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10-03-2015, 06:35 PM
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And, according to the Founding Fathers, it always was an individual right:
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Has anyone dialed 911 for the "Whambulance" to come get woomby after he just got "trucked" ?
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10-03-2015, 07:36 PM
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Better call a front end loader...
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10-03-2015, 08:35 PM
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The second amendment doesn't say any of that. It's not about what it 'implies', dumbass. It's about what it actually SAYS. Go read it. Keep and bear arms were used as military terms during the 1700s. That, along with the well-regulated militia means the guns were for that purpose, not the private citizen.
You and your ilk have tried to twist it to mean something else, but it doesn't. I know gun laws in this country aren't working. I know we have one of these shootings all the fucking time. I know if it you were kin, you wouldn't be on here calling them false flags and all that other bullshit you spew.
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According to the Scotus it does indeed mean the private citizen. If we have to follow their reasoning with regards to gay marriage and abortion they are equally right when it comes to the second amendment.
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10-03-2015, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
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And, according to the Founding Fathers, it always was an individual right:
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According to TWO founding fathers, you fucking moron. You've been caught in yet another lie, but what's new.
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10-03-2015, 09:53 PM
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So, if "enforcing the law" is a cop out, we don't need to enforce any laws??? Or do we only enforce the ones YOU specifically like?? So you can stop worrying about the cops busting you at the truck stop gloryhole??
As for your Supreme Court citations, you know they were all issued BEFORE they issued the Heller vs DC ruling that the Second Amendment is an "Individual self defense right" that has nothing to do with "militias". But of course you know that, don't you Woomby-tunes? ?
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I said saying that was a copout. Learn to read. If it has nothing to do with militias, then why even use that terminology?
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10-03-2015, 10:07 PM
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According to TWO founding fathers, you fucking moron. You've been caught in yet another lie, but what's new.
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You'd be the jackass liar that can't count, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." -- Richard Lee Federal Farmer XVIII, January 25, 1788.
"[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them." Zacharia Johnson speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 25, 1778.
"We established however some, although not all its [self-government] important principles . The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, (as in electing their functionaries executive and legislative, and deciding by a jury of themselves, in all judiciary cases in which any fact is involved,) or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." Thomas Jefferson letter to John Cartwright, 1824.
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." Thomas Jefferson letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785.
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States." Noah Webster An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787.
"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms." Thomas Jefferson, Draft Constitution for the State of Virginia, June, 1776.
"The great object is, that every man be armed ... Every one who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry.
"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46.
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And don't forget Heller vs D.C., you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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10-03-2015, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
You'd be the jackass liar that can't count, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
And don't forget Heller vs D.C., you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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You said all. You'd be the liar, you gay shitstain on the rainbow colored thong that is reytardo's life.
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10-03-2015, 10:18 PM
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You said all. You'd be the liar, you gay shitstain on the rainbow colored thong that is reytardo's life.
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Couldn't deal with the real facts of the issue so you immediately traipse off into faggot land, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. You're the cock-sucker in the rainbow colored thong hanging from your ears while you take a mouthful, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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10-03-2015, 10:28 PM
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Couldn't deal with the real facts of the issue so you immediately traipse off into faggot land, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. You're the cock-sucker in the rainbow colored thong hanging from your ears while you take a mouthful, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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The real facts were that not all the founding fathers said that. You insinuate they did. You lied. And the fact that you like rainbow colored shit is your problem, not mine.
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10-03-2015, 10:30 PM
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The real facts were that not all the founding fathers said that. You insinuate they did. You lied. And the fact that you like rainbow colored shit is your problem, not mine.
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The rainbow colored panties you wear over your pointed, dullard's head are blinding you to the real facts of the issue, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. What the Founding Fathers said -- and Heller -- trumps your sorry ass opinions every fuckin' day of the week, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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10-03-2015, 10:52 PM
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Did I say any of those things? The idea is to lower crime, idiot. And of course, you drag out Hitler, because he's a rational argument...
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You don't have to SAY it, mope. Your statement clearly IMPLIED it.
And, in this instance, there is nothing irrational about pointing to Hitler. He was, in fact, democratically elected. And millions of Germans, including ALL of the Jews, definitely needed guns as a result.
So, explain exactly how the existence of democracy means no private citizen needs a gun.
And THIS time, don't dodge the question.
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10-03-2015, 11:08 PM
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The link below is an easy straight up explanation of the terminology in the Second Amendment. Most of us already understand it. But for those few who don't look it over.
Jim
http://blog.heartland.org/2014/06/th...2nd-amendment/
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10-04-2015, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ExNYer
You don't have to SAY it, mope. Your statement clearly IMPLIED it.
And, in this instance, there is nothing irrational about pointing to Hitler. He was, in fact, democratically elected. And millions of Germans, including ALL of the Jews, definitely needed guns as a result.
So, explain exactly how the existence of democracy means no private citizen needs a gun.
And THIS time, don't dodge the question.
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I don't take orders from you, shitbag
Jesus Christ, what do you think this is? Somewhere you call the shots?
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10-04-2015, 12:41 AM
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Did someone hear something? A redundant echo from the past (or that passed?)
Did a camel just get his nose in the tent?
King of the wild frontier?
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10-04-2015, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Did someone hear something? A redundant echo from the past (or that passed?)
Did a camel just get his nose in the tent?
King of the wild frontier?
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