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08-23-2011, 12:41 PM
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Good response. Some usefull information. Good job of actualy putting some effort and thought into it. Thank you. As you said, its a broad guideline, not a hard and fast rule.
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Originally Posted by Chevalier
Ad: a public announcement from a service provider (indicating some or all of the following: availability, services, rates, pictures, contact information) for the purpose of attracting attention and encouraging prospective customers/clients to engage her services.
ThreAD: a post (whether the first or a later post in a given thread) - by a service provider or by someone else on her behalf;
- providing information similar to that provided in an ad, and apparently for the same purpose of attracting attention and encouraging prospective customers/clients to see her;
- posted in a discussion forum (e.g., to avoid restrictions on ads) rather than an ad forum; and
- which, taken as a whole, lacks significant value other than the "ad purpose" described above
[That last is analogous to the Supreme Court's definition of obscenity in Miller v. California, designed to avoid the common practice for porn in those days to skirt the obscenity laws by including a very short discussion of, say, Shakespeare in the movie. It would also, in my opinion, exclude reviews posted in the review fora, recommendations/endorsements in response to honest inquiries (which serve the same function as reviews), and most posts by the ladies in the discussion fora, even if some of that "ad" information is in their signature line. But if there is no significant content in a lady's post itself and ad information is in the signature line, that may suggest that it meets the criteria.]
My interpretation; may not be anyone else's. Obviously, it is a standard/guideline rather than a precise, bright-line rule; its use requires the application of judgment. But the same is true of most of the rules on a board like this.
Personally, if it were up to me (which it most assuredly is not), I wouldn't treat such posters too harshly. The harm is relatively minimal -- unless other ladies feel competitive pressures to do the same thing and they start to proliferate and overwhelm the real discussions in the discussion fora. Gentle discouragement may be appropriate to prevent that from happening. And setting a good example, of course.
My opinion; YOMV.
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08-23-2011, 12:47 PM
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#47
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Moderator
Join Date: Nov 22, 2009
Location: Happyville
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Originally Posted by CenterLock
I guess I'm in the minority that doesn't care, huh?
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Nope, I think the vocal minority cares. I really don't see the harm here. I mean, we have kids starving in the Ohio forums because anononeoneone is banned. They would kill to have more posts.
Much ado about threADs
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08-23-2011, 12:59 PM
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#48
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Join Date: Mar 31, 2009
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Originally Posted by lisa.lisa0302
So can we post threADS now (Providers I mean).
Since there is technically not against the rules.
May bring some ladies back around here in co-ed again.
This board is weird sometimes. I see threADS all the time, in the smaller cities. No one says a word, I think its boloney, but hey, the gents doesn't seem to mind. So if there is no rule against, then......
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Actually you are correct.. threADs are not against the rules however AD's in any forum other than the designated AD forums are. It's a fine line that will always be crossed but that is all part of the game is it not?
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08-23-2011, 01:03 PM
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#49
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I'm bored......
Ahh....that felt good
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08-23-2011, 01:05 PM
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Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Reese Foster
I'm bored......
Ahh....that felt good
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Check your thread, sweetie. Bored, broke and lonely is down the hall on the right.
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08-23-2011, 01:09 PM
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Hey I didn't say anything about being broke or lonely...can I get a break here? lol
Sorry, Surf... I'll behave now.
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08-23-2011, 02:02 PM
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Opinionated Curmudgeon
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Originally Posted by surfindick
Actually you are correct.. threADs are not against the rules however AD's in any forum other than the designated AD forums are. It's a fine line that will always be crossed but that is all part of the game is it not?
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I think that's the point that people have been trying to make. A threAD effectively is an ad -- therefore, it is a violation of the rule against ads in a non-ad forum, and also potentially a violation of the rule concerning how frequently ads can be posted. Just because something is posted in a discussion forum and the poster doesn't label it as an "ad" doesn't make it a "discussion." Whether it's an "ad" or a "discussion" depends on the nature/content of the post, rather than how the poster labels it or where it's posted.
Of course, many people here define "threAD" (or perhaps in your terminology a "disguised ad"? ) much more broadly than what would meet, for example, my definition. Not sure about your definition or bubba's. Not sure that I care, though; I doubt whether you'll define it so broadly that I'll wind up being hit with points for posting an "ad."
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08-23-2011, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Sep 9, 2010
Location: Archer City
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I guess if a provider posts nonsensical or silly stuff just to get her billboard signature line on the co-ed page, it is considered a threAD. But who makes the determination of what is nonsensical or silly? And why would she care if there's no clear definition or rule against it?
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08-23-2011, 02:26 PM
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Join Date: Mar 13, 2011
Location: Dallas
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I honestly don't care if a provider posts a threAD, nor do I care if anybody else breaks any of the number of nitpicky rules here. As long as it doesn't affect my ability to figure out who I want to fuck and not get arrested while doing so, I'm fine.
I also don't care if someone illegally parks their car, but if I get a ticket for doing so and then see the cop that wrote it doing the same goddamned thing, it's frustrating. Taken a step further, if I questioned the cop and he refused to admit he had done anything wrong by asking me to define the word "park", well, I can't help but lose respect for the guy and question his integrity. That's just me, though, I guess we all have our pet peeves.
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08-23-2011, 02:31 PM
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Join Date: Jun 17, 2010
Location: Texas
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So as long as you can figure out who to see and don't get rear ended by a cop attempting to "park" in a "fuck but no park" zone you're good.
Gotcha.
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08-23-2011, 02:52 PM
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We actualy have some guidelines on what is abuse of threADs. Its very broad and allows a lot of descrection. But it is possible to abuse things.
Now, I will let you in on a little secrect.
April was the 2ed provider I ever tried to see. It was a NC/NS. Never heard any explianation from her. So I have no motivation of expecting anything from her or any real desire to see her. I was simply being polite and welcoming a returning member. As guys complain all the time about someone mentioning a name but not providing a link so they can see who is being discussed, I provided a link to a showcase that had her pictures and very little else. No rate, no services, etc. Bascily useless for anything but showing who she is. And, as there have been a number of people asking about her since she left, it seemed like a usefull post. And, as it turns out, no rules were broken.
As has been made clear in this thread very few people really know what a threAD is. It is clearly a perception thing. To a very small vocal minority it seems like a big deal. Most seeme to not really care. If you take out all the off topic, personal attack posts, then would have been a very short thread. Thank you again to the handfull of mature adults who stayed on topic even when disagreeing and put some real thought and effort into this. I wont list the people who have an axe to gride with me because they have received points for not following the rules. That mike make you a little suppious of their movations for their attacks :-0
As long as the poster avoids including any information not allowed in an actual ad I would suppect threADs will be treated with a very light hand as long as its not abused.
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08-23-2011, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CenterLock
So as long as you can figure out who to see and don't get rear ended by a cop attempting to "park" in a "fuck but no park" zone you're good.
Gotcha.
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Finally, someone that understands me!
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08-23-2011, 03:36 PM
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Feed the Beaver
Join Date: Jun 28, 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 706
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba3452
We actualy have some guidelines on what is abuse of threADs. Its very broad and allows a lot of descrection. But it is possible to abuse things.
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Are these guidelines secret or will you share them with membership?
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Originally Posted by Bubba3452
As has been made clear in this thread very few people really know what a threAD is. It is clearly a perception thing.
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Do you know what one is? If so, will you tell us? I have no clue what you mean by "it is clearly a perception thing."
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Originally Posted by Bubba3452
As long as the poster avoids including any information not allowed in an actual ad I would suppect threADs will be treated with a very light hand as long as its not abused.
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Personally, I don't much mind guys or gals posting disguised ads as long as it's not too blatant and not too frequently abused. But, it is kind of annoying when a moderator doesn't recognize or refuses to admit that a thread with no purpose other than to notify the membership that an escort is back in business and includes a link to her showcase is considered an ad by most people. Even worse when he then insults those who disagree with him.
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08-23-2011, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Reese Foster
Hey I didn't say anything about being broke or lonely...can I get a break here? lol
Sorry, Surf... I'll behave now.
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You better NOT behave!!! Now bend over and well ...you know the rest of the story.
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08-23-2011, 03:39 PM
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what do ya'll think have we killed this subject yet?
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