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Originally Posted by VitaMan
if you say so...
This guy is trying to declare a victory, while he actually lost (like Trump). Meantime, M777 howitzers continue to destroy tanks in Ukraine.
This is the guy who believes he knows when life begins, and wants to shove it down everyones throats.
There is no discussion with closed minded people like this. The GOP is full of zealots, and this is just another one of them.
Posts of M777 howitzers destroying tanks will continue to be posted, so this thread does not fall off the front page.
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
Scouring the literature, desperately trying to disprove that M777 howitzers are unable to destroy tanks. You come up with a publication from 2016 !!!
Meantime, in year 2022, M777 howitzers with their sophisticated shells are destroying Russian tanks daily.
The M777 can reach a target at 25 miles with a Circular Error Probable (CEP) of 16 feet
Maybe you need to join Putin's team, and try to explain to everyone the Ukraine invasion is going smoothly. You will have better luck with that than what you are accomplishing here.
Or prove you are not a communist. |
Nope. these howitzers don't have the tech you claim allows them to hit tanks on the move. so all your jabbering about the Excalibur round is hot air
unless you expect the US to give high tech to Russia? not a good idea. all it would take is to capture one howitzer with advanced tech and now Russia has it. Brilliant! NOT
US-supplied howitzers to Ukraine lack accuracy-aiding computers
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-s...ry?id=84840798
The computers improve efficiency and accuracy.
By
Tom Burridge
May 20, 2022, 9:33 AM
• 6 min read
KYIV -- Dozens of
artillery systems supplied by the United States to Ukraine were not fitted with advanced computer systems, which improve the efficiency and accuracy of the weapons, ABC News has learned.
The M777 155mm howitzers are now being used by the Ukrainian military in its war with Russia.
The Pentagon did not deny that the artillery pieces were supplied without the computers but said it had received "positive feedback" from the Ukrainians about the "precise and highly effective" weapons.
That positive sentiment was echoed by a Ukrainian politician, who spoke to ABC News on condition of anonymity. However, the politician also expressed frustration that the artillery pieces had not been the fitted with the digital computer systems.
Artillery is currently playing a crucial role in the fighting raging in eastern Ukraine as Russia continues its offensive in that part of the country.
U.S. officials recently confirmed that all but one of the 90 howitzers promised to Ukraine had now been delivered, along with tactical vehicles used to tow them.
Cpl. Austin Fraley/U.S. Marines via Reuters
U.S. Marine Corps M777 towed 155 mm howitzers are staged on the flight line prior to b...
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If fitted to a howitzer, the digital computer system enables the crew operating the weapon to quickly and accurately pinpoint a target.
Howitzers without a computer system can still be fired accurately, using traditional methods to calculate the angle needed to hit a target. Modern computer systems, however, rule-out the possibility of human error.
Why the artillery pieces supplied to Ukraine did not have the digital targeting technology installed is unclear. The Pentagon said it would not discuss individual components "for operational security reasons."
it's completely clear. as noted above Ukraine can't guarantee one of these artillery pieces won't be captured by Russia. they just won't say so.
ABC News contributor Steve Ganyard, a retired colonel in the United State Marine Corps, said the reason for not providing the computers would be "compromise."
"It’s a risk assessment the U.S. does with any export," he said.
"If this piece of kit ends up in Moscow, what is the damage to U.S. security? In this case they couldn’t share the best the U.S. has," he said.
Cpl. Austin Fraley/U.S. Marines via Reuters
U.S. Marine Corps M777 towed 155 mm howitzers are staged on the flight line prior to b...
The revelation about the lack of computer systems on the howitzers comes amid broader frustration in Ukrainian political circles that the U.S. has not yet supplied certain types of advanced weaponry.
To date, the U.S. and its allies have provided Ukraine with an impressive quantity and array of weapons including thousands of anti-tank missiles, thousands of anti-aircraft missiles, hundreds of armored vehicles and armored personnel carriers and hundreds of attack drones.
Cpl. Austin Fraley/U.S. Marines via Reuters
U.S. Marines load an M777 towed 155 mm howitzer into the cargo hold of a U.S. Air For...
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However, the Ukrainian government is currently lobbying the United States for multiple rocket launcher systems and western-made fighter jets, such as F16s
Ukrainian politicians interviewed by ABC News said it was urgent that Ukraine received these types of weapons now, because they believe that Russia is vulnerable following a string of failures on the battlefield.
"Russia is very weak now. Their army is very demoralized," said a Ukrainian politician.
"What we are saying is that we need all the multi-rocket-launcher systems now. This is the best time for us to get the Russians out of our country."
"To do that, we need really good U.S. weapons," the politician said.
ABC News' Luis Martinez contributed to this report.
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