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02-03-2014, 10:31 AM
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Yes...had Reagan not done what he done, there would not be this huge problem needing fixing! Do you understand when health care cost started blowing up? After Reagan!
When you make ER's work for free, more people will just not have coverage (Why should they, afterall the ER visit is free!) or some will buy shitty coverage that really does not cover them. That means that the rest of us pay. That is why I am for this tax on folks that do not get decent insurance.
But if you really want to fix health care , you need to repeal the antitrust exemption for the insurance industry.
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decide on a consistent liberal position and keep with it
you castigate Reagan for signing some BIPARTISAN emergency room requirement of care and everywhere else you fall over backwards for government expansion
in fact you do have only one consistency in all the years you have posted, you hate Reagan and twist his record in most all regards as a trap for fools
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02-03-2014, 11:27 AM
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in fact you do have only one consistency in all the years you have posted, you hate Reagan and twist his record in most all regards as a trap for fools
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Just as you Obama haters do. You dumb fucks hate getting your own shit thrown back at ya.
I just love how you goo gobblers give Ronnie all the credit and none of the blame.
Again, if you want folks to buy health insurance....repel the law Ronnie signed. Ronnie fucking Reagan. Your God damn hero and my god damn whipping boy.
http://www.eclectablog.com/2012/02/r...dicine-in.html
You think everything that’s gone wrong is because of big government liberals. But it’s big government conservatives who have (purposefully) created a government that can’t pay for its self.
I’m not just talking about Medicare Part D, which literally wasn’t paid for and overpays for drugs as a giveaway to the pharmaceutical industry. I’m talking about how Ronald Reagan socialized medicine when he signed the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act.
This law MANDATES that all emergency rooms in all hospitals that take federal money serve anyone who comes to that emergency room, regardless of his or her ability to pay. And it offers no funding to achieve this mandate, which raises the cost of health care for everyone who can pay.
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02-03-2014, 12:01 PM
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Just as you Obama haters do. You dumb fucks hate getting your own shit thrown back at ya.
fucking Reagan. ... my *** damn whipping boy.
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Reagan and Obama are in opposition, that is true
I don't hate Obama, he is just unprepared and has ill conceived feelings in place of good policy
he is obstinate and hyper-partisan, unwilling to work with anyone of another mind
rarely does truth reside in him as most every claim and most every categorization by him of his opposition consists of half truths
he is dour and self serving
the old song "its only a paper moon" could be a theme song for his administration...for its paper mache and fluff and children at play
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02-03-2014, 12:09 PM
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Reagan and Obama are in opposition, that is true
I don't hate Obama, he is just unprepared and has ill conceived feelings in place of good policy
he is obstinate and hyper-partisan, unwilling to work with anyone of another mind
rarely does truth reside in him as most every claim and most every categorization by him of his opposition consists of half truths
he is dour and self serving
the old song "its only a paper moon" could be a theme song for his administration...for its paper mache and fluff and children at play
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he is obstinate and hyper-partisan, unwilling to work with anyone of another mind
describing yourself much?
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02-03-2014, 12:41 PM
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Don't like the "Bette" story? Then I guess y'all liked this one better, huh?
http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=970068
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02-03-2014, 12:45 PM
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Ever wonder why prescription drugs are so much cheaper EVERYWHERE else in the world?
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Because other countries keep ripping off our patents and intellectual property rights?
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02-03-2014, 12:58 PM
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Again, if you want folks to buy health insurance....repel the law Ronnie signed... I’m talking about... the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act.
This law MANDATES that all emergency rooms in all hospitals that take federal money serve anyone who comes to that emergency room, regardless of his or her ability to pay.
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Really? You're cool with that? You want to turn away uninsured people who show up at the ER in the middle of a heart attack? And you think Reagan-worshipping Republicans are mean and stone-hearted?
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02-03-2014, 01:31 PM
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Really? You're cool with that? You want to turn away uninsured people who show up at the ER in the middle of a heart attack? And you think Reagan-worshipping Republicans are mean and stone-hearted?
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Yes if they do not want to buy insurance and then turn around and have me pay for their medical care. That is fucking stupid. I have no problem people gambling their own money. Not to happy about them wanting me to pay their losses. Poor people should get free care. That's it. You Republicans are just ignorant of simple math.
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02-03-2014, 01:35 PM
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Reagan and Obama are in opposition, that is true
I don't hate Obama, he is just unprepared and has ill conceived feelings in place of good policy
he is ay
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You think Ronnie giving away free ER care was good policy? If the Des had a ignorant ass version of the Tea Party back in the day, there would have been no bipartisan legislation.
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02-03-2014, 02:18 PM
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Poor people should get free care... You Republicans are just ignorant of simple math.
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You think Ronnie giving away free ER care was good policy?
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Wow. You are the ignorant one. I've got news for you. There is NO SUCH THING AS FREE CARE. You contradict yourself when you complain about having to pay for Ronnie's "free ER care". It's not free if you or someone else has to pay for it, right?
But never mind that. Explain to me how it was bad policy for Reagan to give away "free care" in medical emergencies yet it is good policy for Obama to give away "free care" willy-nilly under the ACA.
Funny how you bitch about having to pay for one but not the other... so you want to bring back the old days of turning away uninsured ER visitors? Wow, you really are a MEANIE, aren't you? Don't you have any EMPATHY or COMPASSION? What kind of human being are you? Oh wait, I forgot, you're a Democrat...
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02-03-2014, 02:56 PM
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Wow. You are the ignorant one. I've got news for you. There is NO SUCH THING AS FREE CARE. You contradict yourself when you complain about having to pay for Ronnie's "free ER care". It's not free if you or someone else has to pay for it, right?
But never mind that. Explain to me how it was bad policy for Reagan to give away "free care" in medical emergencies yet it is good policy for Obama to give away "free care" willy-nilly under the ACA.
Funny how you bitch about having to pay for one but not the other... so you want to bring back the old days of turning away uninsured ER visitors? Wow, you really are a MEANIE, aren't you? Don't you have any EMPATHY or COMPASSION? What kind of human being are you? Oh wait, I forgot, you're a Democrat...
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I think someone needs to explain "irony" to ya.
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02-03-2014, 03:27 PM
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I think someone needs to explain "irony" to ya.
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If you're tossing WTFagboy a lifesaver, nice try. He's tripped all over himself with so many inconsistencies and contradictions that he is beyond rescuing at this point. Plus the concept of irony, let alone its effective use, is way over his head.
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02-03-2014, 03:58 PM
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If you're tossing WTFagboy a lifesaver, nice try. He's tripped all over himself with so many inconsistencies and contradictions that he is beyond rescuing at this point. Plus the concept of irony, let alone its effective use, is way over his head.
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I do not need a lifesaver dick head. One is basically a unfunded mandate, the other is a somewhat means tested mandate. I'm not even sure if your dumbass can figure out which one is which. Taxing assholes that do not want to buy insurance is a great idea as long as you have this Ronnie Reagan law forcing hospitals to care for all. Just because you are to dimwitted to understand the history and effects of these laws does not mean I do not know wtf I'm talking about.
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02-03-2014, 07:31 PM
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Because other countries keep ripping off our patents and intellectual property rights?
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WRONG. The drug companies sell it under their label everywhere. Are you aware that drug companies spend more money on advertising and promotion and lobbying than they spend on R&D. Drug companies are rolling in cash because they have Congress in their pocket and dumb fucks like you are believing their lies.
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02-03-2014, 10:02 PM
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Big Pharma is one of the major players in our crony capitalist (fascist) system.
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