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Old 04-05-2012, 08:10 AM   #61
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Everytime I watch that video Im floored that the officers have someone in cuffs but dont maintain positive control of that person in this video.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:56 AM   #62
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Enhanced video shows wounds on the back of George Zimmerman's head which supports his story.
Now enhanced audio shows that George Zimmerman did not utter a racist ephitat when confronted by Martin.

If the left had any shame they would be very embarassed by their leap.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:58 AM   #63
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"If" is such a big word
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:08 PM   #64
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Everytime I watch that video Im floored that the officers have someone in cuffs but dont maintain positive control of that person in this video.
Grifter, go get yourself a pair of police regulation handcuffs and use them on your sugarbabies or let them use them on you and get back to me with that question.
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:57 PM   #65
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now that more details begin to emerge i'm more and more convinced "little" trayvon isn't quite the the son Prez Barack Hussein Mulatto II would want. or is he?
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:17 PM   #66
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I'll admit, I jumped to a conclusion at the beginning, just like the MSM wanted. I'm embarrassed. I rail against the MSM all the time, and here I let them fool me.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:27 PM   #67
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Here's some more Zimmerman updates that haven't been widely circulated:

Zimmerman called 9-11 Forty-Seven (47) times NOT OVER THE COURSE OF 14 MONTHS but since Jan 2004.

Averages out to be less than once a month. Now, I don't know how long he's been a Neighborhood Patrol Volunteer (nightwatchman) and if he made all those calls while "on-duty" but if he did, I would think that is reasonable.

Its also being reported that Zimmerman's weight is currently 170 lbs, not 240 as widely first reported.

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/mai...-media-bs.html

I know, I know, Trayvon is still dead.
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:10 PM   #68
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:45 AM   #69
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Default Double Standard: Black Men Named Trayvon Get Killed all the Time, But The Left Doesn't Care

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Old 04-07-2012, 02:32 PM   #70
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Honestly changes nothing. Republican, Democrat, or Pastafarian he still gunned down a teenager.
Missy, you miss the whole point! Most folks on here don't want to look at the fundamentals, they want to spew politics.

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except for the the part where democrats like to say that evil republicans advocate killing blacks, jews......and grandma

Then, a democrat up and kills a black kid..........the irony.
For sane folks this isn't about Dem or Rep, and shouldn't be about White or Black. It's about a guy with a gun getting into a macho vigilanti mindset.


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It would be interesting to hear from one of Martin’s football coaches. They could add another dimension to this debate by revealing how much weight Martin could bench-press (160 lbs; 180 lbs; 200 lbs?????) and/or dead lift, because that is how these young men prepare when they play football. They run, sprint and lift weights; plus, they are trained to hit and tackle.
Good Ol' I B making another non sequitor: so if a guy bench presses too many lbs he is a thug? Maybe we need to see how much the shooter could press, and whichever benches the most is innocent. Or are they the guilty one? Why bench press and not squat?

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its insane how something of this nature could evolve or devolve into politics
The End
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George zimmerman shot the vile beast after he was apetacked. Trayvon went for zimmermans gun.
Go home to uncle Adolph.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:38 PM   #71
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Here's some more Zimmerman updates that haven't been widely circulated:

Zimmerman called 9-11 Forty-Seven (47) times NOT OVER THE COURSE OF 14 MONTHS but since Jan 2004.

Averages out to be less than once a month. Now, I don't know how long he's been a Neighborhood Patrol Volunteer (nightwatchman) and if he made all those calls while "on-duty" but if he did, I would think that is reasonable.

Its also being reported that Zimmerman's weight is currently 170 lbs, not 240 as widely first reported.

I know, I know, Trayvon is still dead.
I have been involved in neghborhood watch programs on and off for over 20 years. I know they vary a lot, but based upon the ones I'm been active with in three states (including one in FL) one a month--assuming they are actual potential criminal issues--is a lot. Without seeing what the 47 were about it seems high. One of our biggest issues in the ones I was in was over zealous watchmen. To me the most telling comment in all this was in the call when Z was told not to engage but he did. That is the mark of a guy looking to be macho rather than do his part.

His weight seems rather a red herring--170 pounds is quite enough to pull a trigger.

And yes, the bottom line is a teen is dead.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:44 PM   #72
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To most rational people, one rape and one shooting is still too many. But for the sake of argument, since you are obviously not rational, how many rapes or shootings would it take to satisfy your query?
So, out of curiosity, if rational people believe one shooting is too many, and you are fine with the shooting in question, that means you are admitting you are irrational.

About time you admitted it.
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:54 PM   #73
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Good Ol' I B making another non sequitor: so if a guy bench presses too many lbs he is a thug? Maybe we need to see how much the shooter could press, and whichever benches the most is innocent. Or are they the guilty one? Why bench press and not squat?
Old-goaT, it's relevant considering how your ilk reported Zimmerman stood 5’10” and weighed 250 lbs and little o’ Martin was only 14 years old and weighed 140 lbs; therefore, your ilk jumped to the conclusion Martin was too young, too small and too weak to hurt a man Zimmerman's size. Of course that's now been exposed as total BS, since Zimmerman stands 5'8" and weighs only 170 lbs; whereas, Martin stood 6’ and weighed 160 lbs: and guess which one was in better physical shape.

And yes – the bench-press and dead-lift develop upper body strength; whereas, you have a monopoly on not knowing ‘squat shit’ about this topic, since no one said such training automatically makes one a ‘thug’. What it does prove is that Martin was not the small, weak child that you and the press want to project.
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So, out of curiosity, if rational people believe one shooting is too many, and you are fine with the shooting in question, that means you are admitting you are irrational.

About time you admitted it.
Talk about 'non sequitur'. You are lost Old-goaT, completely out of your element.
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To me the most telling comment in all this was in the call when Z was told not to engage but he did.
BTW, Old-goaT, you do not know what Zimmerman did after the 911 operator told him not to follow Martin. Zimmerman reported he was not following Martin when the incident occurred. So you and the MSM can put your clairvoyant powers back in the box until the proper authorities have dealt with the matter.
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:06 PM   #75
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Never claimed to have clairvoyant powers--though to you any logical thought probably seems mystical and superhuman but that's a different matter. I only look at what posters say and what is addressed in the media.

It is clear Z was told not to follow. Magically a kid teleports to attack him? Ever wonder why he would do so? I was not there, but I have seen nothing indicating the kid chased Zimmerman, so a reasonable situation is the Zimmrman kept following him, because I for one do not subscribe to the teleport option or the one that has humans acting like quantum particles.

Your posts about height and weight are meaningless drivel. They (as with the original post about bench pressing weights) is still a red herring. "He's lighter than what the press reported, so he's inocent!" "No, wait a minute, the kid was lighter so HE must be the guilty one!" You bring up a topic and can't even figure out if heavy is good or if heavy is bad. Oh, I see, now you are saying to be in shape is BAD, and a guy who is not in shape is a victim. By the way, do you know what condition Zimmerman is or is not in? Persoanlly I do not know and I don't care, but you seem to believe that he must be out of shape because that increases his victim status.

As to prejudging, I have done none of it as far as Zimmerman goes. As far as the majority of posters on here I don't have to, their comments condemn themselves. The bigots are quite ready to give Zimmerman a medal and declair him a national hero because he shot a thuggish black boy.

If you don't see bias and racial stereotyping in this thread it is only because you don't want to.

And don't waste your electrons telling me that the news media is biased--yep, they sure are. Some overboard one way, some the other. Few care to be objective. But that is not the point of my comments (you don't see me claiming they are any better), but since I'm posting on HERE, my comments are directed to the posters HERE, many of whom look only at skin color to tell who is right and who is wrong--just as they are accusing the press of doing. They just don't agree on which color is which.

You, for example, who say "your ilk" made certain statements when I have never said any such thing. But we have seen on repeated threads that you have zero guilt about putting words in my mouth, do you? You gleefully lie about what I said and go into a childish rant when I call you the liar you are.

On the other hand you ignore when you are called to task based upon your quotes:

IB: "To most rational people, one rape and one shooting is still too many."

Me: "if rational people believe one shooting is too many, and you are fine with the shooting in question, that means you are admitting you are irrational."

IB: Crickets.
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