Evolution? Intelligent Design? God did it all in 7 days?

[forumguy456987]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Again this is like a broken record- why is it the mimic octopus only has this ability? There are other octopus species that can't mimic other animals- why only this specie? How does the DNA get passed on???? If it evolved it obviously could not do all these things at once? Again the ability to mimic at least 5 creatures to the point where the mimic octopus looks like a clone of that species had to be DESIGNED- there's no fucking way that ability was evolved- did you even listen to the moderator of the 2nd video I posted- she was a marine biologist who believes in evolution and admits how they are complexed and don't know how this could have been evolved.
You keep saying that perhaps the mimic octopus evolved this ability to hunt or survive well hello there are thousands of other sea animals that have to hunt and survive but can't mimic other creatures.

I am asking you to explain why some omnipotent, infinitely talented, creator designs goofy abilities to kill or simply not be killed. Why not just make the predators of this animal not want to eat it? You dodge questions. I don't have to prove evolution. Evolution has mountains of evidence in its favor. If you're counting citeable evidence, you have the Old Testament. If we omit fiction, well, tough tits.

[Guest032516]

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[bojulay]

Originally Posted by forumguy456987

I am asking you to explain why some omnipotent, infinitely talented, creator designs goofy abilities to kill or simply not be killed. Why not just make the predators of this animal not want to eat it? You dodge questions. I don't have to prove evolution. Evolution has mountains of evidence in its favor. If you're counting citeable evidence, you have the Old Testament. If we omit fiction, well, tough tits.

Micro evolution has proofs, yes.

There has never been any proof of Macro evolution found,
just the assumption that if one is true then so is the other.

But where is the proof, the thousands of missing link
fossils that have never been found, not even one true
missing link fossil.

This is the answer they always give, we just haven't found
them yet, but there would have to be thousands if not
millions of them, like sand on a beach.

Question to evolutionist: We sent you down to the beach to
get us some sand, where's the sand?

Answer: We just haven't found any yet.


One of the main reasons that many scientist have given up
on the THEORY of evolution. They omitted the fiction.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by forumguy456987

I am asking you to explain why some omnipotent, infinitely talented, creator designs goofy abilities to kill or simply not be killed. Why not just make the predators of this animal not want to eat it? You dodge questions. I don't have to prove evolution. Evolution has mountains of evidence in its favor. If you're counting citeable evidence, you have the Old Testament. If we omit fiction, well, tough tits.

You asking me questions that no one who believes in God can answer- I am not God and as a believer in God or higher power who am I or you to ask why he thinks or does things? Why does a snake when it lays eggs it never cares for it deposit the eggs and goes on about it's business not carrying whether they are eaten, hatched, etc. Hell if animals can talk they may ask if humans are so smart why do they kill each other land are for political reasons? You are asking me a question as if I know God. However here is the perfect Biblical verse for you and Ex-Nyer since you want to ask why God does or doesn't do certain things:

Isaiah 55:8: For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Old-T

You are right, you are a broken record.

I looked at the number of ladies I have spent time with. I can find no other guy who has seen exactly the same set of ladies. THAT MUST HAVE BEEN "DESIGNED"!

Actually, no it wasn't. And neither does any unusual situation have to be "designed" in order to be. You seem unwilling or incapable of separating the statistics involved in lagre number random events from deterministic events. Do yourself a favor: take a basic stats course, buy a lottery ticket, and take a thermodynamics or quantum mecanics overview. Look at the numbers that came up on the last big lottery jackpot--THEY MUST HAVE BEEN DESIGNED because you know what, they NEVER came up just like that in any other big ticket lottery! Wow, jusy look at that. PROVE to me that those numbers weren't designed. WHY of all the other lotteries has that winning combo not come up before? THAT'S PROOF for you that god hates almost all of us because he DESIGNED the numbers to come up that way for that specific person to win. Yep, he hates me, or he would have designed it differently. Contrary to Einstein, god does play dice. (Saw him at a craps table last time I was in Vegas).

Also notice, you have single handedly kept this thread alive for 600 posts now by your amazing inability to listen or think.

I see you still couldn't answer the question because you know the Mimic Octopus, Cheetah, Woodpecker, Butterfly, the Elephant's trunk the Giraffe's neck, the bombardier bettle, snake's venom all take a shit on the theory of evolution. Again even the narrator in the 2nd video of the Mimic Octopus was baffled- because anyone with a half brain knows that a mimic octopus could not have evolved all those trait- because too many complex things are going on- it was designed my friend- end of story- admit you have lost this debate and go google some more non sense you found on a pro evolution website or blog.

[forumguy456987]

Originally Posted by bojulay

Micro evolution has proofs, yes.

There has never been any proof of Macro evolution found,
just the assumption that if one is true then so is the other.

But where is the proof, the thousands of missing link
fossils that have never been found, not even one true
missing link fossil.

This is the answer they always give, we just haven't found
them yet, but there would have to be thousands if not
millions of them, like sand on a beach.

Question to evolutionist: We sent you down to the beach to
get us some sand, where's the sand?

Answer: We just haven't found any yet.


One of the main reasons that many scientist have given up
on the THEORY of evolution. They omitted the fiction.

Do you even understand what theory means in a scientific context? It doesn't mean a guess. The earth revolving around the sun? That's a theory too. why aren't you crying about the Bible saying otherwise? There are plenty of bits getting discovered all the time favoring evolutionary theory. What has popped up in the last couple millennia on your side? I don't expect you to think logically and follow what actual evidence suggests. If you're willing to worship a murderer, that's dedication that logic can't crack

[JCM800]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

I see you still couldn't answer the question because you know the Mimic Octopus, Cheetah, Woodpecker, Butterfly, the Elephant's trunk the Giraffe's neck, the bombardier bettle, snake's venom all take a shit on the theory of evolution. Again even the narrator in the 2nd video of the Mimic Octopus was baffled- because anyone with a half brain knows that a mimic octopus could not have evolved all those trait- because too many complex things are going on- it was designed my friend- end of story- admit you have lost this debate and go google some more non sense you found on a pro evolution website or blog.

um... i'm still not quite convinced. do you have about 10,000 more examples you might be willing to share?

[JCM800]

"Sometimes that shark looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a shark is he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn't even seem to be livin'... 'til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin' and your hollerin' those sharks come in and... they rip you to pieces!"

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[bojulay]

Originally Posted by forumguy456987

Do you even understand what theory means in a scientific context? It doesn't mean a guess. The earth revolving around the sun? That's a theory too. why aren't you crying about the Bible saying otherwise? There are plenty of bits getting discovered all the time favoring evolutionary theory. What has popped up in the last couple millennia on your side? I don't expect you to think logically and follow what actual evidence suggests. If you're willing to worship a murderer, that's dedication that logic can't crack

Theory Shmery, Love to argue semantics don't we.

Ok , the unproven not by even one fossil idea of Macro Evolution.
How does that work for you?

What murder do you so ever speak of?

By your logic we are all animals, if one animal kills another
who would call that murder? Just survival of the fittest.

You seen to lack the true courage of your conviction.

You need to get your rusty little spade out and go dig around
in the dirt some more.

[Yssup Rider]

I suppose now you're going to attack forum guy as a "bad christian," right Major Asshole?

why don't you go find some pussy and write a Christian review?

[forumguy456987]

Originally Posted by bojulay

Theory Shmery, Love to argue semantics don't we.

Semantics? "A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis or group of hypotheses that have been supported with repeated testing. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step—known as a theory—in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon." -- it's the definition of scientific theory.

Here's faith- Noun Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

Ok , the unproven not by even one fossil idea of Macro Evolution.
How does that work for you?

Judging by your posts I would guess you don't keep tight tabs on the scientific community and are rather just hitting the talking points and regurgitating garbage.

What murder do you so ever speak of?

If your source for "knowledge" is to be taken literally, how about the slaughter of all first born children in Egypt? Punishing innocent children for one man's misguided ways.

By your logic we are all animals, if one animal kills another
who would call that murder? Just survival of the fittest.

I'm asking why would anyone design such goofy defense mechanisms for a creature rather than just make it not be prey? Surely the creator of all instantaneous life could have come up with another food supply, rather than wanting to watch wildlife survivor

[bojulay]

Originally Posted by forumguy456987

Semantics? "A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis or group of hypotheses that have been supported with repeated testing. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step—known as a theory—in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon." -- it's the definition of scientific theory.

Here's faith- Noun Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

Judging by your posts I would guess you don't keep tight tabs on the scientific community and are rather just hitting the talking points and regurgitating garbage.

If your source for "knowledge" is to be taken literally, how about the slaughter of all first born children in Egypt? Punishing innocent children for one man's misguided ways.


I'm asking why would anyone design such goofy defense mechanisms for a creature rather than just make it not be prey? Surely the creator of all instantaneous life could have come up with another food supply, rather than wanting to watch wildlife survivor

Geez, it's like the stupid wheel that just keeps spinning.

They don't believe in God or even the possibility of there
being a God so that is not even considered a possibility.

So they go with what is left, unproven ideas about the origin
of life, that is all they have left, but of course they accept it as
the undeniable truth, because they don't believe in any possibility
of the existence of God whatsoever.

At least Dawkins has come clean a little bit and now says
that life could have been started on this planet by A HIGHER
INTELLIGENCE FROM SOMEWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE but he
wont go as far as to call it God, they wouldn't invite him
to any more of the parties if he did that.

The only real proof they have is the idea in their mind that
God doesn't exist.

[TGBeldin]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

I see you still couldn't answer the question because you know the Mimic Octopus, Cheetah, Woodpecker, Butterfly, the Elephant's trunk the Giraffe's neck, the bombardier bettle, snake's venom all take a shit on the theory of evolution. Again even the narrator in the 2nd video of the Mimic Octopus was baffled- because anyone with a half brain knows that a mimic octopus could not have evolved all those trait- because too many complex things are going on- it was designed my friend- end of story- admit you have lost this debate and go google some more non sense you found on a pro evolution website or blog.

You are one obstinate, pig headed guy. Since you can't understand something it can't be true? I had a long flight last night, and against my better judgement I read all 600 (seemed like 6000) posts. Most your questions were answered but you can't stand the answers. No one lost the debate because there was none. Just you 2 farting up wind.

Originally Posted by bojulay

Geez, it's like the stupid wheel that just keeps spinning.

They don't believe in God or even the possibility of there
being a God so that is not even considered a possibility.

So they go with what is left, unproven ideas about the origin
of life, that is all they have left, but of course they accept it as
the undeniable truth, because they don't believe in any possibility
of the existence of God whatsoever.

At least Dawkins has come clean a little bit and now says
that life could have been started on this planet by A HIGHER
INTELLIGENCE FROM SOMEWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE but he
wont go as far as to call it God, they wouldn't invite him
to any more of the parties if he did that.

The only real proof they have is the idea in their mind that
God doesn't exist.

It's a tossup who is more deaf on here. Lots of posters freely admit they believe in God AND in evolution. So do I for that matter. It's your kind that thinks God is incapable of using evolution as His method. You prefer God the Great and Powerful Oz. I don't.

[bojulay]

Originally Posted by TGBeldin

You are one obstinate, pig headed guy. Since you can't understand something it can't be true? I had a long flight last night, and against my better judgement I read all 600 (seemed like 6000) posts. Most your questions were answered but you can't stand the answers. No one lost the debate because there was none. Just you 2 farting up wind.




It's a tossup who is more deaf on here. Lots of posters freely admit they believe in God AND in evolution. So do I for that matter. It's your kind that thinks God is incapable of using evolution as His method. You prefer God the Great and Powerful Oz. I don't.

Here is one for the deaf.

Micro evolution is evident.

Macro evolution has never been proven.

If you don't know the difference do a little research.

Just a fact, that's all.

And science has not even a clue as to how life started
on this planet. Maybe Dawkins higher intelligence
from somewhere in the universe did it.

Is there an echo in here?

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by bojulay

Geez, it's like the stupid wheel that just keeps spinning.

They don't believe in God or even the possibility of there
being a God so that is not even considered a possibility.

So they go with what is left, unproven ideas about the origin
of life, that is all they have left, but of course they accept it as
the undeniable truth, because they don't believe in any possibility
of the existence of God whatsoever.

At least Dawkins has come clean a little bit and now says
that life could have been started on this planet by A HIGHER
INTELLIGENCE FROM SOMEWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE but he
wont go as far as to call it God, they wouldn't invite him
to any more of the parties if he did that.

The only real proof they have is the idea in their mind that
God doesn't exist.

The most zealous supporters of evolution are usually atheists.

The acceptance of evolution, hook line and sinker as a satisfactory explaination for life is driven by a desire to take God out of the equation. That's why the evolution believers are so passionate about their belief.

The worst are full of passionate intensity.