Why I Oppose Barack Obama

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Only if you think that spending 2 trillion dollars and having 4 thousand soldiers die to find corroded WMD's from 1980's that were non-functional was a good idea.

A detailed reply to her nonsense is coming.

See, now here I got all excited, waiting with baited breath for a thoughtful, cogent, and detailed reply.

Originally Posted by flghtr65

From the Link posted by JD. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...pons.html?_r=0



The discoveries of these chemical weapons did not support the government’s invasion rationale.
After the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Mr. Bush insisted that Mr. Hussein was hiding an active weapons of mass destruction program, in defiance of international will and at the world’s risk. United Nations inspectors said they could not find evidence for these claims.
Then, during the long occupation, American troops began encountering old chemical munitions in hidden caches and roadside bombs. Typically 155-millimeter artillery shells or 122-millimeter rockets, they were remnants of an arms program Iraq had rushed into production in the 1980s during the Iran-Iraq war.
All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them.
In case after case, participants said, analysis of these warheads and shells reaffirmed intelligence failures. First, the American government did not find what it had been looking for at the war’s outset, then it failed to prepare its troops and medical corps for the aged weapons it did find.

Yes, these corroded weapons from the 1980's that can't be used don't count. This is not what Bush sold to the American people. Do you think it was worth 2 trillion dollars and the life of 4 thousand soldiers to find corroded weapons from the 1980's. If you do you have lost your mind.

Then it turns out this was the best you had to offer. Sigh. Off to the corner with Zanzibar for you. All talk, no walk.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

Yes, actually it failed. Massively. Numerous reports have shown that disbursement of stimulus funds was rife with cronyism, fraud, and abuse, funds did not go to supposed 'shovel ready' projects, and ultimately had no impact on stabilizing the economy, reducing unemployment, or saving jobs. Once again, those annoying little things called facts just keep getting in your way.

Failed massively? Not according to this economist. From the link.

Stimulus Plan Results

The package did better than planned. By the close of FY 2009, $241.9 billion had been spent: $92.8 billion in tax relief, $86.5 billion in unemployment and other benefits and $62.6 billion in job creation grants. In the FY 2012 budget, additional funding was allocated to raise the total to $840 billion.
By December 31, 2013, $816.3 billion had been spent: $290.7 billion in tax relief, $264.4 billion in benefits, and $261.2 billion in contracts, grants or loans, and . (Source: Recovery.gov)



http://useconomy.about.com/od/candid...a_Stimulus.htm

Now why don't you give us a link that has a report that shows no jobs were saved.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Failed massively? Not according to this economist. From the link.

Stimulus Plan Results

The package did better than planned. By the close of FY 2009, $241.9 billion had been spent: $92.8 billion in tax relief, $86.5 billion in unemployment and other benefits and $62.6 billion in job creation grants. In the FY 2012 budget, additional funding was allocated to raise the total to $840 billion.
By December 31, 2013, $816.3 billion had been spent: $290.7 billion in tax relief, $264.4 billion in benefits, and $261.2 billion in contracts, grants or loans, and . (Source: Recovery.gov)



http://useconomy.about.com/od/candid...a_Stimulus.htm

Now why don't you give us a link that has a report that shows no jobs were saved.

Terminal Kool-Aid poisoning. Sad.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Terminal Kool-Aid poisoning. Sad.

Really? Kimberly Amadeo knows more about economics than you or SOF. COF you are all talk and no walk.

Was the Stimulus Act a Success?

By most economic indicators, it was. In March 2009, before it was launched, Q1 GDP was -5.4% and the Dow had slid to 6,594.44 on March 5, 2009.. By Q4 2009, GDP was up 3.9% and the Dow had risen to 10,428.
Not all of that success can be attributed to the Stimulus Package, since expansive monetary policy and strong emerging markets also helped boost the economy. However, those were all in place in March 2009. No doubt, the economic stimulus package inspired the confidence needed to turn the economy around. Article updated August 13, 2014

[CuteOldGuy]

"If you laid all the economists in the world end to end, they'd point in all directions." That was Harry Truman, Fluffy. Look up from your Kool-Aid sotted stupor and take a look. The economy is in the tank.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

"If you laid all the economists in the world end to end, they'd point in all directions." That was Harry Truman, Fluffy. Look up from your Kool-Aid sotted stupor and take a look. The economy is in the tank.

Professor COF you don't have any numbers to dispute what she wrote. All you have is some lame phrase from Truman. The stimulus worked. BTW, you catch the 3rd quarter earnings reports? Companies are making money, that is why DJIA the closed at 17,390 today. Was the school that you taught economics at accredited?

[matchingmole]

I don't like Odumbo..

[Yssup Rider]

Who is Odumbo?

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by matchingmole

I don't like Odumbo..

Sixty five million people do like Obama, that is why Mitt lost by 5 MILLION votes.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Be sure to read all 3 pages


Remember When Obama Was The Messiah?


11:25 PM 11/01/2014

ERIC OWENS

President Barack Obama had an approval rating of just 38 percent as of late September and he is having a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad year.

This week, the man who once filled arenas like a rock star suffered the indignity of Wisconsin Democrats walking out on him as he stumped for another struggling Democrat, Mary Burke. Obama’s visit to Wisconsin coincided with the disappearance of Burke’s modest lead in statewide polls. She now trails her opponent, Scott Walker, by seven points.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/01/re...s-the-messiah/






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[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Be sure to read all 3 pages


Remember When Obama Was The Messiah?


11:25 PM 11/01/2014

ERIC OWENS

President Barack Obama had an approval rating of just 38 percent as of late September and he is having a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad year.

This week, the man who once filled arenas like a rock star suffered the indignity of Wisconsin Democrats walking out on him as he stumped for another struggling Democrat, Mary Burke. Obama’s visit to Wisconsin coincided with the disappearance of Burke’s modest lead in statewide polls. She now trails her opponent, Scott Walker, by seven points.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/01/re...s-the-messiah/






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IFFY, even with a 39% approval rating, that is still better than when Bush left office and better than the do nothing Congress. People don't like the individual mandate because people don't like being told they must by health insurance. Romneycare has the same thing, people don't mind that.

[nevergaveitathought]

I don't like Obama for any number of valid reasons, many have already been listed

maybe the three below have already been mentioned but since they bother me greatly, at the risk of repeating someone's post, I will list them anyway

all of his lying and fraudulency and incompetence's and inabilities has been mentioned here so many times I wont list them, what I will list are his competencies

1. his total unwillingness to compromise

2. his quasi-socialism within America and his withdrawal of leadership without America

3. his racism

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

IFFY, even with a 39% approval rating, that is still better than when Bush left office ......

Obaminable has a couple of more years, plus a few months to ... beat Bush!

Don't dispair; he will best Bush for the bottom. May be Carter.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Obaminable has a couple of more years, plus a few months to ... beat Bush!

Don't dispair; he will best Bush for the bottom. May be Carter.

Unless there is another Wall Street meltdown, that won't happen. With the passage of the Dodd/Frank bill what happened on Wall Street in 2008 should not happen again. Nothing will top Bush invading Iraq and spending 2 trillion to find corroded weapons from the 1980's that don't work.

[IIFFOFRDB]

LOLLLL! Butt Sucker if you need to know what "LOLLLL!" means ... PM me


215,000 Doctors (1 in 4 Nationally, 70% in California) Refuse Obamacare Patients Over Payment Issues

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