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Old 05-01-2013, 01:04 AM   #46
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No doubt. Timmy gets a base hit every now and then.
Without getting rid of the 16th, then its just Steve Forbes flat tax proposal.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:04 AM   #47
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No doubt. Timmy gets a base hit every now and then.
Without getting rid of the 16th, then its just Steve Forbes flat tax proposal.
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:00 AM   #48
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They can't...but the IRS sure can, thats another reason to create a federal program. They can regulate and control that right along with Obamacare
Then just create a Federal sales tax for internet transactions .... then "we" have to decide if SERVICES are included in the tax scheme, so that the SERVICES of those who ADVERTISE on the internet are taxable.
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:56 AM   #49
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Clearly a tax on the middle class and as a result there is no way Obama would pass legislation that would increase taxes to the middle class............
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:08 AM   #50
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Have to admit it. Timmy's right on this one. Unless the 16th Amendment is repealed, we ought not consider any form of national sales tax.
Too funny, gritsboy. Your solution to everything is some grandiose sounding one sentence piece of horsepucky that accomplishes nothing. The only things you come up with that have more than two sentences in them are your 18+K cut'n'paste jobs. ExNyer is right about you - long on whine and short on cheese.

Now, for the adults in our audience who posses rudimentary cognitive skills, all of the necessary mechanisms are already in place to implement the collection and remittance of sales taxes to any entity, anywhere. Any merchant that collects sales tax, I'll use Texas as an example here, collects it at a rate comprised of the state rate plus the county and municipality rates where it is located. So, if you live in Gainesville and buy something in Dallas you pay the rates for the location in Dallas. Currently, if you buy something from home and it is shipped to you, you pay applicable taxes from where it is shipped - not where it is shipped to. Other states, Wyoming, Colorado and Oklahoma are ones I have personal knowledge of, collect sales taxes based on the rates where possession takes place i.e., where the item is shipped to. It doesn't matter, really, because there are simple to implement tax computation applications available with all point of sale and accounting software packages. Then, the merchant sends all collected taxes to the state of Texas Comptroller's office where it is broken down to the components and remitted to each entity, city, county, special taxing authorities, etc. As an aside, the same thing happens with the collection of property and ad valorem taxes but each county performs this function. These mechanisms already exists and do not call for the reinvention of the wheel.

Captain Midnight brings us the most salient point - the subsidy of some business vs others. You want to go into business? OK, be prepared for certain startup costs of which point of sale and accounting software is one of several. Very few who have posted here have gotten past some form of Valley Girl emotionalism-driven "they're taxing us into the poor house and 50% of the people are freeloaders!" I have only one thing to say to you, the sales tax is less than 9% of the total cost of whatever it is you buy, so if you can't handle that, don't buy it. Grow the hell up. If you're operating on that short of a margin you might want to take a look at how you manage your expenses and the needs that drive them. It sounds to me that "the 50% freeloaders" aren't the only ones with entitlement issues.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:34 AM   #51
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But my take on this issue can be boiled down to this very simple question: Why should one type of merchant receive a de facto subsidy which advantages it relative to other types of merchants?



This should not be considered a partisan "conservative vs. liberal" issue.

It's simply a matter of equity.


Well said.

Here is a link that explains what they are trying to do.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...blunt/2034847/
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RaggedyAndy, your post had nothing to do with my comment. Yet you used it as an excuse to insult me. Interesting.
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gritsboy, you've got that one sentence thing going again - once again long on whine but short on cheese. Verrrryy interesting...but void of meaning. I guess that being a state's right "libertarian" means that you don't think the states are due their legal sales tax revenue which, by the way, were passed by the states not the feds. Grow up, pissant.
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RaggedyAndy, your post had nothing to do with my comment. Yet you used it as an excuse to insult me. Interesting.
And had he chose not to "insult" you, it would have been a wasted opportunity!
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:45 PM   #55
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gritsboy, you've got that one sentence thing going again - once again long on whine but short on cheese. Verrrryy interesting...but void of meaning. I guess that being a state's right "libertarian" means that you don't think the states are due their legal sales tax revenue which, by the way, were passed by the states not the feds. Grow up, pissant.
The voices in your head are getting louder, RaggedyAndy. Please post where I said anything remotely resembling what you are saying I said.

Same to you, BiSex. You love that he insulted me, but I didn't say what he thinks I said. You're as big an idiot as he is. No, wait. Even RaggedyAndy isn't that big an idiot.

RA, please return to therapy. The voices are not your friends.
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