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Old 11-27-2022, 09:29 AM   #61
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I have not told a single lie here. Everything I've said is factual.
lies, damn lies, and statistics isn’t an accusation of lying. It describes using a meaningless statistic to try to prove a point, which is exactly what your statements concerning the 2018 senatorial races attempt to do.
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You on the other hand keep repeating the same appeal to tradition fallacy.
Because you don’t agree with or understand the way something is doesn’t make it a fallacy.

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The American citizens are what matters. That's what the politicians represent.
Only insofar as they direct the governance of the state.
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There's no logical reason that the much smaller group should be able to impose their will on the much larger group. 17.5 million is a big difference. It was a double digit percentage difference.
Again, junk statistics that are meaningless in a constitutional republic.

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Jacuzzme do you believe that it's right for humans to enslave other humans on the basis of race?
Nice try. The 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments have nothing to do with how people chose representation, on any level.
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Old 11-27-2022, 12:11 PM   #62
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You're just wrong, dude. A voter in Montana has much more power, on the federal level, than a voter in New York, Florida or California has. As long as every state, regardless of population, has exactly two U.S. Senators, the balance of power at the federal level will always benefit the minority - which is outdated nonsense. Nothing at all "representative" about that republic.
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Old 11-27-2022, 12:20 PM   #63
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I have not told a single lie here. Everything I've said is factual. You on the other hand keep repeating the same appeal to tradition fallacy.

The American citizens are what matters. That's what the politicians represent. There's no logical reason that the much smaller group should be able to impose their will on the much larger group. 17.5 million is a big difference. It was a double digit percentage difference.
I see you still have either not read, or if you did, do not understand Federalist 62
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Old 11-27-2022, 12:23 PM   #64
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You're just wrong, dude. A voter in Montana has much more power, on the federal level, than a voter in New York, Florida or California has. As long as every state, regardless of population, has exactly two U.S. Senators, the balance of power at the federal level will always benefit the minority - which is outdated nonsense. Nothing at all "representative" about that republic.
Another person who has not read nor understands Federalist 62

No wonder our country is in such bad shape. With our failing education system dominated by crazy ass lib teachers, there are far too many poorly educated people who don't understand the principles our country was founded upon
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Old 11-27-2022, 12:24 PM   #65
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I see you still have either not read, or if you did, do not understand Federalist 62
Anybody still backing trump has no right to lecture anyone on anything the founders intended. One of the pillars this country is absolutely the peaceful transfer of power. Election deniers and trumper crybabies have no leg to stand on here, or in any other discussion about "how things should be" here in America. The founders did everything they could to prevent someone like trump from ever gaining power.
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Old 11-27-2022, 12:54 PM   #66
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Actually, someone like Trump is precisely who they had in mind. They had just fought a war to escape domination by an elite, political class.

It’s disconcerting that so many know so little about how and why the country was founded, and how and why it was structured the way it is.
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Old 11-27-2022, 01:06 PM   #67
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Actually, someone like Trump is precisely who they had in mind. They had just fought a war to escape domination by an elite, political class.

It’s disconcerting that so many know so little about how and why the country was founded, and how and why it was structured the way it is.
Indeed. As I mentioned, with our failing education system dominated by crazy ass lib teachers, there are far too many poorly educated people who don't understand the principles our country was founded upon.

Either that or they are just so filled with hate towards conservatives that the ignore our history and basic facts.

It's sad and pathetic
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Old 11-27-2022, 03:28 PM   #68
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Actually, someone like Trump is precisely who they had in mind. They had just fought a war to escape domination by an elite, political class.

It’s disconcerting that so many know so little about how and why the country was founded, and how and why it was structured the way it is.
Ummm, pretty sure the whole election denial and attempted insurrection stuff disqualifies trump as anyone the founders had in mind. But keep telling yourself you know better than we do. Feel free to nominate him again, and watch him get destroyed. Again.
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Old 11-28-2022, 08:04 AM   #69
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1 person. 1 vote.
1 person.

Who is alive
And is a US citizen
With a government issued ID
And is a registered voter
Who is willing to vote in the proper way based on federal state and local laws.

1 vote.


All others equal fuck off.

Philadelphia votes hold significantly more power than Montana votes, because tens of thousands of dead Philadelphians vote. I bet that number is in the thousands in Allegheny County as well. Without those dead/fraudulent votes PA would be a pretty reliable red state.

Therefore, a Montana vote counts as one vote, while a Legitimate PA vote counts as far less because it gets diluted by fraud. While not exactly what the founding fathers intended it still falls into the checks and balances of power department
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Old 11-28-2022, 08:22 AM   #70
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Still shilling more disinformation.

Doesn't that routine ever get old?

I had a dog once that could only sit and shake paw. While it was cute in the beginning towards the end became rather boring. As is this thread which perpetuates yet more conspiracies and lies
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Old 11-28-2022, 08:28 AM   #71
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Voter fraud is a fact that has been proven many times over right in Philadelphia. Interesting that they still somehow manage to refuse admittance to polling observers in the offending districts. But as usual the left goes all “move along, nothing to see here”
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Old 11-28-2022, 09:35 AM   #72
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The only voter fraud found in Pennsylvania in the 2020 election was committed by trump voters. It's all easily verifiable. But do go on with your disinformation campaign, trump cucks.
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Old 11-28-2022, 09:37 AM   #73
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...n-voter-fraud/
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:28 PM   #74
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Voter fraud is a fact that has been proven many times over right in Philadelphia. Interesting that they still somehow manage to refuse admittance to polling observers in the offending districts. But as usual the left goes all “move along, nothing to see here”
Alas, we have ill-informed people who have been brainwashed by lib propaganda that no voter fraud exists - so no matter how much you point it out, present evidence, etc. they will keep their heads buried where the sun don't shine and say you are wrong
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:31 PM   #75
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You people are projecting. This is what came up first when I googled voter fraud in PA:

https://apnews.com/article/election-...4146931127caff

Cult 45 is the second saddest phenomenon that I've witnessed in US politics, only topped by the Iraq war.
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