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Originally Posted by snoopdogg
Cant we steer this board in a better direction?
i mean the whole point of this hobby is fun isnt it?
Why are a "chosen" few allowed to control discussions here on the Austin Board?
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Sure, you can steer it any way you want. The point of hobby is fun. I think the point of this board is information exchange, at least that's in the name...
So who are the "chosen" few that you keep bringing up that control the discussions?
I've stayed out of most of the bashing you've done on the "chosen" few, but I want to ask you something. Of the 77 posts you've had to date, how many of them were to bash Whispers, how many more to bash the "chosen" few? I understand, as you like to point out so much, that you have a life and don't spend 24/7 on the boards to post so much, but
of the few posts you do make, how many are positive?
I don't think I would be far off if I took a guess and said half of your 77 posts are probably about Whispers or one of the few.
It's OK to be an occasional contributor, many are, but you've become one of the biggest hypocrites on this board to scream about wanting a fun board, yet only contributing negativity and drama.
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I for one dont understand how this is allowable...but then again i guess i'll illicit "points" for questioning things.....
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It's allowable in any open forum where communication is allowed. The vocal few will always seem like the majority. You seem to be under the impression that this board is a bit more free in handing out points than it really is, or that the staff are biased in handing out points. There are rules here, they are enforced. If you read and understand the rules, you will see why some people are allowed to say the things they seem to "get away with". There are ways to toe the line without breaking it. The flip side is that the staff really shouldn't be making decisions about what direction the board will go in individual decisions - tactical vs. the strategic decision of what rules to put in place. If you ask the staff to make decisions on what fits the positive mood or direction they want the board to go, then let them enforce the rules based on that, you will see very inconsistent rulings.
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Originally Posted by snoopdogg
you and your crew think that inciting daily drama is "contributing" to the board
i guarantee a majority here dont think that's their definition of contributing
i dont care if you and your friends have 10,000 more posts than anyone else...
it doesnt mean a dam thing...just that you guys have nothing else to do....
and that's the truth
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I don't know who you consider part of the "crew", but Sixx has obviously contributed 67 reviews (the most obvious way to contribute to the information exchange), he has also shared back channel information through PMs, texts, and Men's Lounge posts. Majority of your contributions have been to attack other members on this board because they don't present the board to you in a way you would like.
I also don't think you can guarantee what the majority here think. As much as you and those detractors keep saying that the vocal minority is not the majority, please don't deign to speak for a silent majority just because you're one of them. It's presumptuous and probably not true.
You keep bringing up post count as if that should mean something. Yes, you don't post much. Yes, others post more. You keep trying to relate low post count to you having a life. While you might have a great life, having a high post count here does not denote a lack of life.
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Originally Posted by TheCandyMan
I totally agree with snoop and his assessment of the board. It's very obvious that Sixx's true colors have surfaced now that he's not a Mod any more. I find it hilarious that he's chosen an ominous looking avatar and tries to come across as a bad ass when in reality he's a short little fat guy with a little fucked up dick. I really have no bone to pick with anybody on this board. The total nature of this board has changed so dramatically that it's just not fun to participate in any threads anymore due to all the negativity. I have met several wonderful ladies on this board and a handful that I will continue to see regularly. I'm at a stage in the hobby that I don't want or need to see the new flavor of the month so BCD isn't that important to me any more. That only leaves discussion threads and Lord knows that's getting old as Hell sifting through the hourly Whispers Blog. I may get points or banned for my comments here but when I think about it.......
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Way to not stoop to personal attacks. As much as some people like to think this board has become Whispers’ hourly blog or his facebook… I only see two threads started by him on the first page. So sifting through 2 threads is getting old… As it’s been brought up, if you don’t want to read someone’s posts, put them on ignore. If you don’t want to put anyone on ignore, skip their posts. It’s simple folks.
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Originally Posted by Texasquest
No it isnt only about Six and Whispers..Thats the whole point.It is supposed to be a Place for "FRIENDLY" exchange of infoand viewpoints..But it does seem that if those Views are not the same as certain individuals here.then it turns into a Flame war.Some individuals here are NOT capable of expressing ideas and Views without stooping to personal attacks.It is getting to be more obvious that the General consensous here has gotten Tired of it.If the Majosity of the people here want a kinder .more fun filled Enviroment they need to ALL BAN TOGETHER and steer it that way.dont let the few individuals who think they have a "GOD GIVEN RIGHT" to bash and attack everyone here get away with it..The board belongs to everyopne Not a SELECT FEW.
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Would personal attacks include things like naming someone “Chosen One” and starting threads about them? How about having the majority of your posts about one particular member when you show up to a city’s boards? Oh yeah, you were only calling out the BS… Whispers claims that he’s calling out others’ BS. Who’s right?
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Originally Posted by mastermind238
Nice idea, but if every thread anybody posts is hijacked by Sixx or Whispers and turned into a nasty pissing contest, what's the point of trying? I don't think I've ever used the red triange in the 13 months or so I've been a member, but today I've already used it twice. I'll bet it won't be that last time I use it today, either. Thanks for starting this thread, snoop.
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Why do you let it get hijacked? If it’s true that the huge majority of people hate the direction that Whispers and Sixx are taking, why not just ignore? I don’t understand this trend of playing the victim. Seems there are a handful lately that think they are the victim of Whispers and Sixx…and their “crew” or “Attack Pack”. Really? Who are these people in the Attack Pack or crew? Which threads are they hijacking and who are they attacking? Yeah, I see the Whispers vs. TM thing. Aside from that, what else is antagonistic?
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Originally Posted by Spacemtn
The owners are looking for 1-2 people to become Moderators here in Austin. Step up! Throw your name in the hat and maybe you will be selected and then you will see that there are no favorites when it comes to Moderating.
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Let’s get Snoop and Texasquest, they seem to know what the majority want, and where the board should go.
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Originally Posted by irishlad
The way I see it, if some people (like Whispers as the preeminent example) post a whole hell of a lot and invest energy into the board they will have a greater impact on the feel and flavor of the place than those who do not. I think that's just reality.
It may be an unpleasant reality if you happen to find such any such highly engaged poster arrogant and abrasive or overly argumentative (posting style) as some obviously do, but try to remember that he's just impacting your internet reading experience not your life. BTW reading is something you DO...you choose to...so in reality you're just ticked off that you cannot bring yourself to just ignore them. Your drawn to the opportunity to be outraged. It's like Jerry Springer and desperate housewives...you watch those guys rant on line and it make you feel "I'm better than them".
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Very well said! One step further is to post online how you think the villains are the worst thing, and you’re nothing like them and better.
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Short of throttling "high activity" folks by having a daily posting limit (probably undesirable) all you can do is have some objective behavioral guidelines, which this board does.
I will take one position though. I really do think it would be for the good of the board if calling women (or hobbyists) who post here fat, old, cellulite ridden or anything else in that vein, at least anywhere but in the description section of a review, were forbidden and/or addressed a lot more aggressively. That kind of BS just pollutes the air and inhibits participation by some folks and adds nothing of value when its just part of a heated argument.
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There are times when a description may be given that’s not part of a review, and I’m afraid that words like and others in that vein would be stepping into the subjective behavioral guideline side. I can tell you that if I chose to, no list of words will keep me from insulting, degrading or humiliating someone on a forum. Such attempts would only help the creative.
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There is one board I know of that stops a lot of the BS by simply making at a violation to directly address any individual. You can comment on the OP or make statements on the topic, but no directly addressing other posters is permitted. It is amazingly effective, but comes at a cost and may not be appropriate for a board like this one.
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That would be a pretty high price to pay, and I’m not sure that would create the “fun” atmosphere the others are looking for.
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Originally Posted by snoopdogg
See this is the type of stuff we're talking about
and what exactly are you threatening him with? We'd all like to know?
Is all this Necessary?
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So how is it that you notice Sixx responding, yet say nothing about CandyMan calling him a short, fat man with a fucked up little dick? He said that he would respond in a more appropriate place, I would imagine that to be either Austin Men’s Lounge or National Men’s Lounge where the rules are more…relaxed.