A question for the guys...

[papadee]

Originally Posted by Randall Creed

Agree. If Mr. Mechanic is faithfully married or involved, her pussy has no value to him.

This whole concept apparently flies over the heads of some people.

So why does faithfully married Mr. Mechanic step out & pay for pussy to begin with?

[papadee]

Originally Posted by papadee

I've tried multiple times to explain that the OP was about negotiating a lower price, based on the OP saying "...can't afford my price". Bartering is negotiating service for non cash payment. It is up to the negotiators to decide what is equal value.

Originally Posted by tinyisgreat

she is negotiating terms ie I will pay 1500 but only to someone who will except pussy. She knows the out of pocket expenses or value of her pussy 5 times is less than 1500 so even if she is trading fair or equal value she had reduced her net cost and negotiated a better deal

Try reading what I actually wrote.

I said it is up to the negotiators to decide what is equal value. In your scenario $1500 of an escort is equal to 5 hours. But some escorts (I haven't looked at Tiffany's rates, so I don't know) offer overnights for $1500. So instead of the simple $300hr x 5, she might offer him 12 hours or more for the $1500.

[tinyisgreat]

Originally Posted by papadee

Try reading what I actually wrote.

I said it is up to the negotiators to decide what is equal value. In your scenario $1500 of an escort is equal to 5 hours. But some escorts (I haven't looked at Tiffany's rates, so I don't know) offer overnights for $1500. So instead of the simple $300hr x 5, she might offer him 12 hours or more for the $1500.

in the 5 hr scenario it could be argued she is not negotiating price only payment terms. In the 12 or more hour scenario she would no doubt be negotiating willing to accept 120 hr or less in order to not have to go into pocket for cash to pay. In essence she says if I don't have to pay cash for repairs I'll fuck u for 120 an hour if someone else calls they have to pay 300

If 12 guys called and said I'll fuck u if u do 150 an hour she would be insulted by being asked to earn 1800 instead of 1500 for same amount of fucking. Hence no surprise when hooker charging 300 hr doesn't have money to pay phone bill.

Hence hooker fighting for custody of child cannot afford lawyer and would have lawyer risk being disbarred rather than accept Lowe compensation to fuck

[papadee]

Originally Posted by tinyisgreat

in the 5 hr scenario it could be argued she is not negotiating price only payment terms. In the 12 or more hour scenario she would no doubt be negotiating willing to accept 120 hr or less in order to not have to go into pocket for cash to pay. In essence she says if I don't have to pay cash for repairs I'll fuck u for 120 an hour if someone else calls they have to pay 300

If 12 guys called and said I'll fuck u if u do 150 an hour she would be insulted by being asked to earn 1800 instead of 1500 for same amount of fucking. Hence no surprise when hooker charging 300 hr doesn't have money to pay phone bill.

Hence hooker fighting for custody of child cannot afford lawyer and would have lawyer risk being disbarred rather than accept Lowe compensation to fuck

Most escorts offer a discounted rate for extended engagements, they don't intend on fucking for 12 hrs straight, so I'm not sure where you were headed with that point.

Maybe she pays her lawyer cash, and barters for another service.

[Guest033019]

Originally Posted by papadee

No, you're not. She didn't post anything about barter, and she said she clearly states she does not negotiate.

She has a thread asking to barter is what I mean

[Tiny]

Question for providers: What if a client wants to negotiate a multi-hour, overnight, or multi-day visit? Would you be offended if he offers you something less than your posted rate?

Negotiating down from $300 to $250 for an hour seems kind of pointless, but when a provider is asking for $2000 for an overnight, most prospective clients aren't going to consider it. Also, some providers will, say, charge $300 for an hour, $600 for two hours, and $1000 for 3 three hours. There's no price break per hour for additional time, or it actually costs more. If I want a multi-hour date, I won't look at seeing a provider that has that kind of pricing structure. If some negotiation were occurring, maybe the parties would end up with a win-win deal.

I'd also be curious what kind of response hobbyists have had when trying to negotiate with escorts. I've never tried it with an escort, but negotiation is pretty standard with other types of providers, as well as strippers and sugar babies.

[papadee]

Originally Posted by Amiliah Rayne

She has a thread asking to barter is what I mean

Okay, sorry.

[James1588]

Originally Posted by Tiny

... Also, some providers will, say, charge $300 for an hour, $600 for two hours, and $1000 for 3 three hours. There's no price break per hour for additional time, or it actually costs more. If I want a multi-hour date, I won't look at seeing a provider that has that kind of pricing structure. If some negotiation were occurring, maybe the parties would end up with a win-win deal.

I'd also be curious what kind of response hobbyists have had when trying to negotiate with escorts. ...

I've also noticed that some women show a pricing structure that, at first glance at least, makes little sense. The OP in this thread is an example. Her showcase offers 30 minutes for $250, 60 minutes for $300, and 90 minutes for $450. Going from 30 to 60 minutes, she's charging $50 for the additional half-hour. But if you buy another half-hour, from 60 to 90 minutes, that additional half-hour costs you $150. I'd guess that either she really, really doesn't like 90-minute appointments and punishes you for making one ... or, maybe, arithmetic's not her strong suit.

Your second question, about negotiation: the closest I've ever come is what I'd call a "soft" or indirect negotiation, in which the time I want doesn't have a listed price. In such cases, I've asked if I could book that time that I want (that has no listed rate) and make an offer. For example: I'm a two-hour guy. If I were in west Texas and wanted to book with the OP, I'd probably ask if I could book two hours for $500, and see what she says. I wouldn't "negotiate" further, though; once she quoted me a two-hour price, I'd either take it, or politely move on. But that's just me.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by James1588

I've also noticed that some women show a pricing structure that, at first glance at least, makes little sense. The OP in this thread is an example. Her showcase offers 30 minutes for $250, 60 minutes for $300, and 90 minutes for $450. Going from 30 to 60 minutes, she's charging $50 for the additional half-hour. But if you buy another half-hour, from 60 to 90 minutes, that additional half-hour costs you $150.

Interesting, thanks James. Tiffany, If you're still reading this thread, are the guys who want to negotiate mostly wanting 30 minutes? If so, they may think the $250 doesn't make sense, given the $300 rate for an hour, so figure you may be willing to negotiate on that.

[Gucci]

I don’t negotiate prices, but on a few occasions I wish I had. A lot of providers don’t have face pics and some guys save up for weeks even months to get their hobby money and when you anticipate a date and finally see this faceless person and she doesn’t have the ten face to go with her ten body, well the disappointment sits in. Just because you have a 300 dollar pussy doesn’t mean you have a 300 dollar face. I believe in “ the price is the price “ , but I have been disappointed a time or two when a provider has opened the door.

[tinyisgreat]

Originally Posted by Gucci

I don’t negotiate prices, but on a few occasions I wish I had. A lot of providers don’t have face pics and some guys save up for weeks even months to get their hobby money and when you anticipate a date and finally see this faceless person and she doesn’t have the ten face to go with her ten body, well the disappointment sits in. Just because you have a 300 dollar pussy doesn’t mean you have a 300 dollar face. I believe in “ the price is the price “ , but I have been disappointed a time or two when a provider has opened the door.

i totaly get what ur saying has happened many a time.. whats even worse is when the body or face is different than what is pictured even because they use pics that are old , misleading or just plain bait and switch.. in these cases best thing is to simply turn and walk. by going through with it u only reienforce this behavior and it becomes more prevelant.

afterwards post so others dont face the same bs

[James1588]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Interesting, thanks James. Tiffany, If you're still reading this thread, are the guys who want to negotiate mostly wanting 30 minutes? If so, they may think the $250 doesn't make sense, given the $300 rate for an hour, so figure you may be willing to negotiate on that.

Thank you. However, the $250 for 30 vs the $300 for 60 isn't what's so hard for me to understand. That actually makes a lot of sense. She has to do the same "overhead" tasks (admin, getting herself ready, and so on) for 30 as for 60, so I'd expect 30 to cost nearly the same as 60. What had me scratching my head was what happens between 60 and 90 (+$150, as opposed to the +$50 from 30 to 60). There, I do wonder whether she's thought it out carefully.

[ck1942]

Tiffany:

Sweetheart, stick to your guns (and buns!) and try to take all of the informative posts above with at least a grain of salt and a big smile!

Truth is, as I instruct all ladies hereabouts, "you need to have two rules.

1) the lady makes the rules
2) the lady makes sure the gents (well, many males are truly gentlemen) know the rules."

So, in essence, your profile here shows all what the rules are or may be, and if they cannot pay attention, well, their issue, not yours. As to just cutting them off, perhaps sending them a link to your rules would be an adequate reply.

As for jacks who cannot pay attention to nor heed a jane's rules, instructions, etc., perhaps disregard many of the explanations above and consider that

Every one of us here is a rule breaker just by being in the hobby.

So what compels any of us to respect any rules a lady might make? Well, the obvious is obvious: consequences.

In my end of the hobby world, the obvious is "cutting 'em off" or tossing them out; forcing them to "look into the window (your reviews, for example) from outside.

As for misbehaving jacks (jerks, jackasses or worse) who show disrespect outright, consider these displays as more of a blessing insofar as your research and screening and vouching is made much more easy.

btw, we'd love to have you visit us in San Antonio some time!

Stay safe out there!

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by Gucci

I don’t negotiate prices, but on a few occasions I wish I had. A lot of providers don’t have face pics and some guys save up for weeks even months to get their hobby money and when you anticipate a date and finally see this faceless person and she doesn’t have the ten face to go with her ten body, well the disappointment sits in. Just because you have a 300 dollar pussy doesn’t mean you have a 300 dollar face. I believe in “ the price is the price “ , but I have been disappointed a time or two when a provider has opened the door.

when grocery shopping, ask for the paper bags

[Randall Creed]

Originally Posted by James1588

Thank you. However, the $250 for 30 vs the $300 for 60 isn't what's so hard for me to understand. That actually makes a lot of sense. She has to do the same "overhead" tasks (admin, getting herself ready, and so on) for 30 as for 60, so I'd expect 30 to cost nearly the same as 60. What had me scratching my head was what happens between 60 and 90 (+$150, as opposed to the +$50 from 30 to 60). There, I do wonder whether she's thought it out carefully.

This logic isn't flawless, either. A provider shouldn't 'get ready' any different for a half hour appointment than she should for an hour, or two hours. A small cup of coffee has the same sugar, cream, and water ratio that an extra large cup has. Should the small cup cost 'nearly as much'??

Not everyone needs an hour to enjoy themselves with a woman. If the prices are too similar, a guy may pay for an hour, but may feel inclined to want to 'get his money's worth' and wear her out...for a whole hour.

I could see maybe, 70-75% of a full hour's worth in half hour pricing. Yes, the hour should be the sweeter deal price point, but it's better to make something in a hh vs nothing in an hour because the price difference was too close.

Everyone has their own viewpoint on this, of course.

Her getting ready process should be a standard deal, not a let me get ready MO' BETTER for hour guy and less for hh guy.