Like I've said many times. Just because you don't understand something, can't find something, or won't admit you are lying doesn't mean your "logic" is correct.
Gov. Kemp has stated there is no evidence of 17000 fraudulent votes that could have tipped the election results.
Also, there is no need to do pointless searches. There are a multitude of links that confirm the presented facts and that refute the claims made by misinformed trumpsters.
Here is a link cited in the above story that covers several details (there are many links in the story that didn't copy as hyper-links. Open the story link for access to them).
More details in the following link.
https://perma.cc/6BF3-TUQV
"Debunked Georgia voter fraud allegations resurface online"
More than three years after Georgia voters helped elect US President Joe Biden, conservative politicians and media personalities are claiming Governor Brian Kemp's office has found new evidence of more than 17,000 fraudulent votes that could have tipped the results.
This is false; Kemp's office and other state officials refuted the claim, and several recounts and audits have confirmed Donald Trump's defeat in the state.
Brad Raffensperger that 17,852 invalid 2020 votes were counted in Fulton County, GA, alone," says Leading Report, an account that AFP has fact-checked numerous times, in a December 15, 2023 post on X, formerly known as Twitter.
The post and a corresponding article titled "2020 Georgia Fraud Exposed" have accumulated thousands of interactions. Rob Cunningham, a self-described "author, veteran" and "philosopher," makes similar allegations in another December 15 X post.
Both Cunningham and Leading Report cite a video in which a Georgia resident named Joe Rossi claims there were "17,852 votes counted that do not have a corresponding ballot image associated with them." They also shared a screenshot of a supposed public meeting notice to address the discrepancy.
Republican politicians and commentators such as US Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene and Donald Trump Jr amplified the claims, rehashing long-debunked conspiracy theories that Biden's victory in the historically conservative state was the result of voter fraud.
"The 2020 election in Georgia was not stolen," said Kemp in an August 2023 post (archived here) refuting allegations from former president Trump, who backed the Republican governor's 2018 campaign.
"For nearly three years now, anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward -- under oath -- and prove anything in a court of law."
That has not changed, despite the claims circulating online.
"Retelling the same lies for three years does not make them true, even when citing bogus online blogs," Kemp adviser Cody Hall was quoted as saying in an Atlanta Journal-Constitution (AJC) December 18, 2023 article (archived here).
"The moon landing was real, Bigfoot does not roam the forests of North America and the 2020 election in Georgia was not stolen."
Misrepresented letter
Alexandra Hardin, a paralegal with the Georgia State Election Board (SEB), told AFP in a December 19 email that the body has only received two letters from Kemp -- neither of which verifies claims of more than 17,000 "invalid" votes in 2020.
The letters, one sent in November 2021 and the other in July 2022, ask the State Election Board to look into Rossi's allegations about Georgia's election results. The latter is signed by Evan Meyers, Kemp's deputy executive counsel.
"The Office of the Governor does not have the authority to investigate election matters; such authority resides with the State Elections Board," he wrote. "I ask that you contact Mr Rossi and review his claims to determine whether any consideration of such claims by the Board is warranted."
The body was scheduled December 19, 2023 to discuss a case "recommended for referral to the attorney general's office" about 2020 tabulator results in Fulton County, a Democratic stronghold home to Atlanta (archived here).
But Hardin told AFP the case was "continued from today's meeting and will be heard at the next SEB meeting," adding that she "cannot speak to investigations that are ongoing or have not yet been presented to and disposed of by the Board."
Citing a statement from board member Sara Ghazal, 11Alive News reported the case "focuses on apparent discrepancies between the initial recount totals reported by Fulton County on December 2, 2020, and the corrected vote totals released the following day." The Atlanta TV station noted there "is also a related case question regarding ballot images" (archived here).
While the source of the figure shared online is unclear, it appears to reflect an error officials reported during a recount and subsequently corrected during a verification process known as reconciliation.
Mike Hassinger, a spokesperson for the Georgia secretary of state, told 11Alive that Fulton County submitted an incorrect number in early December 2020 that was off by about 17,000 before correcting the totals.
Biden beat Trump in Georgia by some 12,000 votes (archived here and here). The state initially certified that result November 20, 2020 and confirmed it after a recount in December (archived here).
The Georgia secretary of state's office has conducted several audits -- none of which turned up evidence of widespread fraud.
"It's 2023, we are still dealing (with) the lies," said Gabriel Sterling, chief operating officer for the secretary of state, in a December 18 X post refuting allegations of more than 17,000 "invalid" ballots (archived here).
AFP contacted the secretary of state and governor's offices, as well as the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, for additional comment. Fact-checking outlets Lead Stories and Check Your Fact have debunked similar claims.
AFP has fact-checked other misinformation about US politics -- including election fraud conspiracy theories -- here.
https://news.yahoo.com/debunked-geor...8NvZrwl4NSUrZ1
"PG A.M.: Trump loyalists resurrect debunked Georgia election fraud claims."
"The lie materialized on Friday afternoon and went viral on far-right social media accounts, just as a federal jury ruled that former President Donald Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani must pay $148 million to former Fulton County election staffers he falsely accused of voter fraud.
The post wrongly claimed that Gov. Brian Kemp’s legal staff notified Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger that more than 17,000 “invalid” votes were tallied in Fulton County in 2020, echoing debunked conspiracy theories that Trump’s allies have pushed for years.
The accusation was quickly repudiated by state officials, but that didn’t stop Trump’s loyalists from spreading it. U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Rome, even used the invalid vote myth to suggest those who called her a “conspiracy theorist” were wrong.
The falsehood was first floated in an unsuccessful pro-Trump lawsuit filed shortly after the 2020 vote.
Kemp’s inner circle is fed up with the parade of lies about the Georgia vote, which President Joe Biden narrowly won.
“Retelling the same lies for three years does not make them true, even when citing bogus online blogs,” said Kemp adviser Cody Hall. “The moon landing was real, Bigfoot does not roam the forests of North America, and the 2020 election in Georgia was not stolen.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20231221...OQZPB4HBEPQVY/
I don't think, I know your entire post is bullshit.
Yes, they hand over information when requested. Your idea these different departments/sections are all at odds with each other shows your lack of knowledge and trumpy view of government. The reason it's collected is so records can be checked/confirmed in situations just like this. If they intentionally wanted to stall.....no, not going to go down your trump path.
We'll let you stay lying and stupid. No one cares about your convoluted trump tale.
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... And WHY do you think THAT is, mate?
You think they (the Elections Board) just smile and
turn things over for review when people ask?
You think they just hand information over for review
when the barristers ask?
You think they just turn things over when the COURT asks?
... They don't... They STALL at every turn.
Especially IF they see a potential problem.
And the "invalid ballots" are a BIG problem for them.
... Fulton County don't wanna show the ballots.
They denyed the first request to produce them.
The appeals court then delayed things even more.
The constant delay surely didn't sit right with
the GA state supreme court - they decided that
"we" had standing in this case - and instructed
the appeals court to issue WHY Fulton County
is not producing the ballots for review.
The appeals court continues to stall - hadn't as-of
last time I checked - even named a Judge yet to
hear the complaint.
... But Gov. Kemp's office has taken a few steps
to do the proper thing - informing Secretary of State
Raffensperger that they counted over 17,000 INVALID
ballots in Fulton County alone.You're lying. Read the article.
"There have previously been claims over the lack of preservation of some ballot images as well. Reuters reported on some of these issues in 2022.
Fulton County officials told Reuters in July 2022 that state law during the 2020 election did not require the county to maintain ballot images. The law was amended in late 2021 to clarify that election superintendents shall "retain copies of all ballot images" prior to giving election material to clerks. The images are public record.
The Associated Press reported in November 2021 that some counties violated state law by failing to preserve electronic images from the original count of ballots. Fulton County was among the counties that acknowledged that images were missing. Georgia election officials told the Associated Press that the counties have preserved paper ballots, meaning the election results are verifiable.
Have to wonder about the rest of the state.
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