Golden Pussy Syndrome

[Smpslt7]

I acknowledge no such thing. You misunderstand my point. The person I quoted was disrespecting wives by equating them to providers, who he also disrespects.

Sex work is indeed work, I agree. And dangerous work. But just because some of your married friends practice open relationships, swinging and the such, that does not mean that most people are the same way. Most married women accept a monogamous relationship in exchange for love, security and comfort.

Love is a beautiful aspiration. And there is indeed more to marriage than love alone. I speak from 43 years experience.

[spa999]

Absatively, Eva. Men marry women who are utter duds in bed, not at all GGG, take men's money then bitch and whine abt the men for it. Marriage is clearly a female invention.

As to cheating, women are as bad or worse, just usu better abt hiding it. Why do either men or women sign onto rel'ps that LIMIT their options AND fail miserably at fulfilling their needs and wants? Women do it for the money and are still miserable. Men do it bc apparently, some are either hopeless romantics, not too bright, or both.

My sex and relationship satisfaction has fairly skyrocketed since ejecting my extra baggage and taking up banging hookers and casuals. They of course fuck and have rel'ps of all kinds with others. Going poly and doing pay for play has been a total success and much cheaper than marriage.

This whole timeline I'm on could've been avoided if my ex had just taken my advice and 1) lost 150 lbs. and 2) started dating/fucking other guys. We'd still be married, enjoying a hot sex life, doing 3somes and 4somes, etc. She could be going off on vacation or weekends away with a boyfriend or two getting fucked hard by someone not her husband (ie, me) while I stay here having threesomes w/ my 2 favorite hookers/gfs/both, but no, she had to stay a fat uptight possessive paranoid bitch. So I jettisoned her. Best move I ever made. Never should have married her.

If I ever re-marry, it'll be to a hooker who has no intention of stopping. Getting sloppies on her nightly would be the total BALLZ. Why tf men want to marry "chaste", uptight women, I have no idea. Been my experience that hookers by and large make pretty good mothers, too, so long as they avoid "bad choices" in life.

"You're 14 now so we can tell you... son, your mother's a whore. That's how we met. Mom's not a B shift secretary at a bank. She's been turning tricks since before you were born. And, I may not actually be your father. Now before she leaves to do a doubles with your 'Aunt Tracy', and yes, she too is a whore, do you have any questions?"

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

Welp, we all agree, then. Marriage is a form of providing. Just less BJ and wayyyy more of a financial burden.

[Smpslt7]

Originally Posted by spa999

Absatively, Eva. Men marry women who are utter duds in bed, not at all GGG, take men's money then bitch and whine abt the men for it. Marriage is clearly a female invention.

WOW, you are so wrong. Marriage was originally a MALE invention, put in place to establish the woman as the property of the man, and to establish paternal parentage of any children.

As for your comment about men marrying women who are duds in bed, that's totally irrational. My wife was no dud in bed, but after menopause and hitting 65, her libido is just not what it was.

As to cheating, women are as bad or worse, just usu better abt hiding it. Why do either men or women sign onto rel'ps that LIMIT their options AND fail miserably at fulfilling their needs and wants? Women do it for the money and are still miserable. Men do it bc apparently, some are either hopeless romantics, not too bright, or both.

I bet you lack credible evidence to support your claim.

My sex and relationship satisfaction has fairly skyrocketed since ejecting my extra baggage and taking up banging hookers and casuals. They of course fuck and have rel'ps of all kinds with others. Going poly and doing pay for play has been a total success and much cheaper than marriage.

This whole timeline I'm on could've been avoided if my ex had just taken my advice and 1) lost 150 lbs. and 2) started dating/fucking other guys. We'd still be married, enjoying a hot sex life, doing 3somes and 4somes, etc. She could be going off on vacation or weekends away with a boyfriend or two getting fucked hard by someone not her husband (ie, me) while I stay here having threesomes w/ my 2 favorite hookers/gfs/both, but no, she had to stay a fat uptight possessive paranoid bitch. So I jettisoned her. Best move I ever made. Never should have married her.

If I ever re-marry, it'll be to a hooker who has no intention of stopping. Getting sloppies on her nightly would be the total BALLZ. Why tf men want to marry "chaste", uptight women, I have no idea. Been my experience that hookers by and large make pretty good mothers, too, so long as they avoid "bad choices" in life.

"You're 14 now so we can tell you... son, your mother's a whore. That's how we met. Mom's not a B shift secretary at a bank. She's been turning tricks since before you were born. And, I may not actually be your father. Now before she leaves to do a doubles with your 'Aunt Tracy', and yes, she too is a whore, do you have any questions?"

I find it sad that your outlook is so jaded because of your unfortunate life experience. But don't project that to the general population. We all hobby for different reasons.

[pyramider]

How is he so jaded? I spend a lot of time having sex with wives. These are wives that the husbands often ignore. They like to give me gifts, too. Gifts that some fucktard on a SHMB in the end paid for.

Originally Posted by Smpslt7

Disagree. Wives are NOT the same as escorts. True, they trade their favors for security, house, car, etc., but they generally commit to their spouses, and don't offer themselves to every monger that comes along. I mean no disrespect to providers, but I also don't want to see disrespect heaped upon wives.

You are correct. the providers' transaction is a much more honest transaction.

Originally Posted by Smpslt7

I acknowledge no such thing. You misunderstand my point. The person I quoted was disrespecting wives by equating them to providers, who he also disrespects.

To all of the providers on icky and other SHMBs:

Please accept my humble apology with equating your business practices to those of wives. For this transgression I humbly seek your forgiveness.

pyramider

Sex work is indeed work, I agree. And dangerous work. But just because some of your married friends practice open relationships, swinging and the such, that does not mean that most people are the same way. Most married women accept a monogamous relationship in exchange for love, security and comfort.

No they don't, see my comment at the top of this post.

Love is a beautiful aspiration. And there is indeed more to marriage than love alone. I speak from 43 years experience.

Then why are you on a SHMB? Does your wife of 43 years know, and approve, of you seeing providers?

[Smpslt7]

I won't argue with someone that cannot exchange differences in opinions without name calling. You obviously didn't read or understand my post. Try again. But I'm done with you.

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by spa999

Absatively, Eva. Men marry women who are utter duds in bed, not at all GGG, take men's money then bitch and whine abt the men for it. Marriage is clearly a female invention.

As to cheating, women are as bad or worse, just usu better abt hiding it. Why do either men or women sign onto rel'ps that LIMIT their options AND fail miserably at fulfilling their needs and wants? Women do it for the money and are still miserable. Men do it bc apparently, some are either hopeless romantics, not too bright, or both.

My sex and relationship satisfaction has fairly skyrocketed since ejecting my extra baggage and taking up banging hookers and casuals. They of course fuck and have rel'ps of all kinds with others. Going poly and doing pay for play has been a total success and much cheaper than marriage.

This whole timeline I'm on could've been avoided if my ex had just taken my advice and 1) lost 150 lbs. and 2) started dating/fucking other guys. We'd still be married, enjoying a hot sex life, doing 3somes and 4somes, etc. She could be going off on vacation or weekends away with a boyfriend or two getting fucked hard by someone not her husband (ie, me) while I stay here having threesomes w/ my 2 favorite hookers/gfs/both, but no, she had to stay a fat uptight possessive paranoid bitch. So I jettisoned her. Best move I ever made. Never should have married her.

If I ever re-marry, it'll be to a hooker who has no intention of stopping. Getting sloppies on her nightly would be the total BALLZ. Why tf men want to marry "chaste", uptight women, I have no idea. Been my experience that hookers by and large make pretty good mothers, too, so long as they avoid "bad choices" in life.

"You're 14 now so we can tell you... son, your mother's a whore. That's how we met. Mom's not a B shift secretary at a bank. She's been turning tricks since before you were born. And, I may not actually be your father. Now before she leaves to do a doubles with your 'Aunt Tracy', and yes, she too is a whore, do you have any questions?"

Here Comes The Devil in me playing The Advocate:

So what if we were to take out the monetary aspect of this and women were to just be sexually liberated and screw whoever they wanted to and as many men as they wanted to? Unlike men, women do not receive pats on the back for being a Mack Daddy or a Player.

Would you sit there and tell your son who is 14 that his mother just screws because she's a sex addict? Or maybe she's not a sex addict maybe she just likes to have sex with the variety of men and women. I think not. Why? Because it is adult content in nature, not for children's ears.

It's quite obvious the monetary aspect causes Society to perceive a woman's morality so much more "lowly" than if she had sex with every Tom Dick and Harry.

If I were the girl next door having unprotected sex with every Tom Dick and Harry, at the clinic every day as a walking and talking health hazard for the general population, I would be merely labeled as a "slut/floozy/human mattress/etc" but heaven forbid a *whore (gasp).


Seems like we're (women) damned if we do. Damned if we don't.


I suppose the only option would be to keep a grain of rice balanced between the knees per the responses here.

[Smpslt7]

Great thread Eva with lots of revealing responses.

There is definitely a double standard in play. Unfortunate.

Best wishes to you.

James

[pyramider]

Where was there any name calling? Your reading comprehension is lacking.

[papadee]

Originally Posted by pyramider

In some regard wives and girlfriends are the same as escorts. Maybe they do not take cash but the house, car, insurance, standard of living costs someone some cash. So your wife is a high dollar hooker ... one that does not fuck and suck or you would not see providers or be on icky.

In no regards unless the man and woman want that type of relationship. Today's women don't buy cars, homes, insurance with their own cash? I guess Stedman is providing Oprah her standard of living.... yeah right.

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by papadee

In no regards unless the man and woman want that type of relationship. Today's women don't buy cars, homes, insurance with their own cash? I guess Stedman is providing Oprah her standard of living.... yeah right.

C'mon now...the average woman is not making Oprah money,believe me. That was not a general example. We are talking about women who are still in the middle class tax bracket. Let us acknowledge that the middle class ranges from nearly impoverished to nearly wealthy but not quite. The MIDDLE class.

[FireKitten]

Mmmmm.....

https://www.fona.com/resource-center...ng-power-women
and much of that is initially from their own money, more true now even of the younger women.

And this http://nymag.com/betamale/2016/05/wo...sequences.html

If you think married/committed women are not cheating hardly, think again. Don't make me look up the other related articles, but the trend is close to 60% of all partners admitting to true cheating. Don't delude yourself about wives being so pure; that makes me laugh.


I'd be annoyed by the "unskilled" comment, too. There may not be a school for it, but anyone who is GOOD at sex, pays attention and learns. For this hobby, there have been countless hours spent trying to understand techniques, attractiveness, marketing, medical obstructions, age issues, hygiene, customer service, worldly culture, relationships, diseases, toys, mental health, and other things related. Any lady worth her salt here and takes this seriously, is investing in her non BCD time, in making her clock time be the best experience that she knows how to offer, when she is face to face with a stranger.


The GPS is mostly an attitude, rarely attached to the dollar amount being charged, in most environments. The dollar amount is determined more by her personal needs, and preferences, which usually aren't explained in detail, and shouldn't have to be. Perceived value drives both sides.

[papadee]

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

C'mon now...the average woman is not making Oprah money,believe me. That was not a general example. We are talking about women who are still in the middle class tax bracket. Let us acknowledge that the middle class ranges from nearly impoverished to nearly wealthy but not quite. The MIDDLE class.

C'mon now... You focused on my hyperbole and missed the crux of my post.

Today's women buy cars, homes, insurance with their own cash.
Those are middle class women. From professionals to factory workers. Many who have dropped their men for leeching off them. I guess with your worldview, the men were "pimps", living off the earnings of their "escorts".

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by papadee

C'mon now... You focused on my hyperbole and missed the crux of my post.

Today's women buy cars, homes, insurance with their own cash.
Those are middle class women. From professionals to factory workers. Many who have dropped their men for leeching off them. I guess with your worldview, the men were "pimps", living off the earnings of their "escorts".

Exactly what this thread in its entirety is about, but it went completely over your head. If you read my entire posting history in this thread I support that women have access to those assets on their own. I'm in complete agreement with you. I'm starting to think you want to create rebuttals just to create them. Im not ignoring the fact that women purchase cars and houses and insurance Etc. *This is the entire reason why I acknowledge careers, which is a very direct indication of women having access to their own Financial sustainability. I suppose if I expanded on the matter ... but What's Understood doesn't have to be spoken so I thought.

But I'll disagree with you if you just want to keep making rebuttals and that way, you'll have a reason to post your rebuttals legitimately. This Thread nearly in its entirety is about women having their own access to their needs already, hence their higher than Market rates(exclamation mark).

Sweet Jesus! Now THIS is emotional labor at it's finest engaging like this to and fro.

[papadee]

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

Exactly. If you read my entire posting history in this thread I support that women have access to those assets on their own. I'm in complete agreement with you. I'm starting to think you want to create rebuttals just to create them. Im not ommitting the fact that women purchase cars and houses and insurance Etc. This is the entire reason why I mentioned careers which is a very direct indication of women having access to their own Financial sustainability.

But I'll disagree with you if you just want to keep making rebuttals and that way you'll have a reason post your rebuttals legitimately

Sweet Jesus! Now THIS is emotional labor at it's finest engaging like this to and fro.

If you're in complete agreement with me, why would you write: the average woman is not making Oprah money,believe me. That was not a general example. We are talking about women who are still in the middle class tax bracket.

Since we were discussing women needing men for money, I inferred from that and your other postings, that unless a woman is independent and/or wealthy, she's with a man for his money. Escorts/GF/Wives are all one in the same. And no, we're not in complete agreement on that.

More of your quotes, so maybe you'll understand where I'm coming from:
Bottom line there is some sexual activity being done for something. That can be sustainability, money, etc,
Married with a Pre-nup. She sucks a dick on holidays and owns, or at least has unlimited access to his assets.
Women are props
Marriage is a form of providing. Just less BJ and wayyyy more of a financial burden.

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by papadee

If you're in complete agreement with me, why would you write: the average woman is not making Oprah money,believe me. That was not a general example. We are talking about women who are still in the middle class tax bracket.

Since we were discussing women needing men for money, I inferred from that and your other postings, that unless a woman is independent and/or wealthy, she's with a man for his money. Escorts/GF/Wives are all one in the same. And no, we're not in complete agreement on that.

More of your quotes, so maybe you'll understand where I'm coming from:
Bottom line there is some sexual activity being done for something. That can be sustainability, money, etc,
Married with a Pre-nup. She sucks a dick on holidays and owns, or at least has unlimited access to his assets.
Women are props
Marriage is a form of providing. Just less BJ and wayyyy more of a financial burden.

Have a good day, as well as remarkable evening!