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01-11-2021, 03:16 PM
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Given that, what are you hoping to happen berry? Do you want the government to compel private companies to allow hate speech and misinformation? Seems like you're in a catch 22 here.
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Haha... funny how the way you formulate the question distorts the issue. How about if I change the question to read:
Do you want the government to allow private companies to discriminate on the basis of political viewpoint?
It's against the law to discriminate based on sex, race, religion, etc. Why should it be legal based on viewpoint? Seems like you're in a catch 22 here.
You might also want to ask a moderator on eccie or any social media platform if there is a clear line separating rudeness from "hate speech". Or separating a dissenting opinion from "misinformation". I sure as hell wouldn't trust you to be making those calls.
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01-11-2021, 03:27 PM
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however I do believe that Facebook is one of the more harmful entities on the planet right now, so I would not miss it, if it went goodbye.
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Hey el-mo, if you hate facebook now, wait til you read this...
https://www.theatlantic.com/newslett...achine/617401/
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01-11-2021, 08:06 PM
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Cool - now do Parler. Parler policed their forums as they saw fit, just like Twitter and Facebook. But Big tech conspired to remove Parler from the internet as part of the mass silencing of opposition voices.
Again, I don't care what side you are on, this should be chilling and appalling to anyone with a working brain and knowledge of history.
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I expected that you and your ilk wouldn't be able to answer the question, and you weren't able to, because like I said it's catch 22.
Here, lets try another one: do you want the government to forcibly compel Amazon to do business with Parler?
FB, Twitter, IG, etc., don't censor people because of their political affiliation. They censor people based on criteria written out in their user agreement. Typically for posting lies or hate speech. Tens of millions of Republicans continue to post on these platforms on a daily basis.
Sadly, members of the Cult of Ignorance, Cult 45, show blatant disregard for the facts. "Waaaaaaa. They censored me because I'm a republican. They censored me because I love Furher Trump." No, dummy. They censored you because you violated the policies that you agreed to.
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01-11-2021, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh
I expected that you and your ilk wouldn't be able to answer the question, and you weren't able to, because like I said it's catch 22.
Here, lets try another one: do you want the government to forcibly compel Amazon to do business with Parler?
FB, Twitter, IG, etc., don't censor people because of their political affiliation. They censor people based on criteria written out in their user agreement. Typically for posting lies or hate speech. Tens of millions of Republicans continue to post on these platforms on a daily basis.
Sadly, members of the Cult of Ignorance, Cult 45, show blatant disregard for the facts. "Waaaaaaa. They censored me because I'm a republican. They censored me because I love Furher Trump." No, dummy. They censored you because you violated the policies that you agreed to.
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actually, i posted an answer to your question. you must have missed i. those rules need to be enforced by all or none or it is then censorship and polictically based. if you are going to say no post by biden, polusi or shumer contained lies or mis truths, then you are not being honest or very stupid, I would like to think you are not stupid.
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01-11-2021, 08:32 PM
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitte...s-still-active
im not a twitter guy, so i have no idea if this is still out there or not, but ask yourself, regardless how you feel polictically
does this seem like twitter is acting even handedly in its ways..........
like i said before, both sides should be very concerned over these companies and the amount of power and influence they have
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01-11-2021, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chizzy
https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitte...s-still-active
im not a twitter guy, so i have no idea if this is still out there or not, but ask yourself, regardless how you feel polictically
does this seem like twitter is acting even handedly in its ways..........
like i said before, both sides should be very concerned over these companies and the amount of power and influence they have
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There's more than 2 sides. And since this is a precedent setter they're going to deservedly earn whatever PR flak comes their way regarding even-handedness if they fail to apply the rules fairly.
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01-11-2021, 10:07 PM
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Here, lets try another one: do you want the government to forcibly compel Amazon to do business with Parler?
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Gee, I thought businesses are supposed to welcome every customer who walks in the door. You don't make money by turning them away. Evidently you think it's ok for businesses to discriminate against people based on their political views. I think it's not only illegal, but it's also a bad business strategy to shun and piss off tens of millions of your customers.
And I'm not the only one thinking that. Apple, Amazon and Google all saw their stock prices drop over 2% today. Twitter sank more than 6%.
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01-11-2021, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh
I expected that you and your ilk wouldn't be able to answer the question, and you weren't able to, because like I said it's catch 22.
Here, lets try another one: do you want the government to forcibly compel Amazon to do business with Parler?
FB, Twitter, IG, etc., don't censor people because of their political affiliation.
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First, you wrote your initial question in a way to distort the issue - so I am not playing that silly game of yours.
Second, you specifically said "Twitter, FB, etc. can police their forums however they see fit." Well if they can do that why can't Parler? You don't get to have one set of rules for Liberals and another for Conservatives.
And yes, Facebook, Twitter, etc DO censor people because of the political affiliation,. You bury your head in the sand and cheer it on - that is what people of your ilk do. Hell just in the last day, Facebook censored the page of noted Libertarian Ron Paul. Ron broke no rules, received no warning, nothing. But Facebook censored the page and removed his ability to administer it. But I guess you cheer that on to.
On your latest question where you try to play another silly game to distort the issue, at a minimum, Amazon needed to adhere to the contract it signed with Parler which requires 30 day notice before any termination of service.
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01-12-2021, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by chizzy
https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitte...s-still-active
im not a twitter guy, so i have no idea if this is still out there or not, but ask yourself, regardless how you feel polictically
does this seem like twitter is acting even handedly in its ways..........
like i said before, both sides should be very concerned over these companies and the amount of power and influence they have
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That is accurate Chizzy. The Ayatollah Khomeini, Louis Farrakan and Commmunist China are all on Twitter. And if you want to know how bad/chilling Twitter's actions were, you had the German Chanceller, the Mexican President and France all speaking out publicly and condemning Twitter's actions. So you have leaders of other countries, both on the Center-Right and on the Left recognizing this is an attack on free speech by unelected oligarchs
You know it's bad when *GERMANY* is calling out the United States over fascist behavior - German Chancellor Angela Merkel attacks Twitter over banning President Trump, calling it a "problematic" breach of the "fundamental right to free speech." She warned it is a clear overreach by the bosses of American social media platforms.
You can listen to the Mexican President's warnings about Silicon Valley censorship when asked about the Trump ban. Following the center-right Chancellor Merkel, the leftist AMLO said they were becoming “a world media power" anointing themselves "judges of the Holy Inquisition":
https://twitter.com/i/status/1348748206159654913
BTW - Twitter has now suspended over 70,000 conservative accounts since Friday
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01-12-2021, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by berryberry
BTW - Twitter has now suspended over 70,000 conservative accounts since Friday
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I think you mean 70K QAnon accounts.
My understanding of conservatism it advocates for smaller government, rather than organizing armed revolt against the US government on account of crazy conspiracy theories that politicians are Satanist pedophiles.
Hey BerryBerry, how about you shut the fuck up, put your money where your mouth is, grab your zip ties and whatever piece of clothing you own with the cheeziest American Eagle graphic, and try your luck this Sunday in Washington DC?
Then rport back and let us know how it goes.
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01-12-2021, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Gee, I thought businesses are supposed to welcome every customer who walks in the door. You don't make money by turning them away. Evidently you think it's ok for businesses to discriminate against people based on their political views. I think it's not only illegal, but it's also a bad business strategy to shun and piss off tens of millions of your customers.
And I'm not the only one thinking that. Apple, Amazon and Google all saw their stock prices drop over 2% today. Twitter sank more than 6%.
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You mean like businesses which discriminate and refuse to do business with gay and lesbian people under the guise of "religious liberty?"
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01-12-2021, 08:47 AM
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Well, just like I predicted, none of you far right wing guys have been able to answer the question. You've all danced around it. There are tens of millions of "conservatives" still on FB and Twitter, so to say they're censoring people because they're "conservatives" is simply a lie. I think I'll take another break from trying to reason with the unreasonable.
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01-12-2021, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh
Well, just like I predicted, none of you far right wing guys have been able to answer the question. You've all danced around it. There are tens of millions of "conservatives" still on FB and Twitter, so to say they're censoring people because they're "conservatives" is simply a lie. I think I'll take another break from trying to reason with the unreasonable.
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Hmmm guess I was wrong... since you twice got your answer but pretend not to see it..... stupid and immature may apply.....
Take a break, you wont be missed
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01-12-2021, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Gee, I thought businesses are supposed to welcome every customer who walks in the door. You don't make money by turning them away. Evidently you think it's ok for businesses to discriminate against people based on their political views. I think it's not only illegal, but it's also a bad business strategy to shun and piss off tens of millions of your customers.
And I'm not the only one thinking that. Apple, Amazon and Google all saw their stock prices drop over 2% today. Twitter sank more than 6%.
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They did let everyone through the door. Then they kicked out the ones who couldn’t behave. There was no discrimination against conservatives. They simply expelled problem users. You can go in Twitter right now and be as conservative as you like, just so long as you don’t incite violence.
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01-12-2021, 09:21 AM
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So why didn’t the blm terrorists get tossed when every one of their riots was organized on social media?
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