review and keep the experience in the Closet, for the sake of their clientele demands.



Sounds good in theory but thats just Overkill. If you see something you like, assume that All providers (NBA or Not) are equal opportunist providers. Contact them and Screen. Just be prepared to be told No, and move on.

When a provider doesn't post NBA in the profiles on p411 and/or eccie but do on BP. Its becasue they do so to avoid any Thuggery that filters BP heavily. And there is a predominant flow of Black Thuggery on BP. Its not shown on the other sites because the clientele differs and there is no need to display certain restrictions.

[trekker]

Originally Posted by BlackJedi

... Also the prison thing....what does that have to do with anything? ...

Just an example of how a statistic is tabulated that doesn't accurately represent the residents of the city. Thousands of people who don't actually live in BR and may have come from all over the state are added to BR's statistic simply because they were diagnosed in a BR lab.

[thegfegirls]

Interesting thread, we here at the Elves tend to allow providers to have their own CHOICE, seeing so many people here saying a provider who has preferences is wrong is kind of scarry. A provider chooses to charge a rate as well, I dont see anyone coming here and saying how wrong that is, most proper providers choose to use condoms , anyone want to say how terrible that is? Lets face it, gents right here on this board have tried to haggle rates and request BB fun from many providers, by the way of thinking in this thread the customer is ALWAYS right and thus you ladies should start giving it out for free and sans the condoms, then you wouldnt be a hypocrit right? Lets face it, you give it to your SO for free, and we have all had BB sex with someone in our lives, so just as you say dont lump the all the AA males into "No AA", you shouldnt lump all the clients into "No BB" or "No free" so whats your qualifications for BB and Free providing? You dont cater to the BB guys or the Free guys?? WOW! So you made a CHOICE? What gives u the right to make a CHOICE but those who choose "no aa" should not have the same luxury?
Oh now of course everyone will say "oh you cant compare those things to this!" but I believe it is all a matter of CHOICE, each day someone else wants to take another CHOICE from another american all under the guise of correctness towards someone else, I say if you dont like someones CHOICE then dont live with it, dont have that person in your life, but expecting everyone to bend to your CHOICE or labling them wrong, is seriously UnAmerican and one day when someone takes away a CHOICE that you live by, lets see if you are able to say "oh well, tit for tat, I took their choice to see black men from the escorts, so its fair I lose my choice to decide if my kid gets an education or not" Choice people, its the fundamental thing that seperates us from the rest of the dictatorships around the globe.

This country has had enough of the BS of turning everything into something racial, simply because it doesnt jive with one race or another, Racism is far less frequent in this nation than anti-hobby hate, and anti-pot hate, how do I know? Because over 50% of this nation Elected a BLACK PRESIDENT, and prostitution is still Illegal, pot still illegal. Wake up folks, stop being part of the problem.


Fact is a provider is a business unto herself, if she wishes to not cater to someone she has that right I would think and anyone trying to change her preference by way of this multi-page long attack of those providers is tanamount to forcing a girl to do something she really doesnt wish to do, and in America doing so in a sexual manner is in fact sexual assault. No different here than somone telling your wife at work, "If you want to keep making money, then polish the boss's knob". If she come home with a paycheck and looking like she just ate a box of Krispy Kremes then be sure to say "way to go babe!"

We have Elves who enjoy seeing AA males within reason, we support their CHOICE, and we have those who do not wish to see AA males, and we support their CHOICE the same. I am not as bothered by the gents who have posted here with their opinions, what concerns me is that there are providers posting in here saying that another providers CHOICE is not only wrong but somehow improper, I would think providers would and could respect the CHOICES afforded in this business with a bit more respect.

[BlackJedi]

"We have Elves who enjoy seeing AA males within reason, we support their CHOICE,........"

Again..the black men including myself get that these ladies have a CHOICE but what is meant by 'within reason'? Do AAs have to go through hoops and some sort of Super Screening to see the ladies at your establishment?

[DallasRain]

Quote----We have Elves who enjoy seeing AA males within reason, we support their CHOICE, and we have those who do not wish to see AA males, and we support their CHOICE the same. I am not as bothered by the gents who have posted here with their opinions, what concerns me is that there are providers posting in here saying that another providers CHOICE is not only wrong but somehow improper, I would think providers would and could respect the CHOICES afforded in this business with a bit more respect.
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WELL SAID! Freedom is choice is what makes each provider unique!
{I myself am an equal opportunity provider}

[thegfegirls]

Truth be told we tend to recommend Elves see any client they are able to safely verify in short simple order, obviously an AA male with numerous reviews, polite banter and long term hobby life would pose no safety issues and our line as management is drawn at that, If its safe, we say go play. In the end the choice still remains with the Elf. So we use the same criteria to verify everyone, race is not the concern of the firm, and is a provider choice.

You have to understand that on a weekly basis right here in the Louisiana area, an Elf will recieve over 15 messages from AA pimps offering to "take care" of them and even give them up to 20 dollars of what they earn per client. When they decline or ignore then the threats begin. After a while the fear that one of those pimps may get smart and come at them in a different manner terns to put them in a situation of simply covering all bases by saying No AA males. Now while many of the providers who are giving their opinions here are above the "age limit" for most street pimps and they rarely encounter such issues, they can be more open minded.

We as a clients and providers have to realize that the choices of others may have grounds that you are unaware of, so simply saying someone is wrong for making a choice you dont agree with can seem increasingly like the same as the opinions of the outside world saying all providers are drug and disease ridden sluts. Obviously opinion is ill informed and based off simply lack of information.

Originally Posted by BlackJedi

"We have Elves who enjoy seeing AA males within reason, we support their CHOICE,........"

Again..the black men including myself get that these ladies have a CHOICE but what is meant by 'within reason'? Do AAs have to go through hoops and some sort of Super Screening to see the ladies at your establishment?

[Arverni]

Originally Posted by BlackJedi

Dude nobody is challenging these girls on who they can see.

Dude ... you ARE challenging their right to see whom they wish. Sorry - the civil rights act doesn't apply to sexual encounters and "lumping in" is a right any human has a right to do.

Go to Japan as a white American and see how hard it is to see a provider there - many have outright bans on seeing Americans and it's because they've had bad experiences with one or two.

This is life ... this is a dead issue. Get over it. There's plenty of great providers who don't discriminate in this manner.

[Brmike1963]

When a provider doesn't post NBA in the profiles on p411 and/or eccie but do on BP. Its becasue they do so to avoid any Thuggery that filters BP heavily. And there is a predominant flow of Black Thuggery on BP. Its not shown on the other sites because the clientele differs and there is no need to display certain restrictions.

Well said, I think this is far closer to the truth.

[asterik22]

Make a dating site profile as a white guy and start messaging African American girls for dates, the HUGE majority will say they don't date white guys, are they racists?

[BlackJedi]

Not once in this thread did I see these girls HAVE to see me.
Not once! Do.Not.Go.There.

LOL---I guess you're right. I can 'lump you in' as well.

Originally Posted by Arverni

Dude ... you ARE challenging their right to see whom they wish. Sorry - the civil rights act doesn't apply to sexual encounters and "lumping in" is a right any human has a right to do.

Go to Japan as a white American and see how hard it is to see a provider there - many have outright bans on seeing Americans and it's because they've had bad experiences with one or two.

This is life ... this is a dead issue. Get over it. There's plenty of great providers who don't discriminate in this manner.

[disilene]

I think the main problem here is that in the US today we tell people they cannot be bigoted.
However, by making that a rule, and making it socially unacceptable.....does not necessarily make people not bigoted....only makes they hide their feelings.

I have always been of the mind that truth is the best policy. I spent some time in Australian and was so amazed at their thoughts on such a thing. Be honest about everything....own who you are. If you don't like someone....tell them. Don't just talk behind their back.


Even in three of their biggest cities, Adelaide, Sydney, and Melbourne......never once was I a target of a scam. I walk sown Bourbon and I am a mark for 5-10 different scammers, till they realize I am not a tourist.


If you want to do something or don't want to do something....that is a choice. We still have the freedom to make choices.


The flip side is. What if an AA male did have a rendezvous with a provider who did not want to see him. However, afraid she would be ostracized or some such backlash.....she sees him.
Now: Will this be a satisfactory encounter for either one of them?


Will he get his money's worth satisfaction out of seeing her?

By her not seeing him, taking his money, and then not giving her best effort......isn't she saving him from a bad date that may fail to satisfy him?





Yes, in a Utopian society there would be no preference. However, that is not the case. I think we should own what we want and who we are.

So in full disclosure....I want to find a smoking hot Asian GFE!

[thegfegirls]

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=1131418n

[jl11]

I think the main question here is how many of these providers actually give a fuck about this multi page thread? Are they too busy with clientele and life that perhaps they don't have time to try to dictate and instigate shit with other providers like some of these ECCIE poster whores seem to be doing? I've seen many NBA providers and have had great experiences with them. The worst experience I ever had was from a non NBA provider who got dressed after a cbj without completion and told me that I should of paid her more for doing that. She had a terrible attitude and then met up with her black pimp/bf outside as I headed for my car. So is it fucking possible that you can have a bad experience regardless of the racial circumstances? Do I now put all non NBA providers on a bad pedestal bc of that experience? No I don't. Maybe she didn't care to see me bc I'm white, and she was white by the way. I'd of much rather her told me at the door, "hey I don't like white guys so get lost needledick". Lol. I'd of much rather had that than to of gone through what I went through in that session.