Still not safe, Still not effective....

[Yssup Rider]

I woke up this morning and didn’t have COVID or vaccine related complications.

Again.

Thank you science!

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

I woke up this morning and didn’t have COVID or vaccine related complications.

Again.

Thank you science!

Either did I, but then again I never took the the vaccine. So I know I am not on borrowed time, lol.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

She also tossed in this little nugglet: But let's be very clear .....,

The point was Texaszapper cherry picks the information to try to win a debate. Why would you not want to take something that reduces your chance of severe illness, reduces your chance of ending up in the hospital and reduces your chance of death? Even though some people over 75 that were fully vaccinated were not helped by the vaccine.

In general the message in the M_RNA (Messenger_RNA) will keep you safe. There could be some exceptions if you over 75 years old.

For someone that you say you have on block you sure do like to quote them. That is twice in two days.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

The NYC nurse got a raw deal. In the sense that Germany is helping him more than anyone in the USA. He got one of the two shot vaccines, but which one? How did he get vaccinated in 2020? First responders didn't start getting it until first quarter 2021.

Yeah, I agree he got a raw deal. Chris Cuomo said something interesting about there being another Pandemic. Well watch for it they are already talking about the H5N1 Bird Flu. There has been talk of "Depopulation" this idea that a world population of no more than 500 Million. Then they want to get everyone vaccinated for a disease to save lives. The narratives are contradictory. It's going to be pretty difficult to go from 7.5 Billion people to 500 Million if you're going to save lives with a vaccine for a deadly virus. I have to question the truth behind all this.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

I woke up this morning and didn’t have COVID or vaccine related complications.

Again.

Thank you science!

#METOOAGAIN
Thank you Independent Media!

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

...For someone that you say you have on block you sure do like to quote them. That is twice in two days...

The OP is: Still not safe, Still not effective.... Technical questions on how the use of ekky works and such belongs in the Technical Forum. As a minor courtesy to the users of that forum, it is wise counsel to RTFM before posting there, though not actually mandatory.

[txdot-guy]

If you don’t like it then don’t take it. Quit trying to proselytize your own opinion. We’re tired of hearing about it.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

If you don’t like it then don’t take it. Quit trying to proselytize your own opinion. We’re tired of hearing about it.

If you like it then take it. Quit trying to proselytize your own opinion. We’re tired of hearing about it.

These are optional threads and posts. But you can't stop. Can you?

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

I woke up this morning and didn’t have COVID or vaccine related complications.

Again.

Thank you science!

Yeah, that's what you think. But did you have a cold? Cancer or heart disease? Arthritis? Hemorrhoids? A hangover? The crabs? An ugly girlfriend or wife? Those are all vaccine related complications.

100% of people who got the vaccine are going to die. Every damn one of us. May God have mercy on our souls.

[Tigbitties38]

Safe and effective doesn't mean no side effects whatsoever. A "can, in very rare cases, cause TTS" statement doesn't mean the vax isn't safe or effective. It means in rare cases there can be a problem. In rare cases a person eating a peanut can die from anaphylactic shock.
I'm pretty sure you weren't told by 100% of the lefties that the vaxes were 100% safe.
Just like I'm sure no gov or big pharma said it was 100% safe.
It looks like the rare cases of tts will receive compensation. Isn't that what you want?
It was a "best faith" effort. That's why the government is paying the legal bills.
Why would you believe an assurance without a link? You say all lefties. I know you're lying. Plus you haven't defined "safe' or " effective". " Rare" events don't knock the vax out of the safe and effective column.

Originally Posted by texassapper

LOL... I have been assured by all the lefties on here that nobody has anything to worry about; the government and big pharma would NEVER lie to us.

Hands up... which of you suckers still believes them? lol



Link

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by Tigbitties38

It was a "best faith" effort. That's why the government is paying the legal bills.

Is that why I was gonna lose my job... because they made a best faith effort? lol

Safe is easy to define... it WON'T FUCKING KILL OR MAIM ME.
Effective is easy to define too... I won't get it and I won't give it to others.

It didn't pass either of those tests. And in fact, the government was LYING about the origin of the Wuhan flu as well as the efficacy of treatment.

They also lied about the effectiveness of Ivermectin... which they did in order to be able to create an EUA, without which they could not order ANYONE to take the jab.

Again.. you going to keep defending the lies?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Is that why I was gonna lose my job... because they made a best faith effort? lol

Safe is easy to define... it WON'T FUCKING KILL OR MAIM ME.
Effective is easy to define too... I won't get it and I won't give it to others.

It didn't pass either of those tests. And in fact, the government was LYING about the origin of the Wuhan flu as well as the efficacy of treatment.

They also lied about the effectiveness of Ivermectin... which they did in order to be able to create an EUA, without which they could not order ANYONE to take the jab.

Again.. you going to keep defending the lies?

The Covid vaccines are effective and safe. As for its effectiveness simply look at the data on deaths due to Covid among those vaccinated and those not vaccinated. As for being safe, billions of people have recieved the vaccine with very few complications.

As for ivermectin, there is very little support by health organizations for using the drug to either cure or prevent Covid.


"Both the World Health Organization and the National Institutes of Health have not recommended the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 outside of clinical trials, citing insufficient evidence. The Infectious Diseases Society of America also suggested against the use of the drug outside of a trial, since there is a “very low certainty of evidence” and “concerns with risk of bias (i.e., study limitations) and imprecision” on 15 studies reviewed by the end of July."

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/09/sc...-for-covid-19/

"CONCLUSIONS

Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

I can't believe that such discussions are still going on. I have had the base 2 shots and 3 boosters. If you or anyone else does not want the Covid shots, don't get it. But stop with the ridiculous unsupported opinions on the subject.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

The Covid vaccines are effective and safe. As for its effectiveness simply look at the data on deaths due to Covid among those vaccinated and those not vaccinated. As for being safe, billions of people have recieved the vaccine with very few complications.

As for ivermectin, there is very little support by health organizations for using the drug to either cure or prevent Covid.


"Both the World Health Organization and the National Institutes of Health have not recommended the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 outside of clinical trials, citing insufficient evidence. The Infectious Diseases Society of America also suggested against the use of the drug outside of a trial, since there is a “very low certainty of evidence” and “concerns with risk of bias (i.e., study limitations) and imprecision” on 15 studies reviewed by the end of July."

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/09/sc...-for-covid-19/

"CONCLUSIONS

Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19 or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2115869

I can't believe that such discussions are still going on. I have had the base 2 shots and 3 boosters. If you or anyone else does not want the Covid shots, don't get it. But stop with the ridiculous unsupported opinions on the subject.

+1


Excellent post Speedracer. Even though Dr Birx stated that the vaccines were "Overplayed" in post #35 she still recommended that they should be taken because they prevent severe sickness,
hospitalization and death.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Looks like the other shoe drops. After admitting their experimental mRNA COVID drug actually kills people and lying about it...

AstraZeneca pulls their own COVID vaccines

The excess deaths cannot be kept hidden forever... and the sheep will have to admit they got sheared.

Excess deaths should not be hidden. Open disclosure is all part of the scientific method. Punters on a whore board discussing politics have nothing to do with such.

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Wrong again. Quote from Dr. Birx taken out of context.
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-covid-vaccin/

Txdot, that is par for course with him. He has misquoted/taken out of context more things than I can keep track of. Posting by members on the board are not safe for his misquotes either.

Originally Posted by texassapper

Do you trust math?

And he also loves to use non-vetted, heavily sided tidbits that would never pass the scrutiny of a scientific peer group.

Originally Posted by adav8s28

She did say the vaccines were overplayed. However, you left out the part where she said the vaccines prevent servere illness, hospitalizations and death from CoVid infection.

Ouch! Why you have to *jab* him like that?

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

She also tossed in this little nugglet: But let's be very clear, 50% of the people who died from the omicron surge were older and vaccinated. Perhaps you also misremembered that the omicron round was the super mild round and more than likely - caused the unvaxxed to gain natural immunity in droves and had an extremely benign impact overall.

There is a super simple thing called Original Antigenic Sin (OAS) that explains the whole vaxxing against a variant as being, not just stupid, but more like catastrophic. I may post more about it later, but no - it's not unique to the covid. It's true for any and all vaxxes and is well known to people that are even mildly curious.

Aw heck! I'll play along. So, "she sezs". What would the rate for these old foogies if they DIDN'T get innoculated?

Originally Posted by texassapper

Is that why I was gonna lose my job... because they made a best faith effort? lol

Safe is easy to define... it WON'T FUCKING KILL OR MAIM ME.
Effective is easy to define too... I won't get it and I won't give it to others.

It didn't pass either of those tests. And in fact, the government was LYING about the origin of the Wuhan flu as well as the efficacy of treatment.

They also lied about the effectiveness of Ivermectin... which they did in order to be able to create an EUA, without which they could not order ANYONE to take the jab.

Again.. you going to keep defending the lies?

As far as *I* know, there has never been a vaccine that has been said to be 100% safe.

We can thank people of your mindset for letting alot of illnesses what were well on their way to being stamped out making a roaring comeback because people 'did their own research'.

[texassapper]

LOL. We won't forget...