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Old 06-13-2015, 03:02 PM   #61
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You're obviously too stupid to understand the definition of the word, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
I'm too smart to fall for your bullshit is what I am. You're obviously ensconced in your mother's basement, the better part of you having drained down your father's leg, all those many years ago in that filthy Burger King bathroom. You're a joke. To everyone. We all laugh at you and your gruber grubber bullshit. What kind of degenerate does that for 17K posts?
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Try recommending a real book not some hack job that purports to tie charitable contributions to a foundation to graft and corruption via innuendo....
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And the book you so proudly feature has been found to be a big piece of bullshit.




Hack job? Innuendo? Big piece of bullshit? Really? Lots of people who are much more thoughtful and intelligent than either of you two willfully blind dickheads disagree! It doesn't matter which political party you belong to. If you are untroubled and willing to tolerate this type of corrupt behavior, you are defining political deviancy down!



How the Clintons Get Away With It

The Clintons are protected from charges of corruption by their reputation for corruption.


By Peggy Noonan
May 7, 2015 5:48 p.m.

I have read the Peter Schweizer book “ Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich.” It is something. Because it is heavily researched and reported and soberly analyzed, it is a highly effective takedown. Because its tone is modest—Mr. Schweizer doesn’t pretend to more than he has, or take wild interpretive leaps—it is believable.

By the end I was certain of two things. A formal investigation, from Congress or the Justice Department, is needed to determine if Hillary Clinton’s State Department functioned, at least to some degree and in some cases, as a pay-for-play operation and whether the Clinton Foundation has functioned, at least in part, as a kind of high-class philanthropic slush fund.

I wonder if any aspirant for the presidency except Hillary Clinton could survive such a book. I suspect she can because the Clintons are unique in the annals of American politics: They are protected from charges of corruption by their reputation for corruption. It’s not news anymore. They’re like . . . Bonnie and Clyde go on a spree, hold up a bunch of banks, it causes a sensation, there’s a trial, and they’re acquitted. They walk out of the courthouse, get in a car, rob a bank, get hauled in, complain they’re being picked on—“Why are you always following us?”—and again, not guilty. They rob the next bank and no one cares. “That’s just Bonnie and Clyde doing what Bonnie and Clyde do. No one else cares, why should I?”

Mr. Schweizer announces upfront that he cannot prove wrongdoing, only patterns of behavior. There is no memo that says, “To all staff: If we deal this week with any issues regarding Country A, I want you to know country A just gave my husband $750,000 for a speech, so give them what they want.” Even if Mrs. Clinton hadn’t destroyed her emails, no such memo would be found. (Though patterns, dates and dynamics might be discerned.)

Mr. Schweizer writes of “the flow of tens of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation . . . from foreign governments, corporations, and financiers.” It is illegal for foreign nationals to give to U.S. political campaigns, but foreign money, given as donations to the Clinton Foundation or speaking fees, comes in huge amounts: “No one has even come close in recent years to enriching themselves on the scale of the Clintons while they or a spouse continued to serve in public office.” The speaking fees Bill commands are “enormous and unprecedented,” as high as $750,000 a speech. On occasion they have been paid by nations or entities that had “matters of importance sitting on Hillary’s desk” when she was at State.

From 2001 through 2012 Bill collected $105.5 million for speeches and raised hundreds of millions for the foundation. When she was nominated, Hillary said she saw no conflict. President Obama pressed for a memorandum of understanding in which the Clintons would agree to submit speeches to State’s ethics office, disclose the names of major donors to the foundation, and seek administration approval before accepting direct contributions to the foundation from foreign governments. The Clintons accepted the agreement and violated it “almost immediately.” Revealingly, they amassed wealth primarily by operating “at the fringes of the developed world.” Their “most lucrative transactions” did not involve countries like Germany and Britain, where modern ethical rules and procedures are in force, but emerging nations, where regulations are lax.

How did it work? “Bill flew around the world making speeches and burnishing his reputation as a global humanitarian and wise man. Very often on these trips he was accompanied by ‘close friends’ or associates who happened to have business interests pending in these countries.” Introductions were made, conversations had. “Meanwhile, bureaucratic or legislative obstacles were mysteriously cleared or approvals granted within the purview of his wife, the powerful senator or secretary of state.”

Mr. Schweizer tells a story with national-security implications. Kazakhstan has rich uranium deposits, coveted by those who’d make or sell nuclear reactors or bombs. In 2006 Bill Clinton meets publicly and privately with Kazakhstan’s dictator, an unsavory character in need of respectability. Bill brings along a friend, a Canadian mining tycoon named Frank Giustra. Mr. Giustra wanted some mines. Then the deal was held up. A Kazakh official later said Sen. Clinton became involved. Mr. Giustra got what he wanted.

Soon after, he gave the Clinton Foundation $31.3 million. A year later Mr. Giustra’s company merged with a South African concern called Uranium One. Shareholders later wrote millions of dollars in checks to the Clinton Foundation. Mr. Giustra announced a commitment of $100 million to a joint venture, the Clinton Giustra Sustainable Growth Initiative.

It doesn’t end there. When Hillary was secretary of state, Russia moved for a bigger piece of the world uranium market. The Russians wanted to acquire Uranium One, which had significant holdings in the U.S. That meant the acquisition would require federal approval. Many had reservations: Would Russian control of so much U.S. uranium be in America’s interests? The State Department was among the agencies that had to sign off. Money from interested parties rolled into the foundation. The deal was approved. The result? “Half of projected American uranium production” was “transferred to a private company controlled” by Russia, which soon owned it outright.

What would a man like Vladimir Putin think when he finds out he can work the U.S. system like this? He’d think it deeply decadent. He’d think it weak. Is that why he laughs when we lecture him on morals?

Mr. Schweizer offers a tough view of the Clinton Foundation itself. It is not a “traditional charity,” in that there is a problem “delineating where the Clinton political machines and moneymaking ventures end and where their charity begins.” The causes it promotes—preventing obesity, alleviating AIDS suffering—are worthy, and it does some good, but mostly it functions as a middleman. The foundation’s website shows the Clintons holding sick children in Africa, but unlike Doctors Without Borders and Samaritan’s Purse, the foundation does “little hands-on humanitarian work.” It employs longtime Clinton associates and aides, providing jobs “to those who served the Clintons when in power and who may serve them again.” The Better Business Bureau in 2013 said it failed to meet minimum standards of accountability and transparency. Mr. Schweizer notes that “at least four Clinton Foundation trustees have either been charged or convicted of financial crimes including bribery and fraud.”

There’s more. Mrs. Clinton has yet to address any of it.

If the book is true—if it’s half-true—it is a dirty story.

It would be good if the public, the Democratic Party and the Washington political class would register some horror, or at least dismay.

I write on the eve of the 70th anniversary of V-E Day, May 8, 1945. America had just saved the world. The leaders of the world respected us—a great people led by tough men. What do they think now? Scary to think, isn’t it?

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Here come this stupid motherfucker. Peggy Noonan? Jesus, could you not get Ronald Reagan himself to comment on the book? Go copy and paste your bullshit somewhere else, you old washed up cum guzzler.
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Here come this stupid motherfucker. Peggy Noonan? Jesus, could you not get Ronald Reagan himself to comment on the book? Go copy and paste your bullshit somewhere else, you old washed up cum guzzler.

You show your true colors with every stupid post you make, you worthless sperm-burping cacklehead. Can't offer any substantive rebuttal so you try to shoot the messenger instead. Hildabeast is dishonest and corrupt to her core and you know it. You're cool with it because you are a slimy subhuman POS. You want to drag the American political system into the sewer just like you drag this forum into the shitter with every lowlife post you make.

Are you also cool with Russia controlling more than half of US uranium production? Just remember folks - it happened on Hillary's watch, while money rolled into the Clinton foundation, and the bitch didn't even recuse herself from the decision-making! No bullshit, those are the facts. Undercunt and diddlydick just shrug and say move along folks, there's nothing to see here!

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You show your true colors with every stupid post you make, you worthless sperm-burping cacklehead. Can't offer any substantive rebuttal so you try to shoot the messenger instead. Hildabeast is dishonest and corrupt to her core and you know it. You're cool with it because you are a slimy subhuman POS. You want to drag the American political system into the sewer just like you drag this forum into the shitter with every lowlife post you make.

Are you also cool with Russia controlling more than half of US uranium production? Just remember folks - it happened on Hillary's watch, while money rolled into the Clinton foundation, and the bitch didn't even recuse herself from the decision-making! No bullshit, those are the facts. Undercunt and diddlydick just shrug and say move along folks, there's nothing to see here!

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You go copy and paste an op-ed written by a former Reagan speechwriter. And you want to call me dishonest? Give me a fucking break. You accuse me of dragging this forum into the shitter. What in the name of Zeus' butthole were you doing with your one-man wrecking crew aimed at some bullshit about me having two handles? Starting threads and starting polls and all that bullshit. That was YOU. You went on an on for weeks about that stupid-ass shit. You don't get to pull that shit and then expect me to act respectful towards you. Own that shit, you sorry motherfucker. Take some personal responsibility instead of trying to cast the blame on someone else.

The american political system is in the sewer already. Conservatives couldn't stomach a black man sleeping in the WH and it's been on ever since. Take that bullshit on down the road, Sally. No one's buying here.

As for the uranium and Clinton Foundation, you have no facts. You have two separate acts with no connective tissue. Does it look good? No, it doesn't. But you simply don't have a smoking gun connecting the two things. You act as if the State Dept is one person, Hillary Clinton. And it's not. Are you saying they're all dirty? If there's evidence of wrongdoing, let's see it. I'm not against her being punished if she's done wrong, but simply taking two facts and wishing they were connected is not the same as knowing it definitively.
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Nice try to minimize the findings of a very reputable investigation into the Clinton's finances......your dismal isn't supported by major liberal news organizations which include the Washington Post, NY Times, Bloomberg News and Slate (which called the book a "damning success...important truth: It is impossible to separate money from power in the highest spheres of influence and politics that the Clintons call home." ).


BTW, you look completely foolish denying what so many others (especially on the left) can clearly see...that at the highest levels of politics, big money corrupts. The Clinton's aren't immune from such corruption, try as you might to say otherwise.





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Ha ha ha ha ha, say it ain't so. Try recommending a real book not some hack job that purports to tie charitable contributions to a foundation to graft and corruption via innuendo. That is the best laugh I've had in a long time, thanks Iffy.
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I'm too smart to fall for your bullshit is what I am. You're obviously ensconced in your mother's basement, the better part of you having drained down your father's leg, all those many years ago in that filthy Burger King bathroom. You're a joke. To everyone. We all laugh at you and your gruber grubber bullshit. What kind of degenerate does that for 17K posts?
Once again you prove you're obviously too stupid to understand the definition of the word, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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You show your true colors with every stupid post you make, you worthless sperm-burping cacklehead. Can't offer any substantive rebuttal so you try to shoot the messenger instead. Hildabeast is dishonest and corrupt to her core and you know it. You're cool with it because you are a slimy subhuman POS. You want to drag the American political system into the sewer just like you drag this forum into the shitter with every lowlife post you make.

Are you also cool with Russia controlling more than half of US uranium production? Just remember folks - it happened on Hillary's watch, while money rolled into the Clinton foundation, and the bitch didn't even recuse herself from the decision-making! No bullshit, those are the facts. Undercunt and diddlydick just shrug and say move along folks, there's nothing to see here!

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Ya gotta know that his favorite blowup doll is Shrillary, don't ya ? He commented a few days back about how he likes her and how he thinks she's a fine looking woman in one of his posts. Reckon she takes his "BREATH" away when ever he hears her on the radio or TV ? And pictures of her must be what he uses for his "spank" material down in his " dear mummy's" basement.
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IBGrubergruber, your rhetoric is getting progressively more juvenile. Is that coincidental or are you allowed to stay up late now that the school year is over?

We'll need a permission slip signed by your Mumsie.

Oh yeah, and a review would be nice. One that counts. If you never intended to post reviews then why did you clamor to "establish" yourself with grandfathered reviews of trannies on ASPD?

You are not to be believed.

Who's to say you're not LE or worse?
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IBGrubergruber, your rhetoric is getting progressively more juvenile. Is that coincidental or are you allowed to stay up late now that the school year is over?

We'll need a permission slip signed by your Mumsie.

Oh yeah, and a review would be nice. One that counts. If you never intended to post reviews then why did you clamor to "establish" yourself with grandfathered reviews of trannies on ASPD?

You are not to be believed.

Who's to say you're not LE or worse?
Why don't you ask your black sister? ShitEater
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Why don't you ask your black sister? ShitEater

Check out his new avatar - he's too busy kissing Ted Cruz' ass!
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Ya gotta know that his favorite blowup doll is Shrillary, don't ya ? He commented a few days back about how he likes her and how he thinks she's a fine looking woman in one of his posts. Reckon she takes his "BREATH" away when ever he hears her on the radio or TV ? And pictures of her must be what he uses for his "spank" material down in his " dear mummy's" basement.
So, I'm bisexual? Is that what you're saying?
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So, I'm bisexual? Is that what you're saying?
No, you are full BLOWN gay. You just have moments of heterosexual urges that you are ashamed of and can't control when you see a picture of Shrillary, Nattering Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Watters, MOOCHellle odummer, Barbara Mikulski, or ANY of the dumbascrap parties "beauty queens". It must make you "breath" hard when you see those pictures or see any one of them on TV. shammy gave you up on the spank and spunk material since you won't share it with him. And molesting small animals does NOT make you bi-sexual, as much as you claim that you are bi-sexual.
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Once again you prove you're obviously too stupid to understand the definition of the word, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
The board is alive with stupid IB posts today! (I know, that it true any day he posts, but the ones today seem to be even more stupid than his normal phlegm.

Now, besides claiming every citation he doesn't agree with is not valid, here we have IBAsshole deciding that he is the authoritative judge of a term's meaning--even when the term is a fictional one.

Well, you do live in a fictional works.
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The board is alive with stupid IB posts today! (I know, that it true any day he posts, but the ones today seem to be even more stupid than his normal phlegm.

Now, besides claiming every citation he doesn't agree with is not valid, here we have IBAsshole deciding that he is the authoritative judge of a term's meaning--even when the term is a fictional one.

Well, you do live in a fictional works.
It's a fact, Old-THUMPER, that "#Grubered" applies to those "stupid" and "uneducated", lib-retarded morons who sucked down Odumbo's lies about Odumbocare, you pathetic and lying, little troll. Are you really so stupid that you're going to try to deny that, Old-THUMPER?


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IBGrubergruber, your rhetoric is getting progressively more juvenile. Is that coincidental or are you allowed to stay up late now that the school year is over?

We'll need a permission slip signed by your Mumsie.

Oh yeah, and a review would be nice. One that counts. If you never intended to post reviews then why did you clamor to "establish" yourself with grandfathered reviews of trannies on ASPD?

You are not to be believed.

Who's to say you're not LE or worse?
There's no doubt about what you are, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.

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