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Old 07-26-2018, 09:01 AM   #46
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12. Ben Sasse, who was censured by his own Nebraska GOP party by a vote of 400 to 8 said yesterday, “Trump’s trade policies are ‘Making America 1929 Again’” in an attempt to undermine the President ahead of the Junker negotiations.

This afternoon…. Sasse announced he will not run for reelection in 2020. Bwwwhhahaaaaa.
Looks like Never Trumper Sasse realized he was out maneuvered and the playing field has changed and can no longer understand the rules of the game; Trump's game.

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15. And for the Bonus: Trump has learned how to ‘thread’ multiple tweets on Twitter. May God have mercy upon his enemies.


what is he talking about, thread multiple tweets???

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And he has to do this with evil cheerleaders like Warhead, Linderace, Dipsy Dowd, Maggie Haterman, and Fake Yapper trashing him or praising him alternately, no matter which way he goes. They can’t keep up, either.


some names I can figure out, Maurreen Dowd (Dipsy Dowd), and Jake Trapper (Fake Yapper).

don't know the others. who is the writer referring to?
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:25 AM   #47
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Old 07-26-2018, 11:10 AM   #48
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Old 07-26-2018, 11:11 AM   #49
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The allies (primarily the Brits) were reading the German's mail via the Enigma machine (AKA: The Ultra Secret), which cost the Germans North Africa and access to the oil fields of the Middle East. And there was the "Red Orchestra." Despite these advantages, it still took the allies four years to defeat Hitler's armies.

Plus, before the Battle of Kursk, the Germans had their own Lee's "Lost Order" No. 191 revealing their plan of attack and size of forces to the Soviets. The Germans not only lost a major battle, they lost irreplaceable men and armor than they could not afford to lose.
Interesting, I learned a couple of things -- Lost Order No. 191, also the Nazi's very descriptive name for the Resistance, "Red Orchestra."

Do you believe the outcome of the war would have potentially been different if not for Enigma and Kursk?
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Interesting, I learned a couple of things -- Lost Order No. 191, also the Nazi's very descriptive name for the Resistance, "Red Orchestra."

Do you believe the outcome of the war would have potentially been different if not for Enigma and Kursk?
A German victory at Kursk would have prolonged the war by months if not years.

It's very probable the Allies wouldn't have defeated Hitler without Enigma. Enigma allowed the allies to trace and sink German convoys and German submarines.

Rommel's Afrika Korps withered on the vine without those supplies. With those supplies, Rommel probably would have captured and controlled the oil fields of Southwest Asia.

FDR's armada of Lend-Lease Victory and Liberty ships supplying Britain and the American war effort in Europe survived because German control of the North Atlantic via submarines was broken by Enigma. Without Enigma, it's highly likely Great Britain would have been starved out -- food and war matériel -- of the war before 1944. Without Great Britain and North Africa, the U.S. would have had no launching pad from which to invade Fortress Europe.

Enigma ceased to be as important to Allied intelligence after June 6, 1944. The Germans naturally relied more and more on land-line communications and less on radio transmissions after the invasion. Hence, there was less and less for the Allies to intercept and decode -- including intel on the likes of such things as "Operation Watch on the Rhine": the German build up for the Battle of the Bulge.
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I guess the results for Britain without Enigma would have been cataclysmic. It's amazing that Britain and the U.S. pulled that off, keeping it a secret from the Nazi's, as long as they did. Not to mention breaking the code.
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I guess the results for Britain without Enigma would have been cataclysmic. It's amazing that Britain and the U.S. pulled that off, keeping it a secret from the Nazi's, as long as they did. Not to mention breaking the code.
When Winterbotham published his book in 1974, the Italians gleefully held it up to the Germans and said, "See, it wasn't untrustworthy Italians who betrayed German secrets to the Allies during WWII!"

It was a mathematical genius from Poland who gave the British the info they needed to monitor German encrypted transmissions.
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It was a mathematical genius from Poland who gave the British the info they needed to monitor German encrypted transmissions.
Now I feel like I was taken in by the movie The Imitation Game, about Alan Turing. The Pole, Marian Rejewski, was the real hero.
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Old 07-26-2018, 02:44 PM   #54
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So you would rather buy the crap that comes from China and Japan than buy a US made product! your so called low skilled assembly line worker in the US pay way better than what you think I know a few that make 75,000 a year and over 100,000 a year with overtime not to bad for a person with only a high school education! You white collar Educated people are amazing! some of your parents money was wasted! Figuratively Speaking
And that is EXACTLY the reason why televisions, for example, are no longer made in the U.S. The TV manufacturers found that they could pay people in other countries a lot less to perform the same function so they either moved manufacturing to those countries or sold their companies to companies who then moved manufacturing to those countries. Now almost all TVs are made in China and Taiwan. Same with personal computers. iphones are assembled in China.

You do realize that Toyota and Lexus rank #1 and #2 in car brand reliability. Kia is #3. Buick at #8 is the highest ranking U.S. brand, behind Subaru and Infiniti. So much for low quality Japanese products.
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And that is EXACTLY the reason why televisions, for example, are no longer made in the U.S. The TV manufacturers found that they could pay people in other countries a lot less to perform the same function so they either moved manufacturing to those countries or sold their companies to companies who then moved manufacturing to those countries. Now almost all TVs are made in China and Taiwan. Same with personal computers. iphones are assembled in China.

You do realize that Toyota and Lexus rank #1 and #2 in car brand reliability. Kia is #3. Buick at #8 is the highest ranking U.S. brand, behind Subaru and Infiniti. So much for low quality Japanese products.
Speedy you are amazing I only look this up for Toyota but look where these models are built
Where are Toyota vehicles assembled for the U.S. market?
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Camry Georgetown, Kentucky and Lafayette, Indiana
Camry Hybrid Georgetown, Kentucky
Corolla Cambridge, Ontario, Canada and Blue Springs, Mississippi
FJ Cruiser Japan

this wouldn't have anything to do with why they rank so hi, Japanese products that's built by American workers

besides you live in San Antonio Tx.
Initially built in a new Toyota plant in Princeton, Indiana, production was consolidated in 2008 to Toyota's San Antonio, Texas, factory and is the only full-size pickup truck manufactured in Texas. The first generation Tundra had many similarities with the older Toyota T100 and the compact Toyota Tacoma.
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Old 07-27-2018, 02:58 AM   #57
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Now almost all TVs are made in China and Taiwan...
No they're not. Mexico assembles and ships into the US over 40 million TV units a year. The brand name doesn't tell you where it's made.

Here's a quick read on what happened to the US TV industry:

https://qz.com/863121/the-origin-of-...globalization/

There are many reasons why we lose jobs to foreign competition. Relative labor costs are not necessarily the main driver - the labor cost component for many products is low and shrinking due to automation and technological advances. The real culprit is often weak management that grows complacent and allows foreign competitors to innovate faster. Too many US firms lack the export mentality ("export or perish") that the rest of the world has. Mere protectionism won't bring those jobs back. We should focus more on creating tomorrow's jobs rather than restoring yesterday's.
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Mexico assembles and ships into the US over 40 million TV units a year. The brand name doesn't tell you where it's made.
Ford.

I recall discussing with a client in the 70's his business of manufacturing plastic flowers in Mexico and bringing them across the border for distribution. He did have "union" problems there, though. At that time their idea of disruption often resulted in destruction (partial at least) of manufacturing plants and violence.

BTW: Does Speedo now live in SA?
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Speedy you are amazing I only look this up for Toyota but look where these models are built
Where are Toyota vehicles assembled for the U.S. market?
Model Manufacturing Location
Camry Georgetown, Kentucky and Lafayette, Indiana
Camry Hybrid Georgetown, Kentucky
Corolla Cambridge, Ontario, Canada and Blue Springs, Mississippi
FJ Cruiser Japan

this wouldn't have anything to do with why they rank so hi, Japanese products that's built by American workers

besides you live in San Antonio Tx.
Initially built in a new Toyota plant in Princeton, Indiana, production was consolidated in 2008 to Toyota's San Antonio, Texas, factory and is the only full-size pickup truck manufactured in Texas. The first generation Tundra had many similarities with the older Toyota T100 and the compact Toyota Tacoma.

My main point in the post was about why certain manufacturing jobs such as televisions, iphones, and PCs are no longer made in the U.S. But you are correct in that certain cars such as Toyota sold in this country are made to a large extent in this country. No Lexus cars are made in the U.S. But your point on the other automobile manufacturers is well taken. Maybe they have better quality control in their plants than the Ford, GM, and Chrysler plants do. Or they use higher quality parts.
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No they're not. Mexico assembles and ships into the US over 40 million TV units a year. The brand name doesn't tell you where it's made.

Here's a quick read on what happened to the US TV industry:

https://qz.com/863121/the-origin-of-...globalization/

There are many reasons why we lose jobs to foreign competition. Relative labor costs are not necessarily the main driver - the labor cost component for many products is low and shrinking due to automation and technological advances. The real culprit is often weak management that grows complacent and allows foreign competitors to innovate faster. Too many US firms lack the export mentality ("export or perish") that the rest of the world has. Mere protectionism won't bring those jobs back. We should focus more on creating tomorrow's jobs rather than restoring yesterday's.
You are correct. A large number of TVs coming into this country are built in Mexico. And you are correct in saying that focus should be in creating tomorrow's jobs rather than focusing on restoring yesterday's jobs.
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