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Old 10-29-2015, 04:49 AM   #61
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I am sure that Old-T does lie about almost anything but....
I am impressed! So, you obviously think that using my name, even in a gratuitous insulting way, strengthens your argument by association. Thank you for having such a high opinion of my reputation.
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Old 10-29-2015, 06:14 AM   #62
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I don’t think that any married man is proud of his hobbying behavior. This statement is supported by the use of screen names as aliases. I also think that it is a given that we all fall short of having ideal behavior. Society can be very harsh about what it thinks is right or wrong.

I am guessing that the taboo around sexual behavior grew out of the linkage between having sex and creating a child.

I am married and I hobby. I am not proud of that but the benefits of enjoying sex overwhelms my shame of cheating. Cost benefit analysis yields that hobbying is best for me.
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Old 10-29-2015, 06:56 AM   #63
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Has your wife had the chance to do a cost benefit analysis of you cheating in her?
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Old 10-29-2015, 07:55 AM   #64
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Wakeup is a woman. Sorry for your pain and once you deal with that pain only then can you participate in a good relationship. Always assuming your partner is cheating, lieing, or being a scum will not give you what you seek. Get over the pain and stop being weak as a woman or as a person. You gave your opinion we all read it now be strong and step away and take what comments come "you posted it" be a strong person and take the fallout or be weak and keep repeating opinion. I know several women that use that tactic, wear out the man until he just wants peace and concedes not because he believes her point but because he just wants her to shut the fuck up. Why is it always the man that has to have the conversation if a wife changes the contract by no longer "cherishing" her man why is it that she should come to the husband and say "Look I don't want to fuck any more, is that okay?" or "I know we when were dating I acted like I loved sucking your dick and I don't want to do that any more." or "I used to want you to be happy even sexually, but sir your happiness is no longer of my concern." or just tell the man why she does not want to fuck and see if they can work it out. Women do not ever admit to wrong doing especially in the heat of battle. And see if that change of contract is okay with her man.
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Old 10-29-2015, 07:59 AM   #65
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I think it's different for me. Well, I guess the answer is that I'm trying to make up for lost time. In middle/high school I was VERY shy, especially around women. I had some real self-confidence issues. I've mostly grown out of that, although I'm still pretty introverted. The result of this is that I had several long-term relationships, but many of them were bad, and most weren't with the types of women I've always fantasized about being with.

It went like this: Fat crazy girl, Spinner with A cup who was a dead fish, Skinny girl with huge tits who got fat quick (like 100 lb in 6 months!), a mega-hottie who was super horny and sexually adventurous but who gave the worst blow jobs known to man and did drugs...

Mixed in here were some missed opportunities that I regret hugely. My best friend in high school was a hot girl next door who was a horndog, but due to my inexperience and shyness, I got friendzoned and could never get her to fuck me. I dated a high school girl briefly who was also a horndog, who offered to fuck me if I came over to her parent's house one day while they were out. She broke up with me when I declined to call in sick to work to do it. I thought I would lose my (first) job. Should've called in. She was really hot then. While I was dating the curvy girl who got really fat, I was offered the chance to sleep with this amazingly hot asian/mixed chick. OMG. She was gorgeous. Turned it down to be faithful to my newly fat girlfriend.

There were a few other times where I clearly had chemistry with someone at a bar or something and should've pursued it and it probably would've led somewhere. But again, I was foiled by my own shyness and inexperience. Oddly, it took the hottie druggie girl to boost my confidence and over the course of that relationship, I really matured quite a bit and became a confident healthy person (as much as any of us are, haha).

So why all that story and why am I here? I guess because I regret all those missed opportunities. I've only had 2 hobby experiences in the 4 years I've been doing this. I thought I'd be done by now honestly, but neither of those experiences has lived up to my expectations. I'm considering giving up the hobby even, because I'm not sure my expectations can ever be met through providers, but I think I still have some hope.

So, I'm basically here because I never got to fuck a perfect 10, hot and horny stacked blonde spinner. And I want to. I really want to.

My first hobby experience I thought I found her. She was VERY well reviewed. Hot body. Met her. Butterface. Super nice though and hot body, so I went through with it anyways. It was nice. Not perfect, but nice.

My second one was a well reviewed girl from a board. Again, foiled on the appearance. Pics weren't as good as they appeared. Her hair was frizzy, not gorgeously styled, and her face was a 6/10 with a 8.5/10 body.

So the search continues. Do I really need to check off just the "hot blonde supermodel who is not a dead fish" box? Or, do I need more. Do I need to fuck the hot asian chick? Black girl? Indian? Where does it end? I don't know, but I think I'd be happy with the hot blonde and would probably call it quits after that.

Oh wait. Nope. Forgot about the 3 some fantasy. I might want to do more girls than that in the future. I love those reverse gangbang videos where there's one guy and like 5-6 girls all lined up with their asses in the air, and the dude fucks one, then moves to the next, then the next. Like comparing pussies. For science. Again, the idea of getting to fuck all the girls I didn't get to while I was growing up. At once. Then I'd be done.
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Old 10-29-2015, 08:01 AM   #66
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Where did I ever admit that the wife has done no wrong? I have no evidence one way or another that they have violated the contract. Y'all are giving the evidence that you're breaking the contract, so you get whats coming to you...

P.S.-No wife ever signed up for a contract that says that sex is guaranteed to their husband whenever they want it...just sayin'...
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:36 AM   #67
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P.S.-No wife ever signed up for a contract that says that sex is guaranteed to their husband whenever they want it...just sayin'...


Lets add the caveat that no husband ever signed up for a contract that the marriage would be sexless .... and I agree with AB you are definately a jilted woman tossing out virulent character judgement out like mardi gras beads ... I happened to be on the other end of the monogamy spectrum I came here post divorce and post relationship because my experience with women on the relationship side was fickle money grubbing faithless bitches ... so to me the business here is honest business where for the most part both parties get what they contract for ... asshole .... hahaha that last bit was for the grammar police incase they wished to get on to me for ending the statement with a preposition ... bottom line for me is no one knows what everyone else's situation is ... WU you gave your opinion AB has his and I think its safe to say neither of you will ever find agreeable common ground no the subject
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:52 AM   #68
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Can you read? albundy said his wife does not fuck him any more. Fact! not opinion. I get what you are saying he should speak to his wife before violating his contract, your opinion. I say she should have spoken to him about breaking her contract by not fucking him. And where did you read that these husbands demand their wives fuck them whenever they want it. They are saying they get NONE! Wives will not do what they contracted to and men are not doing what they contracted to do. Some men come here to get their needs met, some talk to their wives, some get divorced. Just as some people can state their opinion and move on, some people try to help, some what to act as they know everything and some people just don't know when to shut up. All kinds of people here.
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:28 AM   #69
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You expect me to believe the guy who is trying to defend cheating on his wife when he says she doesn't have sex with him anymore? Heh, let me know how that works out for you...

There is no defense for cheating on your wife. You either get her to approve you doing it, or get a divorce...anything else is just being a pussy...

P.S.-All you guys who think I'm a woman crack me up. You actually think that it's not possible for a man to disagree with another man cheating on their wife. Your weakness is showing again...

P.P.S.-Feel free to send a PM to my wife and ask her if I'm a man...now THAT'LL be interesting!
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:04 AM   #70
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WTF, in this world according to the almighty WHOM, why do you think it is your place to judge everyone here according to their needs and desires, how they go about it, the reasoning for it, and what makes you think you are right?

The marriage license I signed said nothing about monogamy or any other such nonsense. It wasn't implied, and I didn't agree to it at any point. We didn't discuss it either, and I doubt many people do. Why do you assume it's implied in every situation?

So, who are you to judge so harshly and tell everyone what is right and what is wrong for them, no matter the reasoning they use. Why is it your place? Were you appointed the hooker and hooker monger moral judge by some higher being? Just curious, because you seem adamant and confident in your right to judge so many and explain the right and wrong of their actions, however, your yet proven authority and reasoning have nothing to back them up. What's up with that and why should anyone live their life by what appears to be your own self imposed rules and restrictions that maybe aren't even your own beliefs at all, but rather what has been imposed on you as well, by a society which has a stick up it's butt anyway?
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:10 AM   #71
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I think this thread may have gotten off-track

I think many reasons married men seek the company of a lady are often likely the same reasons single men do. It fills a need or desire.

I thought the OP wanted to know those needs or desires.

However, in an open discussion, opinions are expressed. And discussions take unexpected turns.

I also think the characteristics of men who cheat are not what the OP was asking. If a discussion regarding the Character of a person who cheats is desired, maybe a new thread should be started. I also don’t think the OP was asking what a married man should or shouldn’t do.

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For those interested in the reasons --- Here’s what I’ve found so far ---

Married men cheat because ---- sex, more sex, romance, variety, strange, oral, loneliness issues, affirmation of independence, feeling of appreciation, it’s man’s nature, because a guy can, “pissed off at wife”, choosing to fuck a beautiful lady over self-jerking, desire to fuck the elusive “Perfect 10”.
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I am impressed! So, you obviously think that using my name, even in a gratuitous insulting way, strengthens your argument by association. Thank you for having such a high opinion of my reputation.

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If ever I have made such a blatant typo it was here and so I must apologize.This was to have said Doesn't not does and I hope that I have not changed the way others look at Old-T or altered your reputation on this board.
You have always told it as it is and I respect you for that. (As much as one can on a hooker board LOL) Once again I am so sorry for disrespecting you and I can only hope that posting this humble apology here and in the personals columns of the top 25 major newspapers in the US will allow this minor oversight to be forgiven and forgotten without the need to take it any further.

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P.S. I feel there may be some validity in the Wake up argument. I just received this picture of Wake Up from Valerie; You make your own decision.


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All of these comments are on track, except probably the comments saying I'm a woman. My statement has always been that men cheat on their wives because they're weak, selfish, scared children who have no idea how to manage their impulses and desires, while at the same time ignoring the desires of their wives, and no justifications they make for it are valid. Simple.

Maxi, I have every right to judge. I'm here, I read the question, and I answered it. If the OP didn't want his question answered, he shouldn't have asked it. I'm happy that your marriage is open, honest, and you and our husband are free to fuck whoever you want. I have no problem with that at all. I have a problem with the guys who "cheat" on their wives...not the guys who fuck other women besides their wives. One implies consent on her part, one doesn't.

P.S.-I'm not that old...
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All of these comments are on track, except probably the comments saying I'm a woman. My statement has always been that men cheat on their wives because they're weak, selfish, scared children who have no idea how to manage their impulses and desires, while at the same time ignoring the desires of their wives. Simple.

Maxi, I have every right to judge. I'm here, I read the question, and I answered it. If the OP didn't want his question answered, he shouldn't have asked it. I'm happy that your marriage is open, honest, and you and our husband are free to fuck whoever you want. I have no problem with that at all. I have a problem with the guys who "cheat" on their wives...not the guys who fuck other women besides their wives. One implies consent on her part, one doesn't.

P.S.-I'm not that old...
I'm not married and haven't been for over twenty years. Infidelity had nothing to do with it, although he was unfaithful more than once and I was not.

You didn't answer his question, you just judged everyone. Why do You have a problem with it and what makes you think your reasoning is the right one? Why should it affect you at all?
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I think it's different for me. Well, I guess the answer is that I'm trying to make up for lost time. In middle/high school I was VERY shy, especially around women. I had some real self-confidence issues. I've mostly grown out of that, although I'm still pretty introverted. The result of this is that I had several long-term relationships, but many of them were bad, and most weren't with the types of women I've always fantasized about being with.

It went like this: Fat crazy girl, Spinner with A cup who was a dead fish, Skinny girl with huge tits who got fat quick (like 100 lb in 6 months!), a mega-hottie who was super horny and sexually adventurous but who gave the worst blow jobs known to man and did drugs...

Mixed in here were some missed opportunities that I regret hugely. My best friend in high school was a hot girl next door who was a horndog, but due to my inexperience and shyness, I got friendzoned and could never get her to fuck me. I dated a high school girl briefly who was also a horndog, who offered to fuck me if I came over to her parent's house one day while they were out. She broke up with me when I declined to call in sick to work to do it. I thought I would lose my (first) job. Should've called in. She was really hot then. While I was dating the curvy girl who got really fat, I was offered the chance to sleep with this amazingly hot asian/mixed chick. OMG. She was gorgeous. Turned it down to be faithful to my newly fat girlfriend.

There were a few other times where I clearly had chemistry with someone at a bar or something and should've pursued it and it probably would've led somewhere. But again, I was foiled by my own shyness and inexperience. Oddly, it took the hottie druggie girl to boost my confidence and over the course of that relationship, I really matured quite a bit and became a confident healthy person (as much as any of us are, haha).

So why all that story and why am I here? I guess because I regret all those missed opportunities. I've only had 2 hobby experiences in the 4 years I've been doing this. I thought I'd be done by now honestly, but neither of those experiences has lived up to my expectations. I'm considering giving up the hobby even, because I'm not sure my expectations can ever be met through providers, but I think I still have some hope.

So, I'm basically here because I never got to fuck a perfect 10, hot and horny stacked blonde spinner. And I want to. I really want to.

My first hobby experience I thought I found her. She was VERY well reviewed. Hot body. Met her. Butterface. Super nice though and hot body, so I went through with it anyways. It was nice. Not perfect, but nice.

My second one was a well reviewed girl from a board. Again, foiled on the appearance. Pics weren't as good as they appeared. Her hair was frizzy, not gorgeously styled, and her face was a 6/10 with a 8.5/10 body.

So the search continues. Do I really need to check off just the "hot blonde supermodel who is not a dead fish" box? Or, do I need more. Do I need to fuck the hot asian chick? Black girl? Indian? Where does it end? I don't know, but I think I'd be happy with the hot blonde and would probably call it quits after that.

Oh wait. Nope. Forgot about the 3 some fantasy. I might want to do more girls than that in the future. I love those reverse gangbang videos where there's one guy and like 5-6 girls all lined up with their asses in the air, and the dude fucks one, then moves to the next, then the next. Like comparing pussies. For science. Again, the idea of getting to fuck all the girls I didn't get to while I was growing up. At once. Then I'd be done.
Good luck with that one chap. You might just not be in the right market but there are definitely high quality stunners that give you the girlfriend experience for a fair price. Eccie alone has showcase after showcase of girls with stunning beauty. P411 and TER are also great places to find the stunners.
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