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Old 10-16-2021, 09:11 PM   #46
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where are we supposed to turn to if you think it's all bullshit?
none of this has a political solution. There is no difference in your tribe / parties. None of this started in the last few years.



WHERE to turn? How about yourself?
I have presented a case on why you shouldn't just be spoonfed opinions from an agency proven to lead you astray and your question is asking for a better agency to be spoonfed from?


how about **thinking for yourself**?
I take it you didn't see the response in post #27 with the video on the state of journalism. Why don't you just slow down before you manically hit POST and bother yourself with reading replies, first?

You read an AP story, then just interrogate the veracity of what they are reporting. Everyone should be doing this anyway, regardless if it is covid or not.
Much of what is reported are half-truths, like "HOSPITALS ARE AT 70% CAPACITY"
well, they are implying that is from COVID in a "COVID STORY" article. If you look closer, you'll see that 1) hospitals are meant to be occupied. That's how they make money. 2) the statement can be true without being indicative due to COVID (inpatients from newborn, oncology, etc) 3) what is the scope ? A really cheap practice our state would do was always get quotes from the SMALLEST HOSPITAL in the state. Well, no shit, they're struggling to keep up....they only have 15 beds total.
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Old 10-16-2021, 09:22 PM   #47
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I'm not a doctor. I have to trust my doctor. That's all you had to say from the beginning.

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Old 10-16-2021, 09:26 PM   #48
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This is not a vaccination battle. It is a mandate battle.

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Old 10-16-2021, 09:33 PM   #49
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I'm not a doctor.
doctors are glorified Certified ASCE mechanics.

They can only do what they're allowed to do. What they're allowed to do is only that which will be reimbursed.
You DO know physicians are incentivized for Population Health on what percentage of their patients are vaxxed, right?



You just default to any perceived authority and blindly follow? :laughin g1:
you're the perfect goyim
NEVER question anything. Great strategy and compelling argument
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Old 10-16-2021, 09:37 PM   #50
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doctors are glorified Certified ASCE mechanics.

They can only do what they're allowed to do. What they're allowed to do is only that which will be reimbursed.
You DO know physicians are incentivized for Population Health on what percentage of their patients are vaxxed, right?



You just default to any perceived authority and blindly follow? :laughin g1:
you're the perfect goyim

No, I don't know that because I'm not a conspiracy theorist like you.












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theorists
a "theory", by your definition, is anything that goes against what those in power are shoveling down your throat.

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Old 10-16-2021, 09:44 PM   #52
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a "theory", by your definition, is anything that goes against what those in power are shoveling down your throat.

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Proof, by your definition, is believing the same shit you call bullshit.











No sense at all.
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Proof, by your definition, is...
you obviously are a closed circuit. You cannot receive any new input. cool.
I have provided cut and dry decision points. True/False. You can come to whatever conclusion you want after that.

You're unable to process information from data. You can only be told what to think by someone else. Hope that works for you.
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Old 10-16-2021, 09:57 PM   #54
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You mean like I'm supposed to believe your sources when all sources are lies? See how that makes sense? I don't.
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After Delta became the most common variant, people who were fully vaccinated reduced their risk of hospitalization and death by more than 10X. It's a no brainer.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/...cid=mm7037e1_w
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people who were fully vaccinated reduced their risk of hospitalization and death by more than 10X
sure about that?
https://fortune.com/2021/10/12/fda-p...ots-this-week/
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The process is meant to bolster public confidence in the vaccines. But it has already led to conflicts and disagreements among experts and agencies.
last month the CDC advisory panel backed Pfizer boosters at the six-month point for older Americans, nursing home residents and people with underlying health problems. But CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky overruled her advisers and decided boosters should also be offered to those with high-risk jobs such as teachers and health care workers, adding tens of millions more Americans to the list.

BOOSTER EFFICACY CHART....it degrades your immune system
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I don't know where your chart is from but it's not from your link. From memory, I believe Mayo Clinic and Israeli Ministry of health data indicated Pfizer is about 40% effective in preventing infection after 6 months, but around 88% effective at preventing severe disease and hospitalization. And more effective under six months. Moderna is more effective than Pfizer.

The solution is to get boosters. That's no problem for me. I like vaccines. I get one or two every year. I've had 6 in the last 13 months.

As to vaccines degrading your immune system, that's laughable. They train your immune system to respond to the disease when you're exposed to it.
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Old 10-16-2021, 10:29 PM   #59
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... If it's not too much trouble, maybe you could add
some more of these fancy charts and graphics, mate.
Not sure if the 17 or so you've shown already are
enough to make yer point. Just sayin'...

But then E-User was surely matchin' ya
stride for stride... Without showin' barely any!

You're prolly right as far as a vax mandate goes.
But - the other lads may be right that getting
vaxxed may offour some good protection.

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fatcity was correct that the lockdown was supposed to be for 2 weeks then they extended it to a more longer lockdown. this is called moving the goal post on purpose.
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