Gifts

[Wakeup]

See? Pussies...too scared to tell their wives what they're doing, too scared to get a divorce...AMAZINGLY hypocritical too...

[mm-good]

Remember it is a gift. To me that means it is given freely without expectation of anything in return.

I give gifts out of gratitude -no strings attached.

[JohnnyCap]

I wish I could take Heinz's view but experience has taught me otherwise. A gift should be a gift for the sake of it, without expectation, but too infrequently it sets an expectation, that this person brings gifts and when he doesn't, we don't like him as much. Much the same, it seems getting a gift is frequently an indication the giver wants something. I'm talking outside the hobby as much as in.

I don't give gifts anymore. I won't. I don't think all who do are chumps, but it has made me feel like one. I offer to bring a soft drink, ask if anything is needed if I am traveling to her. In my business, I am generous with my customers, and those are the right people to receive it.

[PleasantSurprise]

Originally Posted by mm-good

Remember it is a gift. To me that means it is given freely without expectation of anything in return.

I give gifts out of gratitude -no strings attached.

I agree with you and I think this very important piece is often forgotten.

It isn't a gift if it's given with expectations to follow. Now, when a gift is given it might encourage the person on the receiving end to return the favor in some way; but if it's expected for the person on the receiving end to follow up and do something, that isn't fair, that isn't how gift giving works. I love to give gifts and surprises, but it's hard when the person on the other end is always... expecting special little things. Makes it not as special. Especially if the gift or surprise is the same all the time. Such as always giving a cash tip to a provider, I think eventually she wouldn't consider it a gift, but she would come to expect it. Or if you got her a card every time, she may grow to expecting a card. With this in mind, I think the best way to go about gifting is to change it up, always something different, sometimes cheap, just so to not set the wrong... expectation.

[Wakeup]

Or just not to give them...no expectations to get fucked up then...

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

...AMAZINGLY hypocritical too...

There's a lot of that floating around lately.

[Wakeup]

I know! These guys just don't get it! You tell 'em girl!

[Guest050715-1]

I did hommie!

[heinz5710]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

See? Pussies...too scared to tell their wives what they're doing, too scared to get a divorce...AMAZINGLY hypocritical too...

Like I said. It is talking to a wall. BTW I think the wife has an idea of what I am doing and I wonder if you have ever been through a divorce. They can get messy, enrich lawyers, ruin the man especially if he is a 'cheater, and not worth the time and expense. I guess that is why so many gents play on their wives. I don't have a monopoly on adultery. I am told by providers that most of their clients are married. Maybe they are just lying to make me feel good. No matter. We disagree. I noticed you have over 10000 posts. You must live here.

[heinz5710]

One more thing. The notion that a woman who does not submit to her husband making her a cheater is a minority view. Once I read that the southern Baptists made submitting to your husband a non option in marriage and the press among others tore them apart. Just another hypocrisy. A woman doesn't have the right to be a provider but she does have the right to cut him off and if he cheats, HE is the bad guy. I've heard it said more than once. If he doesn't get it at home, he will get it somewhere else. I'm pretty sure most of the providers are single or divorced and able to play but I wonder if there are a few who provide to satisfy their needs and earn some money as well. I'll add that to my list of things I'll never know. Providing wouldn't be worth much if the supply of sex without drama was high or the demand for it was low. It is just economics. Imagine what things were like before the Internet. Oh wait, it is the OLDEST profession. I guess that mean the demand has been high for a very long time and the ladies not asking questions has been in short supply. That alone makes them worthy of a gift! I wonder how many gents here have given a tip. My sense is that most have at one time or another.

[Wakeup]

Not a single time...

[awl4knot]

Originally Posted by heinz5710

I'm pretty sure most of the providers are single or divorced and able to play but I wonder if there are a few who provide to satisfy their needs and earn some money as well. I'll add that to my list of things I'll never know.

I have been told more than once that the sex is a prime motivator for some ladies, but they also like the money. It's all anecdotal and most of those who say this are low volume ladies who have other jobs. I have no reason to doubt them

[red nuts]

just dont give em the gift that keeps on giving

[Guest121917-1]

I love getting gifts. It lets me know that they are thinking about me outside of the bedroom...its flattering. I definitely don't expect them.
I get even more excited when the gift is personal and it is something I have been wanting for a long time.
A gift should never be used with the motive of getting more and that goes for both sides of the fence.

[Say What]

Originally Posted by Daddys Girl

I love getting gifts. It lets me know that they are thinking about me outside of the bedroom...its flattering. I definitely don't expect them.
I get even more excited when the gift is personal and it is something I have been wanting for a long time.
A gift should never be used with the motive of getting more and that goes for both sides of the fence.