the vaccination battle continues

[Strokey_McDingDong]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

The elaboration would be the "science" is only partly known, as to the long term effect of the vaccine and the exposure to electronic transmissions (especially as many as there are now).

Maybe we can use microplatics as an analogy, too. Why not?

You think everyone being forced to be exposed to microplastics is a good thing?

You think we should mandate the generation of microplastics?

How about we not make stupid analogies and talk about vaccine mandates, instead.

[FatCity]

another CONSPIRACY here


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...J-vaccine.html
https://archive.is/DupcF
Get your second J&J dose ASAP say health experts after FDA advisory committee recommended approval of checkered vaccine: Protection fell from 88% in March to just 3% in August, study finds
this is what that pretty graph in Post #57 is referencing

get a load of that "efficiency", fellas!

[FatCity]

there are so many intentional pieces to this fuckery to make sure no one can focus on the monte.
The Virus
The Emergency Power
The lockdown
The mask mandate
The Vaccine
The Vaccine vs Herd Immunity
The Vaccine Mandate
The Livelihood/Employer Compliance of Vaccine
The increasingly acceptable ways to pariah the "unvaxxed"


And in all of this, the corporate media has been right behind you, non-stop, pushing and shoving you straight for the abyss



All of these are separate issues entirely and bleed into one another to conveniently obfuscate any discussion. You can derail a discussion on the vaccine by tossing in an assumption about the Emergency Powers and dismiss the global assertion. The "vaccine", isn't even a vaccine, in any traditional sense. Again, when you pollute the data from the start, when there are no standards to set a foundation from, you can remain formless and operate from a position of "just trust me, bro"

[ICU 812]

A lot of non-productive talk about personalities and body parts.

There are solid medical reasons why someone of any aqage should or should not get the shots. Talk to your doctor before doing anything.

I am over 70 and got the shots.

If you are younger than sixty, it may still be a good idea so consult your doctor.

If you have kids in your care, talk with your doctor and think kid vaccinations over very carefully. By all means, get them tested for anti-bodies. They may have had it already. Children can show no symptoms at all or j"ust have a cold."

[FatCity]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Talk to your doctor
Talk to your doctor
Talk to your doctor
Talk to your doctor

already explained how this is not an unbiased authority. There is NO personal physician in the country affiliated with a medical network that won't push the vax. They have financial incentives to get you jabbed, whether you need it or not.

Have there been physicians that argued against the jab? yes....see what happened to them (censored, fired, shunned by big tech)

Originally Posted by ICU 812

can show no symptoms at all or j"ust have a cold."

OMG! the horror
QUICK! shut down the world, alienate everyone you know, obey the government, and inject this experimental jizz into your body or lose your means to earn a living THIS SOUNDS SERIOUS!!
I would hate to contract such deadly virus that I don't know if I have it unless I take a test and its symptoms are "the common cold"




and ALL I'm advocating is weigh the information for yourself instead of mindlessly swallowing every wave of shit from the "news". In fact, do yourself a favor and just TURN OFF THE GODDAMNED TELEVISION


https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/01/03/baloney-detection-kit-carl-sagan/

1. Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the “facts.”
2. Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
3. Arguments from authority carry little weight — “authorities” have made mistakes in the past. They will do so again in the future. Perhaps a better way to say it is that in science there are no authorities; at most, there are experts.
4. Spin more than one hypothesis. If there’s something to be explained, think of all the different ways in which it could be explained. Then think of tests by which you might systematically disprove each of the alternatives. What survives, the hypothesis that resists disproof in this Darwinian selection among “multiple working hypotheses,” has a much better chance of being the right answer than if you had simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
5. Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it’s yours. It’s only a way station in the pursuit of knowledge. Ask yourself why you like the idea. Compare it fairly with the alternatives. See if you can find reasons for rejecting it. If you don’t, others will.
6. Quantify. If whatever it is you’re explaining has some measure, some numerical quantity attached to it, you’ll be much better able to discriminate among competing hypotheses. What is vague and qualitative is open to many explanations. Of course there are truths to be sought in the many qualitative issues we are obliged to confront, but finding them is more challenging.
7. If there’s a chain of argument, every link in the chain must work (including the premise) — not just most of them.
8. Occam’s Razor. This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler.
9. Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified. Propositions that are untestable, unfalsifiable are not worth much. Consider the grand idea that our Universe and everything in it is just an elementary particle — an electron, say — in a much bigger Cosmos. But if we can never acquire information from outside our Universe, is not the idea incapable of disproof? You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.

If you're playing along at home, here's a cheat sheet to help you keep up with the discussion

[Yssup Rider]

Ever catch polio?

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Ever catch polio?

Was Polio made in the Wuhan lab too?

[FatCity]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Ever catch polio?

Polio, Chicken Pox..... vaccinations containing a weak strain of the virus that your body builds a natural immunity against


COVID "Vaccine" = has nothing resembling the disease classified as SARS COVID in it, but an mRNA sequence to modify how your body responds to foreign cellular activity / hijacks your immune system.
In fact, its not even a "vaccine". Comparing Apples to buttfucking


and the "vaccine" hasn't even passed ANY common quality control standards

The only way can get a fast-track FDA emergency use AUTHORIZATION is to ensure there is no other alternative treatment exists. This is why they have been rabid about suppressing Ivermectin, Vitamin C, etc from use or prescription because those would be viable alternatives, and negate an EMERGENCY USE APPROVAL

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by FatCity

already explained how this is not an unbiased authority. There is NO personal physician in the country affiliated with a medical network that won't push the vax. They have financial incentives to get you jabbed, whether you need it or not.

Back in June 96% of physicians surveyed by the American Medical Assiciation had gotten the vaccine. By now 98% have if the unvaccinated in the survey followed through with their intentions.

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-cente...ainst-covid-19

It’s your choice though. Hopefully you’ve already gotten COVID and gotten through it OK, unlike my extremely fit, mid 30’s co-worker who has long haulers syndrome. Because everyone is going to get vaccinated, get the disease, or both. You can get your immunity the easy way or the hard way.

If mRNA vaccines freak you out, you should get the J&J vaccine. And a J&J booster. You don’t have to forgo the apple for a perceived butt fucking, using your analogy.

[Jacuzzme]

Except the immunity of the shot isn’t long lasting, which is why they’re pushing boosters. 6 months from now they’ll be pushing a second booster, then a third, then........ Fuck that, they should just admit it doesn’t work and move on.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Except the immunity of the shot isn’t long lasting, which is why they’re pushing boosters. 6 months from now they’ll be pushing a second booster, then a third, then........ Fuck that, they should just admit it doesn’t work and move on.

Correct.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Back in June 96% of physicians surveyed by the American Medical Assiciation had gotten the vaccine. By now 98% have if the unvaccinated in the survey followed through with their intentions.

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-cente...ainst-covid-19

It’s your choice though. Hopefully you’ve already gotten COVID and gotten through it OK, unlike my extremely fit, mid 30’s co-worker who has long haulers syndrome. Because everyone is going to get vaccinated, get the disease, or both. You can get your immunity the easy way or the hard way.

If mRNA vaccines freak you out, you should get the J&J vaccine. And a J&J booster. You don’t have to forgo the apple for a perceived butt fucking, using your analogy.

I got Covid in March. Sick for 4 days. It wasn’t any worse than what I’ve had before in my life. I guess I was lucky. I know several fully vaccinated people who contracted Covid. Two were hospitalized. Ones still in. I get an antigen test every month. I still have the antibodies. Natural immunity is far better than these shots. But the powers that be don’t admit it. Because natural immunity doesn’t produce profit and control.

[Tiny]

I get a flu vaccine every year and I never get the flu. And the COVID vaccines are a lot more effective than the flu vaccine.

[Yssup Rider]

So do I. I get all the vaccinations. But I disabled the tracking chip using my secret decoder ring and DPST detector.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by bambino

I got Covid in March. Sick for 4 days. It wasn’t any worse than what I’ve had before in my life. I guess I was lucky. I know several fully vaccinated people who contracted Covid. Two where hospitalized. Ones still in. I get an antigen test every month. I still have the antibodies.

Yeah, my brother’s father in law, who was in his early 70’s, overweight and a prolific smoker and drinker died from COVID after getting the vaccine.

I trust the numbers from the Mayo Clinic system, Israeli health ministry, Kaiser Permanente, etc. We can go back and forth with anecdotal stories. The fact is the vaccines work very well.

I’ve gotten three pricks in my arm, have COVID antibodies, and didn’t spend 4 days sick.