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Old 05-14-2013, 01:54 PM   #61
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Me thincks you forgot Asshats.
Nah, not really. That didn't even deserve honorable mention.
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:08 PM   #62
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:15 PM   #63
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Ut oh, I thinck we are at the humor, highjack stage of the thread. Lock coming in 5...4...3...
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:36 PM   #64
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What reason could a hobbyist possibly have for sharing that content? Maybe its like blowpop will likely insist and the ladies just looooove reading and reliving their wonderful sessions together. Or he's such a stellar writer that any review of his is destined to be classic literature.

Or maybe its done to curry favor with a provider, plain and simple. Its an odd demonstration of loyalty to her in the hopes of... something. Perhaps a deeper connection and more special relationship, maybe discounts on services or insight into the areas of the board that hobbyists aren't allowed. I don't know for certain and it ultimately doesn't matter. All that matters now is that the integrity of any information he brings to the board is in doubt IMHO. He can point to the forum guidelines and quibble about the minutia, but we will never know why he's writing the reviews/intel he does and whether or not any of it's true.
With all due respect, this is a silly position. Unless a member is either a newbie or hopelessly naive, he realizes that everything he posts on Eccie, whether labelled as private or not, is available to anyone who's got even the slightest bit of motivation to read it. Posting a review and assuming that the provider won't see it is foolish. Posting ANYTHING on a public board with an assumption of privacy is foolish.

So what I do is straightforward. I e-mail reviews of providers to them, assuming I have her email address and I think she might be interested. That way she doesn't have to do anything underhanded to find out my opinion. I don't think it's great literature, but most people are interested in what's written about them, and smart business people pay attention to feedback.

I'm not thrilled that you seem to think I have an ulterior motive for writing reviews. Look at my history - unlike many members, you'll see several "No" recommendations. Believe me, there is no benefit to the hobbyist to putting "No" on the recommended line other than to honestly share information.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:15 PM   #65
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With all due respect, this is a silly position. Unless a member is either a newbie or hopelessly naive, he realizes that everything he posts on Eccie, whether labelled as private or not, is available to anyone who's got even the slightest bit of motivation to read it. Posting a review and assuming that the provider won't see it is foolish. Posting ANYTHING on a public board with an assumption of privacy is foolish.

So what I do is straightforward. I e-mail reviews of providers to them, assuming I have her email address and I think she might be interested. That way she doesn't have to do anything underhanded to find out my opinion. I don't think it's great literature, but most people are interested in what's written about them, and smart business people pay attention to feedback.

I'm not thrilled that you seem to think I have an ulterior motive for writing reviews. Look at my history - unlike many members, you'll see several "No" recommendations. Believe me, there is no benefit to the hobbyist to putting "No" on the recommended line other than to honestly share information.
Perhaps I should amplify: I'm not calling your integrity into question specifically. Rather I'm asserting that your integrity can now be called into question. It may be a fine distinction, but it is a distinction. YOU aren't the problem; the floodgate that your hasty typing could now open is.

I'm completely aware of the countless loopholes that exist in the "barrier" between public and privileged information. But that reality isn't what concerns me. What concerns me is the perception. If these loopholes are now facts and policy instead of a loosely-guarded secret, the utility of this board just took a serious hit.

Acknowledge it or don't, I don't really care anymore. I wish you could see how foolish your litte crusade has been, but thats not likely. I'm done here, so feel free to have the last word.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:16 PM   #66
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...he realizes that everything he posts on Eccie, whether labelled as private or not, is available to anyone who's got even the slightest bit of motivation to read it.
And there's the problem...
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And there's the problem...
Agreed, but what's the solution?
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:30 PM   #68
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Who said there's a solution???

The owners have set up a money making scenario which makes it impossible to enforce privacy for hobbyists on this board, unlike providers. There's no such thing as a complete solution.

One answer is to make it more difficult to reveal the important info while still making money for the owners, and I've already discussed how to do that in another thread...
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Perhaps I should amplify: I'm not calling your integrity into question specifically. Rather I'm asserting that your integrity can now be called into question. It may be a fine distinction, but it is a distinction. YOU aren't the problem; the floodgate that your hasty typing could now open is.
Fair enough, and thank you for the clarification. For what it's worth, my integrity has been called into question many times in the past, and will no doubt be many times in the future. Usually by those with questionable integrity themselves, interestingly enough. I've concluded that people often think they see in others what exists in themselves.

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I'm completely aware of the countless loopholes that exist in the "barrier" between public and privileged information. But that reality isn't what concerns me. What concerns me is the perception. If these loopholes are now facts and policy instead of an unspoken reality, the utility of this board just took a serious hit.
So you're saying the system works if we turn a blind eye to the fact that private information doesn't stay private? I think you underestimate the intelligence of the typical Eccie member.

I'd imagine the savvy members do what I do. They share information on Eccie that they don't mind being public. And they share more privileged information via other channels.

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Acknowledge it or don't, I don't really care anymore. I wish you could see how foolish your litte crusade has been, but thats not likely. I'm done here, so feel free to have the last word.
It troubles me a bit that you view this as some sort of crusade. I was merely seeking clarification, and the fact that different mods had different understandings of the rule demonstrates that clarification was needed.

If having clear rules is a threat to Eccie's utility, then perhaps the rules need to be revisited.
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I think you underestimate the intelligence of the typical Eccie member.
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Too many interpretations IMO. St C would be the best one to answer I think.
There was a gent in dallas who actually posted his ROS in Coed a while back. The thread was not closed and no points assigned. From what I understand, The OP of any review can do as he wishes with his ROS. Now revealing what other comments maybe posted on his review that is a no go. So maybe St C should weigh in
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:39 PM   #72
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From what I understand, The OP of any review can do as he wishes with his ROS.
Yeah...not so much...
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Who said there's a solution???

The owners have set up a money making scenario which makes it impossible to enforce privacy for hobbyists on this board, unlike providers. There's no such thing as a complete solution.

One answer is to make it more difficult to reveal the important info while still making money for the owners, and I've already discussed how to do that in another thread...
Can you point me in the direction of that thread? I'd like to see that suggestion.
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Old 05-14-2013, 04:22 PM   #74
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Click my handle, click "Find more posts by Wakeup"...it's in there somewhere...
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Transam not many want to search their own posts when it's in the thousands lol.....


Trust me I know.
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