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02-01-2022, 03:54 PM
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well some of those choices are made by you, and some are made with a doctor, and influenced by others; but yeah, - if you decide to not do a process or procedure ....your choice. But if your choice affects me- then I'd say it starts to get into a realm of a what's good for the majority vs the individual. If you are typhoid Mary- should you be allowed to wander around with impunity.
No, all of my choices are made by ME, not my doctor, not by others, I research the data, then make my choice, and frankly, I think I'm more intelligent than most doctors or lawyers I've ever dealt with, with the exception of a few.
Now here, is where your classic liberalism and socialism comes out, I have absolutely no need, or desire to protect or help you, unless I want too.
That is your responsibility, not mine, if you don't want to carry a gun, good for you, but, don't expect me to protect you in a time of need.
IF you want to stay safe from a virus, fine, stay at home, work from home, and have your groceries and supplies delivered, you have no right to assume that your rights trump my rights in any way.
And that is where the line always falls between liberal socialists and conservatives, even though I am a libertarian, I am a constiutional conservative at heart, with some common sense beliefs, like the right to control your body, and, the right to do with your body as you want, any drug, booze, whatever, just don't rob me to support your habit.
You are a selfish individual to expect any other human to be forced to do anything for your benefit, you deserve nothing more than any other human being, and you and the left are eventually going to get the lesson taught, whether its because you are starving because the truckers won't deliver your groceries, or, whether you force the response from the right that it appears you are trying to.
One thing I love, is the lefts reaction to the "Insurrection", frankly, give me 50 people from the Hinterlands of PA, and I could give you far more of an "Insurrection" than you could imagine.
A lady today, got probation for barely walking into the Capitol for less than two minutes, and, people who burned police precincts walked away free.
Don't for one minute think that things like that are ignored or forgotten, it tells people, if you are going to go to jail, then, get your moneys worth while you do it.
Be selfish, keep pushing, keep pushing and you will get a result eventually, but don't expect anyone to do anything for you, now, or then.
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02-01-2022, 03:58 PM
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While the truckers may be demonstrating in a way they can and know, they are doing as much damage to a country by being a blockade of goods and services
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Such damage - Participants of the Freedom Convoy preparing meals for the homeless in Ottawa.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1488562982062026753
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02-01-2022, 03:59 PM
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Oh, as for my Opinions Mexico, its about what happens when they allow there people and others to break the law, and come into my country, have I ever spoke of the policies of the Mexican government when it doesn't affect us here?
No, and I won't do the same thing for Canada, and their pussy of a prime minister, they voted for him, and they can remove him, let them, but, I hope some of them get a bit hungry to help make it happen.
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02-01-2022, 04:05 PM
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Did you ever notice, its only the right trying to help people during bad times?
Even Kyle Rittenhouse was there to help.
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02-01-2022, 04:43 PM
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Truckers who blockade keep trade from flowing. Not a hard concept berry...had nothing to do with supporting the homeless or their dietary needs. You want to dress it up to put perfume on a pig, go ahead but they are not there for that purpose. That said, good things can come from some demonstrations despite why or how they start.
By changing the freedom convoy narrative to the feed the homeless narrativ, you changed the reason they are there. You sure you took your medication today?
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02-01-2022, 04:44 PM
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Did you ever notice, its only the right trying to help people during bad times?
Even Kyle Rittenhouse was there to help.
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Indeed. The libtards claim to be tolerant when in reality it is the complete opposite. It is all part of their act
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02-01-2022, 04:48 PM
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It's spreading - at the Coutts border blockade the RCMP tried to negotiate the truckers leaving. The truckers refused and when the RCMP ended negotiations and threatened to arrest them, reinforcements came as the Alberta Farmers joined the freedom blockade further blocking the road with their tractors and farm equipment!!!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1488641282180190212
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02-01-2022, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by berryberry
It's spreading - at the Coutts border blockade the RCMP tried to negotiate the truckers leaving. The truckers refused and when the RCMP ended negotiations and threatened to arrest them, reinforcements came as the Alberta Farmers joined the freedom blockade further blocking the road with their tractors and farm equipment!!!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1488641282180190212
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Well if there is one thing we learned from Antifa and BLM, bring enough people and the police stand down.
Things that make you go hmmm.
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02-01-2022, 04:58 PM
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So you oppose freedom.
And you support giving someone else the ability to say what you can do with your body - and what experimental substances can be injected into your body.
So you would be fine with the government telling you that you need to get XYZ shot just because they are the government. Hmmm.
There have been many examples throughout history of governments abusing their power like this. And yet you want to freely give them that ability. Sickening
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I don't oppose freedom or agree with your assertion that I do. When someone decides they like the benefits of society but yet won't assist in the process to obtain a society, they could be deemed antisocial. Keeping a society safe from enemies foreign or domestic sometimes requires sacrifices. And you guys who claim to be vaxxed but don't give a shit about others doing so, are full of it. Did you solely get vaccinated just for yourself. Aka selfishly, or did you do it to protect ANYONE other than , but including yourself? Your bullshit about freedom from a FDA Approved vaccine is nonsense. The only reason you would say it's not approved is because Fox News told you so, and you'll listen because you're a sheep. We do things in a society to help maintain the society and the positive outcomes of a society. Just like we build highways we all get to use, cuz we all help pay for them shows that we are societal based. If someone decided I like driving my car but I don't want to pay for these highways, or contribute to their upkeep etc. Would be considered a freeloader. Is that what you guys on the right are, bunch of fucking freeloaders?
There have been many examples of freeloaders who didn't pay their share on the right wing side of things. Imagine a guy who says he's worth 8 billion dollars but doesn't pay a single Dollar in tax? A freeloader who decides that laws don't apply to him because he's antisocial and that he thinks he's above these laws. A guy who grabs women's genitals and had been to so corrupt of societies laws, that his child cancer foundation was found to be full of deceit and fraud. I that what you guys align with? Sounds like it. But trucks are cool so they must be in the right cause they rep blue collar dudes who just want to control their bodies....doing it by creating a blockade and costing everyone who relies on transport goods and the billions of dollars involved as hostage while they wait. If hostage taking has become legit then I'm guessing you comrades of corruption are good with holding ppl hostage till someone agrees with ya. Sickly sad
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02-01-2022, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Devo
Did you ever notice, its only the right trying to help people during bad times?
Even Kyle Rittenhouse was there to help.
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Kyle was guilty of many things. And overzealous prosecutor tried to get him on things he wasn't guilty of. But the kid was guilty of crossing a state line with a gun that was a straw purchase, and was underage while using that gun, and likely should have been charged for manslaughter instead of attempted murder. But I'm not an attorney general and it wasn't my decision on how to charge little fuck face. But if he's your kind of hero with a 223, maybe could be a superhero with my 6.5 creedmoor, cept mines legal and shit.
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02-01-2022, 05:20 PM
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... Once again you're wrong.
Rittenhouse didn't "cross the state line" with the gun,
he got it when he was at the site.... And he was defending himself,
you must have missed that.
But this thread is about the Freedom Convoy.
Any thoughts on that??
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02-01-2022, 05:46 PM
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02-01-2022, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by eyecu2
I don't oppose freedom or agree with your assertion that I do. When someone decides they like the benefits of society but yet won't assist in the process to obtain a society, they could be deemed antisocial. Keeping a society safe from enemies foreign or domestic sometimes requires sacrifices. And you guys who claim to be vaxxed but don't give a shit about others doing so, are full of it. Did you solely get vaccinated just for yourself. Aka selfishly, or did you do it to protect ANYONE other than , but including yourself? Your bullshit about freedom from a FDA Approved vaccine is nonsense. The only reason you would say it's not approved is because Fox News told you so, and you'll listen because you're a sheep. We do things in a society to help maintain the society and the positive outcomes of a society. Just like we build highways we all get to use, cuz we all help pay for them shows that we are societal based. If someone decided I like driving my car but I don't want to pay for these highways, or contribute to their upkeep etc. Would be considered a freeloader. Is that what you guys on the right are, bunch of fucking freeloaders?
There have been many examples of freeloaders who didn't pay their share on the right wing side of things. Imagine a guy who says he's worth 8 billion dollars but doesn't pay a single Dollar in tax? A freeloader who decides that laws don't apply to him because he's antisocial and that he thinks he's above these laws. A guy who grabs women's genitals and had been to so corrupt of societies laws, that his child cancer foundation was found to be full of deceit and fraud. I that what you guys align with? Sounds like it. But trucks are cool so they must be in the right cause they rep blue collar dudes who just want to control their bodies....doing it by creating a blockade and costing everyone who relies on transport goods and the billions of dollars involved as hostage while they wait. If hostage taking has become legit then I'm guessing you comrades of corruption are good with holding ppl hostage till someone agrees with ya. Sickly sad
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Nice off topic rant alas you did not address the post. And yes, by your words, you are opposing freedom. The freedom for people to choose what they do with their body and what medical treatments / experimental drugs to use or not use
Do you support giving someone else the ability to say what you can do with your body - and what experimental substances can be injected into your body?
Are you fine with the government telling you that you need to get XYZ shot or take ABC drug or have MNO medical procedure done just because they are the government?
Again, there have been many examples throughout history of governments abusing their power like this. And yet you want to freely give them that ability. Sickening
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02-01-2022, 06:14 PM
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LOL
The Mayor of Ottawa called some tow companies and asked them to start towing trucks out of the city. The tow companies reply? "We've got Co-vid."
Also - Alberta towing companies reject requests to supply trucks to Mounties to remove Coutts border blockade
Don't these dipshit politicians understand the tow companies are tuckers themselves and support the Freedom Truckers !!!
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Love it! Also the post about the farmers! lol
Dont these elitists know that theyre alienating the backbone of any Country? The blue collar worker.
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02-01-2022, 06:21 PM
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Love it! Also the post about the farmers! lol
Dont these elitists know that theyre alienating the backbone of any Country? The blue collar worker.
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Indeed. These are salt of the earth people. The people who make the country go. And the dumb politicians by insulting and dismissing them are just making more and more people see how out of control these tyrannical politicians are.
Even some politicians are waking up - Saskatchewan premier issues letter supporting truckers, says mandate 'makes no sense'
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...makes-no-sense
I am not sure he saw "the light". I think he saw the headlamp of the freight train of history about to run him over.
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