This cannot be possible. Election fraud isn’t real, say the libtards and the media

[HDGristle]

And in PA, there's a nice, broad list of acceptable ID options.

Approved forms of photo identification include:

• Pennsylvania driver’s license or PennDOT
• ID card
• ID issued by any Commonwealth agency
• ID issued by the U.S. Government
• U.S. passport
• U.S. Armed Forces ID
• Student ID
• Employee ID

If you do not have a photo ID, you can use a non-photo identification that includes your name and address.

• Confirmation issued by the County Voter Registration Office
• Non-photo ID issued by the Commonwealth
• Non-photo ID issued by the U.S. Government
• Firearm permit
• Current utility bill
• Current bank statement
• Current paycheck
• Government check

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

There needs to be balance between easy access to vote and election security. Let's have the convo in the middle rather than out on the fringes.

Problem is - when 1) Election Day has been expanded into Election Month, when 2) dim-retards refuse to clean up out-of-date state voter registration rolls, when 3) unsolicited ballots are mailed out to every person at every address on those outdated rolls, when 4) millions of "Zuck bucks" are showered on dim-retard "activists" to run around "harvesting" ballots from the elderly and incapacitated who are not intensely partisan but are "assisted" by those who are, when 5) unsupervised 24-hour drop boxes are made ubiquitous, and when 6) partisan dim-retard judges on state Supreme courts violate the US Constitution by over-turning rules lawfully prescribed by state legislatures to govern the "time, place and manner" of each state's vote - then WE'RE ALREADY OUT ON THE FUCKING FRINGES!!!

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

PA laws; you need some sort of acceptable ID to register, BUT NOT when you vote- I normally produce my ID, but it's not required. What if someone's ID expires, or is lost. Should they loose the right to vote?

It should be required EVERY TIME you vote. Period. That is how you prevent voter fraud. Otherwise you have people voting as a dead person, or as someone incapacitated or whatever.

It is plenty easy to get an ID in PA. Just as easy to renew one or replace one if lost.

Voter fraud is real. It's been proven much to the chagrin of the braindead libtards who bury their heads in the sand about it

The only people who are against this common sense step to greatly reduce voter fraud are libtards - because they know it will limit their ability to cheat in elections. And libtards need to cheat - just like Fetterman wants to cheat !!!

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Problem is - when 1) Election Day has been expanded into Election Month, when 2) dim-retards refuse to clean up out-of-date state voter registration rolls, when 3) unsolicited ballots are mailed out to every person at every address on those outdated rolls, when 4) millions of "Zuck bucks" are showered on dim-retard "activists" to run around "harvesting" ballots from the elderly and incapacitated who are not intensely partisan but are "assisted" by those who are, when 5) unsupervised 24-hour drop boxes are made ubiquitous, and when 6) partisan dim-retard judges on state Supreme courts violate the US Constitution by over-turning rules lawfully prescribed by state legislatures to govern the "time, place and manner" of each state's vote - then WE'RE ALREADY OUT ON THE FUCKING FRINGES!!!

Sounds less like looking towards constructive solutions both sides can agree on and more like whining, name-calling and scapegoating.

[Salty Again]

... And WE were doing SO WELL...

... I kinda agree-with Gristle here.

Why dont' we TRY to quit-with the bullshit little party insults
- "dim-retards" and republi-shits" and what-not.

And just post our views and opinions.
That's what I'M interested in.

#### Salty

[Jacuzzme]

What if someone's ID expires, or is lost. Should they loose the right to vote?

Yes.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Yes.

Would you accept an expired U.S. passport as proof of citizenship?

If not, why not?

[Devo]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Would you accept an expired U.S. passport as proof of citizenship?

If not, why not?

You cannot purchase a firearm with expired ID, and its a god given and civilly protected right.

Further, only state issued or military is acceptable, no bills or the other stuff you posted, however, upon seeing that list, nobody should not be able to produce an ID.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Devo

You cannot purchase a firearm with expired ID, and its a god given and civilly protected right.

Further, only state issued or military is acceptable, no bills or the other stuff you posted, however, upon seeing that list, nobody should not be able to produce an ID.

God given right?

What, the ID or the weapon?

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Devo

You cannot purchase a firearm with expired ID, and its a god given and civilly protected right.

Further, only state issued or military is acceptable, no bills or the other stuff you posted, however, upon seeing that list, nobody should not be able to produce an ID.

That's PA. 50 states, 50 sets of rules.

In Texas they will permit you to use an expired U.S. passport for up to 4 years when you register to vote.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Would you accept an expired U.S. passport as proof of citizenship?

If not, why not?

Of course not, because it’s expired and another one potentially exists. I can’t cash a check, At a bank that I’m on a first name bases with the tellers, with an expired ID, clearly you shouldn’t be able to vote with one either.

[chizzy]

having an ID to vote should be mandatory.

and please dont give me the bullshit it makes it hard on minorities or the poor

you need one to be on welfare
u need one to seek medical
to go to the bank
to do virtually anything in life

stupid arguements

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Of course not, because it’s expired and another one potentially exists. I can’t cash a check, At a bank that I’m on a first name bases with the tellers, with an expired ID, clearly you shouldn’t be able to vote with one either.

Florida agrees with you. Perhaps you want to move there. Don't move to Tennessee. They don't and accept expired passports.

Missouri also accepts them right now, but won't after this election cycle.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

Why dont' we TRY to quit-with the bullshit little party insults
- "dim-retards" and republi-shits" and what-not.

I would gladly stop calling them "dim-retards" if they would ever stop promoting the fucking garbage that makes them so richly deserving of that title!

The sad reality is - they just keep getting dimmer and more retarded by the day!

We now live in a country where you can get fired from your job for insisting only biological females can give birth!

That takes the meaning of "dim-retard" to a new level!

https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...-get-pregnant/

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

There needs to be balance between easy access to vote and election security. Let's have the convo in the middle rather than out on the fringes.

Originally Posted by lustylad

Problem is - when 1) Election Day has been expanded into Election Month, when 2) dim-retards refuse to clean up out-of-date state voter registration rolls, when 3) unsolicited ballots are mailed out to every person at every address on those outdated rolls, when 4) millions of "Zuck bucks" are showered on dim-retard "activists" to run around "harvesting" ballots from the elderly and incapacitated who are not intensely partisan but are "assisted" by those who are, when 5) unsupervised 24-hour drop boxes are made ubiquitous, and when 6) partisan dim-retard judges on state Supreme courts violate the US Constitution by over-turning rules lawfully prescribed by state legislatures to govern the "time, place and manner" of each state's vote - then WE'RE ALREADY OUT ON THE FUCKING FRINGES!!!

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Sounds less like looking towards constructive solutions both sides can agree on and more like whining, name-calling and scapegoating.

Quit moving the fucking goalposts and maybe we can agree on what constitutes a "fringe" opinion!