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Sir Lancehernot · 04-21-2015, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by joshua1

Yes, for sure and it sucks.....no replies to PM's- text messages- and no reason (s) provided by the provider.

From Fort Worth, huh? Sounds as if you and I know the same girl.

timothe · 04-21-2015, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Richardtx

No broken hearts....but major disappointments?..yes! You find that one provider who fits like a glove...perfect....then they stop trying.

Yes!! That's been my experience exactly. I meet one that I really like, enjoy their company for some period of time, then diminishing returns because she doesn't think she has to offer the same level of passion and energy as she did when we first met. This is probably the most difficult truth I've learned about the hobby...there is no ATF.

Gbfsl · 04-21-2015, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by timothe

Yes!! That's been my experience exactly. I meet one that I really like, enjoy their company for some period of time, then diminishing returns because she doesn't think she has to offer the same level of passion and energy as she did when we first met. This is probably the most difficult truth I've learned about the hobby...there is no ATF.

Then you just haven't found the right ATF. While I totally agree to not look for "love" here, or a RW relationship, I have had a few ATF's that I have seen for a year or more on average at least 2 to 3 times a month and they have never stopped trying. Never stopped bringing excitement and passion as well as variety to every session.

You know who you are and I thank you for every hour we have spent together.

Gbfsl · 04-22-2015, 04:45 AM

Here's another angle on this. Are you sure you are bringing your A game every time? Are you trying to do your share of keeping things exciting and keeping the passion alive? Maybe the complacency comes from you as well.
Do you bring the same thing to drink every time? If so, change it up. If you always bring Champaign, next time bring Firebrand Vodka. Bring Tequila and suggests some shots. Bring a Sweet Tea.
Do you wear the same type of clothes? If you always dress down or casual, show up in slacks and a nice shirt. If you are always dressed up, show up in jeans.
When was the last time you brought a new toy with you to play with? Or maybe you suggest taking her shopping for a new toy before your session. So you pick out something together then go back to a session and experiment with it.
When did you last suggest a new position or new technique you want to try?
If you are always a slow starter. A few drinks, nice slow kisses, leading to the main event. Next time open the door with a DFK, undress her, and fuck her like you hate her. Then say "hello".
Are you sure you are not following the same "routine" and approaching every session in the same manner?

Just something to think about. I used to do a lot of motivational speaking in my career. One of the first "tricks" I used to use in some speeches was to hand out a mirror to everyone in the room. As I would start to hear complaints about this or that. About how bad things were. About how things weren't like they used to be. I would ask them all to take out that mirror and hold it up to their face. I would tell them that the majority of the problems they are having starts with what they see in that mirror. If you don't like the way things are, what are you doing to change it? Most of the time the problem begins with you.

I am sure there will be many who say we are paying for this, it is up to the provider to keep it interesting and exciting. If that is your attitude, then finding an ATF may not be for you. Keep moving on to new providers each time and all will be great. But if you want an ATF, it is a two way street that takes a little work from both sides to keep it exciting.

Just sayin.

anonymousbusiness512 · 04-23-2015, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gbfsl

Here's another angle on this. Are you sure you are bringing your A game every time? Are you trying to do your share of keeping things exciting and keeping the passion alive? Maybe the complacency comes from you as well.
Do you bring the same thing to drink every time? If so, change it up. If you always bring Champaign, next time bring Firebrand Vodka. Bring Tequila and suggests some shots. Bring a Sweet Tea.
Do you wear the same type of clothes? If you always dress down or casual, show up in slacks and a nice shirt. If you are always dressed up, show up in jeans.
When was the last time you brought a new toy with you to play with? Or maybe you suggest taking her shopping for a new toy before your session. So you pick out something together then go back to a session and experiment with it.
When did you last suggest a new position or new technique you want to try?
If you are always a slow starter. A few drinks, nice slow kisses, leading to the main event. Next time open the door with a DFK, undress her, and fuck her like you hate her. Then say "hello".
Are you sure you are not following the same "routine" and approaching every session in the same manner?

Just something to think about. I used to do a lot of motivational speaking in my career. One of the first "tricks" I used to use in some speeches was to hand out a mirror to everyone in the room. As I would start to hear complaints about this or that. About how bad things were. About how things weren't like they used to be. I would ask them all to take out that mirror and hold it up to their face. I would tell them that the majority of the problems they are having starts with what they see in that mirror. If you don't like the way things are, what are you doing to change it? Most of the time the problem begins with you.

I am sure there will be many who say we are paying for this, it is up to the provider to keep it interesting and exciting. If that is your attitude, then finding an ATF may not be for you. Keep moving on to new providers each time and all will be great. But if you want an ATF, it is a two way street that takes a little work from both sides to keep it exciting.

Just sayin.

I've found alot of success in keeping things slightly different, usually with different clothes, gifts, activities, role playing, etc.

I also think alot of guys underestimate how much a provider actually appreciates it when you schedule for longer sessions and try to get to know them as a person, and not try to boom boom every minute you're there because you're in a rush. Sure, there are definitely providers out there that love that type of stuff, but for the most part I've found that if you just treat the ladies as ladies, and take time to get to know them abit (and not treat it like a fucking porn shoot) then your repeat sessions tend to be pretty damn good.

zipster · 04-23-2015, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gbfsl

Here's another angle on this. Are you sure you are bringing your A game every time? Are you trying to do your share of keeping things exciting and keeping the passion alive? Maybe the complacency comes from you as well.
Do you bring the same thing to drink every time? If so, change it up. If you always bring Champaign, next time bring Firebrand Vodka. Bring Tequila and suggests some shots. Bring a Sweet Tea.
Do you wear the same type of clothes? If you always dress down or casual, show up in slacks and a nice shirt. If you are always dressed up, show up in jeans.
When was the last time you brought a new toy with you to play with? Or maybe you suggest taking her shopping for a new toy before your session. So you pick out something together then go back to a session and experiment with it.
When did you last suggest a new position or new technique you want to try?
If you are always a slow starter. A few drinks, nice slow kisses, leading to the main event. Next time open the door with a DFK, undress her, and fuck her like you hate her. Then say "hello".
Are you sure you are not following the same "routine" and approaching every session in the same manner?

Just something to think about. I used to do a lot of motivational speaking in my career. One of the first "tricks" I used to use in some speeches was to hand out a mirror to everyone in the room. As I would start to hear complaints about this or that. About how bad things were. About how things weren't like they used to be. I would ask them all to take out that mirror and hold it up to their face. I would tell them that the majority of the problems they are having starts with what they see in that mirror. If you don't like the way things are, what are you doing to change it? Most of the time the problem begins with you.

I am sure there will be many who say we are paying for this, it is up to the provider to keep it interesting and exciting. If that is your attitude, then finding an ATF may not be for you. Keep moving on to new providers each time and all will be great. But if you want an ATF, it is a two way street that takes a little work from both sides to keep it exciting.

Just sayin.

I couldn't agree more GB. I met with one of my ATF's today and surprised her with her favorite wine and flowers. It actually made her cry that I gave her flowers! Surprisingly, she said it was the first time since she started hobbying that anyone has. She just stood there hugging me and crying for several minutes! I also wore her favorite color shirt which she also appreciated! I've seen her numerous times and today was probably the best session ever with her!! Little things like this make providers appreciate clients even more!! Happy hobbying!

ELLLVIS · 04-24-2015, 07:19 PM

Yep. When an ATF just up and disappeared. That really sucked.

Clit Lover · 04-24-2015, 10:08 PM

Yes

blackberry · 05-07-2015, 12:03 AM

Yes. Completely fell off the rails in love once...

Poppa_Viagra · 05-07-2015, 12:26 AM

Thius reminds me of the LewGrizard book, "She Ripped My Heart Out and Stomped That Sucker Flat".
From where Isit,m ATF's are a disaster waiting to happen. Sometimes one will get in my head and I have to run backwards.
Although one buddy was so head over heels with a hooker he rented her a car to go see her ailing mother, with his company credit card. Part of the car was later recovered in Oklahoma City. Just part. Obviously it ended badly for him.

Guest0220-1 · 05-07-2015, 04:17 AM

I had seen one provider over 4 years then just no response. This was very weird to me since she was the one who wanted me to do things that I never saw in her reviews and always gave me her half hour rate for an hour. But that is the illusion these girls give us being special somehow. But I was still paying thats the issue you need to realize which is hard at the time. I solved the heartbreak of losing a true bargain piece of ass, by just searching for another one. I have not found one that is just as good for the price, but I have had fun looking. I get heartbroken everytime I cum. Thats when I realize I could of just jerked off for free! lol.

seanj317 · 05-07-2015, 05:47 AM

Yes. My fault.

cheatercheater · 05-07-2015, 08:16 AM

Only once when she refused to consider my marriage proposal due to my already being married....

Kinky Boy · 05-07-2015, 10:35 AM

Yes, When a Fine Fox trys to 'up-charge' you...

Sir Lancehernot · 05-07-2015, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ELLLVIS

Yep. When an ATF just up and disappeared. That really sucked.

Yeah, the point where, after spending a lot of time with someone and starting to believe, you realize that your value to her was only as a source of cash and other assistance and that you otherwise had no reason for being in her life, where you're just thrown out like yesterday's trash, really sucks.