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Guest102513-1 · 11-03-2012, 02:34 AM

To all that have served in the military...a heart felt thanks

Political thought...I bet if we had a draft today, and everyone's son or daughter was at risked to serve overseas...we would not be so quick to put "boots on the ground" just because some political (Dem or Rep) says so

I know, there is no way a true draft would ever start again...but just a thought

Guest040616 · 11-03-2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by vkmaster

I know, there is no way a true draft would ever start again...but just a thought

I was not a draftee, I joined. I must admit that I was one who felt that an All Volunteer Army was a mistake, but I was proven wrong. I got out of the Army at about the time the draft ended. At that time, I had serious doubts that the Army would be able to sustain the numbers needed without the continued infusion of draftees.

I am not going to say that the draft will never be reinstated but I will say that it will take an extraordinary set of circumstances for it to occur again.

I B Hankering · 11-03-2012, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Oddly, right, IBCrying hasn't come forth with at least his training unit, base and tour.

.that makes him a lying sack of shit, unworthy of our attention.

You earned it.m Either put up and denounce your dishonor towards all of us who served and put our lives on the line so worthless sacks of shit like you can live underground...or retract your cowardice.

Fuck you, Assup!!! If you think anyone on this board is obligated to out themselves for your miserable ass you are sadly mistaken. You're a fucking ass-wipe that has never published under your own name; thus, revealing your name, rank, MOS and unit that can be cross-referenced with a rudimentary internet search. So STFU, jackass!!! It ain't goinna happen!!!

Randy4Candy · 11-03-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LovingKayla

I can always count on you for crazy, wdf

I find it incredibly fascinating those that have served are all democrats. That's something to think about. Maybe you all really are right.

I'll borrow a bit here from your daddy, Marshall Choom Czar - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA!

Like you thinking that "maybe" we "really" are "right" as if...

Anyhow, just keep to the mantra of the Tea Party Parrotriots: "Never Let Facts Get In The Way Of What You Think You Know"

Yssup Rider · 11-03-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Fuck you, Assup!!! If you think anyone on this board is obligated to out themselves for your miserable ass you are sadly mistaken. You're a fucking ass-wipe that has never published under your own name; thus, revealing your name, rank, MOS and unit that can be cross-referenced with a rudimentary internet search. So STFU, jackass!!! It ain't goinna happen!!!

Just as I thought.

A FRAUD!

I B Hankering · 11-03-2012, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Just as I thought.

A FRAUD!

You posting that "you think" is a fraud, Assup.

Randy4Candy · 11-03-2012, 08:19 AM

Well, ibby, you're one of the masters of going with what you think over what is known, so I'll have to go with your conclusion since you can recognise what you do.

i'va biggen · 11-03-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Fuck you, Assup!!! If you think anyone on this board is obligated to out themselves for your miserable ass you are sadly mistaken. You're a fucking ass-wipe that has never published under your own name; thus, revealing your name, rank, MOS and unit that can be cross-referenced with a rudimentary internet search. So STFU, jackass!!! It ain't goinna happen!!!

Now it all comes clear you have made too many jumps without the chute on...

Yssup Rider · 11-03-2012, 09:06 AM

Fraud.

I B Hankering · 11-03-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ekim008

Now it all comes clear you have made too many jumps without the chute on...

An FYI, did not claim and do not claim to be "jump" qualified. Suffice it to say, that corps level is as far down the TO&E as you'll know -- and that's more than you "need" to know.

I B Hankering · 11-03-2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Fraud.

You're an ignorant fucking moron, Assup.

LexusLover · 11-03-2012, 09:53 AM

IB .. let it go, he ain't worth it. Where's his birth certificate anyway?

He's just another internet Chihuahua.

Jackie S · 11-03-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtex

I was not a draftee, I joined. I must admit that I was one who felt that an All Volunteer Army was a mistake, but I was proven wrong. I got out of the Army at about the time the draft ended. At that time, I had serious doubts that the Army would be able to sustain the numbers needed without the continued infusion of draftees.

I am not going to say that the draft will never be reinstated but I will say that it will take an extraordinary set of circumstances for it to occur again.

BigTex, one of the problems with the All Volunteer Army is we now have in reality, a Mercenary Army. In short, we pay those who are willing to do our fighting for us so we are bothered as little as possible by the entire senario. God help us if we should miss an episode of Keeping Up With The Kardasheans.

The last two wars have been perfect examples. Aside from perhaps knowing someone in the Service,, or having a familly member who has been killed or injured, the only way that the vast majority of Citizens even know there is a war going on is what they see on the news. Every one of us, if honest, can ask ourselves, have we missed ANYTHING during the past 15 years that we have been in real live shooting wars.

We are nothing special in this. Most great civilizations of the past ended up doing the same thing, The Romans being the prime example. They started out lean and hungry, even had rules stating that only Romans of Property could serve in the Legions.In the end, if you could fog a mirror, they signed you up.

I am no big proponent of the draft. I was drafted, and we were not really good soldiers. Of course, my war, Vietnam, was a bad war. It's difficult enough instilling into a bunch of 19 year olds the concept of honor and duty when nobody could even tell what the hell we were doing there in the first place.

i'va biggen · 11-03-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by I B Hankering

An FYI, did not claim and do not claim to be "jump" qualified. Suffice it to say, that corps level is as far down the TO&E as you'll know -- and that's more than you "need" to know.

Was trying to complement you as you were the company clerk...

Guest102513-1 · 11-03-2012, 11:54 AM

I mean no disrespect, to those who volunteer into the military...but I totally agree with Jackie S, in terms of
that for the majority of Citzens, saying "We support are troops" (which we do) but then have very little on the line, because our son, daughter, brother, sister, father, or ourselves, etc. are not in the military...and then being more interested in the NFL scoreboard.

i know that re-instating the draft, is probably never going to happen. But if it were in place...and we all shared the risk of being involved in fighting, perhaps we as a society would be far less likely to support wars unless they truly effect our national security.

Sadly, it is far easier to send young men and women to war, that we have no direct connection with...than risk the blood of our faimily and friends

I'm not trashing those who currently serve. I just wonder how our nation would be far more prone to question our politicans (on both sides) when they start beating the war drums.