Haggling, Negotiating Pricing, Gifts and Being A Cheap Bastard.... does it work?

[RedLeg505]

Originally Posted by Devon Derriere

Its my business and i see who i want. Majority of my guys are clients who prefer being discrete and utr.

Actually, Devon is a perfect example of the provider's saying no provider is ever "overpriced".

Devon ' s rate is higher than many in the Oklahoma area, because she uses that as one of many deliberate choices to weed out her clientele, so that she sees only those she wants to see. I have seen her many times, and feel I get my money's worth so I don't consider her "overpriced". To be clear, I also see other ladies in Oklahoma with lower rates, perhaps a bit more often because of the price difference, but I have no problems with her chosen rates and gladly pay her higher rate because I get a service worth every penny.

[thebuffmantraples]

Originally Posted by RedLeg505

Actually, Devon is a perfect example of the provider's saying no provider is ever "overpriced".

Devon ' s rate is higher than many in the Oklahoma area, because she uses that as one of many deliberate choices to weed out her clientele, so that she sees only those she wants to see. I have seen her many times, and feel I get my money's worth so I don't consider her "overpriced". To be clear, I also see other ladies in Oklahoma with lower rates, perhaps a bit more often because of the price difference, but I have no problems with her chosen rates and gladly pay her higher rate because I get a service worth every penny.

You have over 60 reviews and just guessing you hobby more then what that number suggest. I think that number is way above average for a reviewer!
I'm going to say you are a habitual hobbyist and assume she lied about not meeting with habituals.

Why would she say she doesn't see habituals? I'm sure Devon is a great pro provider and beautiful too. Why generalize and lie? I bet most of the guys she does meet hobby more then I do and I'm a habitual.

Getting back on topic, yes it all works when done right!
Question was does it work, yes it works. Some ladies just don't like the whole Idea but that's not the point.
It all has its place and time. Just like the upsell on services or provider.

[RedLeg505]

Originally Posted by thebuffmantraples

I'm going to say you are a habitual hobbyist and assume she lied about not meeting with habituals.

Why would she say she doesn't see habituals?

Not by HER definition of "habitual" which I read to mean, those who "habitually " try to get over by booking 30 min and stay for an hour, or constantly try to renegotiate price.

[Guest052616]

Originally Posted by thebuffmantraples

You have over 60 reviews and just guessing you hobby more then what that number suggest. I think that number is way above average for a reviewer!
I'm going to say you are a habitual hobbyist and assume she lied about not meeting with habituals.

Why would she say she doesn't see habituals? I'm sure Devon is a great pro provider and beautiful too. Why generalize and lie? I bet most of the guys she does meet hobby more then I do and I'm a habitual.

Getting back on topic, yes it all works when done right!
Question was does it work, yes it works. Some ladies just don't like the whole Idea but that's not the point.
It all has its place and time. Just like the upsell on services or provider.

Thank you redleg.

Buff sir, Redleg is one of the few i still see since i implemented my new policies. And he doesnt post a review EVERY single time he sees the same lady. As you can go back and read, i didnt say ALL habitual hobbyist were hagglers.. and he is one of the few that prove that. Infact i just see him as a hobbyist, not so much habitual. I STILL see those ones that i had a passionate, non haggling, connection with.. but they are very few and they were regulars from before i started this. So, no, i did not lie. I implemented several new policies starting this year and it has weeded out haggling, drama, those that lack discretion, etc. But even with those new policies, there are regulars that ive continued to see because they DONT do that stuff stated above.

Again, i dont see u as a habitual hobbyist. You can see 5 providers a week and id never know as you dont post a review EACH time you see one, even if its one you have seen a dozen times.

[fishboy]

Originally Posted by joesmo888

if you are a heavy volume hobbyist then saving a little does help

what confuses me is when providers advertise a price on their profiles on p411, eccie, website etc that are all different. do you just pick the lowest one or do you average them ? lol.. I think providers should double check their rates are consistent or things can get confusing

I've had that happen twice out of only eight goes at this game and both times it worked in my favor as I got the lower price (and provider was happy I found the mistake) and grandfathered me. I wasn't actually digging for the lowest it just happened that I started where it was lowest and then in reading reviews found a discrepancy. Didn't hurt that she is top shelf too physically and mentally!

Other time I actually think gal was a bit new and playing a sliding scale
Which ended up still being a good deal for me but that was also because I liked what I got

I only had one clock watcher out of eight (which fricking killed it for me) and that is pretty good but that is a whole 'nother thread!!! Not looking for free time (but also have been totally blown away at how much I have been given! Thank you ladies) but can't stand the "oh crap somehow I gotta blow in five minutes!" feeling one bit. I understand there are schedules to keep but this happened when I know there was nobody else coming. Anyway despite her ncredible physical beauty and sex machine drive I will not be back - unless I wanna just walk in and pound the kitty for the entire time just to make me feel better but I'm not like that. I prefer 1.5-2 hour sessions always for drinks and chit chat before play time but that does get pricey so sadly might not be able to do that forever unless my fortunes change soon ;-)

[thebuffmantraples]

Originally Posted by Devon Derriere

Thank you redleg.

Buff sir, Redleg is one of the few i still see since i implemented my new policies. And he doesnt post a review EVERY single time he sees the same lady. As you can go back and read, i didnt say ALL habitual hobbyist were hagglers.. and he is one of the few that prove that. Infact i just see him as a hobbyist, not so much habitual. I STILL see those ones that i had a passionate, non haggling, connection with.. but they are very few and they were regulars from before i started this. So, no, i did not lie. I implemented several new policies starting this year and it has weeded out haggling, drama, those that lack discretion, etc. But even with those new policies, there are regulars that ive continued to see because they DONT do that stuff stated above.

Again, i dont see u as a habitual hobbyist. You can see 5 providers a week and id never know as you dont post a review EACH time you see one, even if its one you have seen a dozen times.

So after just barely implementing new policies you are quickly culling most habituals by your own words?
I don't consider haggling drama, now some people get dramatic but it shouldn't be if were all grown up about it.
The guy you used as example earlier did you state you contacted him? You know the 1/2hr guy.

[Guest052616]

Originally Posted by thebuffmantraples

So after just barely implementing new policies you are quickly culling most habituals by your own words?
I don't consider haggling drama, now some people get dramatic but it shouldn't be if were all grown up about it.
The guy you used as example earlier did you state you contacted him? You know the 1/2hr guy.

No, i did not contact him. He contacted me for an appt. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and learned a lesson from it. Other than that, im done with explaining. I gave my own opinion on my experience. I am able to be picky and choose who i will and will not see. My screening doesnt just weed out possible LE and dangerous guys... So far my policies have made this year a wonderful year filled with gents id see again and again. You are not a provider so you have no idea the BS, time wasters, hagglers, cheap asses and drama that we get from guys.

I wish you a happy valentines day. My apologies if my own experience offended ya.

[thebuffmantraples]

Originally Posted by Devon Derriere

No, i did not contact him. He contacted me for an appt. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and learned a lesson from it. Other than that, im done with explaining. I gave my own opinion on my experience. I am able to be picky and choose who i will and will not see. My screening doesnt just weed out possible LE and dangerous guys... So far my policies have made this year a wonderful year filled with gents id see again and again. You are not a provider so you have no idea the BS, time wasters, hagglers, cheap asses and drama that we get from guys.

I wish you a happy valentines day. My apologies if my own experience offended ya.

You think that shit only happens to providers? This is a two way street honey.
Glad you figured out how to be a better provider.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by thebuffmantraples

You have over 60 reviews and just guessing you hobby more then what that number suggest. I think that number is way above average for a reviewer!
I'm going to say you are a habitual hobbyist and assume she lied about not meeting with habituals.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by Devon Derriere

No, i did not contact him. He contacted me for an appt. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and learned a lesson from it. Other than that, im done with explaining. I gave my own opinion on my experience. I am able to be picky and choose who i will and will not see. My screening doesnt just weed out possible LE and dangerous guys... So far my policies have made this year a wonderful year filled with gents id see again and again. You are not a provider so you have no idea the BS, time wasters, hagglers, cheap asses and drama that we get from guys.

I wish you a happy valentines day. My apologies if my own experience offended ya.

I believe it!