HITLER SURVIVED THE WAR AND DIED IN 1970

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

All those sources go back to the 1970s LOL LOL LOL

All those sources PREDATE the total disqualification of Trevor-Roper when he discovered "Hitler's Diaries!!!!!!" LOL

None of the authors you cite have since used Trevor-Roper for anything except toilet paper.

Try the 2009 testing of "Hitler's skull" Dude.....

What do you have to say about that?

Well?

2009?

This isn't 1975....

but more seriously none of those writers are real historians anyway and no real researcher or objective historian would publish anything with a title like, "A Study in Tyranny!!!!" Oh my God how EEEEEvil

John Toland is about as much of a researcher and investigator as my cat

Look, one way to spot a real work of history is if it's published by a University Press like Yale Press or MIT Press or University of Wisconsin Press or the kind.....

These popular books published by profit-making publishers are full of shit.

None of them are likely to change their POV since they've all died, and all of them, plus Trevor-Roper, figure very prominently in the bibliography and footnotes at wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

[essence]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Look, one way to spot a real work of history is if it's published by a University Press like Yale Press or MIT Press or University of Wisconsin Press or the kind.....
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I assume you exclude University of Chicago (publisher of Trevor-Roper's book) ?

From my limited reading, several bodies, including women and children, were burnt together, so the only way your 'evidence' of a female skull is relevant is if:

- multiple skulls are identified and attributed to individual people (i.e. they have the correct number of skulls)

- all those skulls are identified as female.

Otherwise, your evidence is a heap of bs.

I know you are beyond hope, I am only bothering to comment in case anybody takes your rantings seriously.

[theaustinescorts]

Originally Posted by essence

I assume you exclude University of Chicago (publisher of Trevor-Roper's book) ?

From my limited reading, several bodies, including women and children, were burnt together, so the only way your 'evidence' of a female skull is relevant is if:

- multiple skulls are identified and attributed to individual people (i.e. they have the correct number of skulls)

- all those skulls are identified as female.

Otherwise, your evidence is a heap of bs.

I know you are beyond hope, I am only bothering to comment in case anybody takes your rantings seriously.

Why are you trying to dance around such simple facts.

The Russians claimed that they had recovered two bodies separate from all the others. They claimed that the bodies of Hitler and Eva were together and away from all the rest, and that Hitler's body was easily recognizable as different from Eva. They claim that Hitler bit down on a cyanide capsule and then shot himself in the head....thereby making the obvious bullet wound in the skull they have.

In their archives they have the teeth of someone, which they claimed were the teeth of Hitler, and the top of the skull.

According to them there was no confusion about other bodies, etc...

According to them it was absolutely and without doubt the skull of Hitler.

But like every other single claim in their story it has now turned out to be a hoax.

And this was only the last rebuttal of all their other "evidence" which was previously refutted, particularly all the "testimony" from tortured Germans who gave wildly different accounts of what happened to Hitler in the Bunker before the bodies were brought out and supposedly burned.

[JD Barleycorn]

Ever hear of the Katyn forest? I take anything said by the Soviets with a real big grain of salt. Let me ask you this, if the skull was that of a woman...what does that prove?

[bojulay]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

For anyone who understands Hitler this is a no-brainer.

Hitler had no friends.

Hitler never confided his thoughts to anyone.

Hitler always used everyone around him.

Hitler had contempt and distain for everyone because he saw how shallow and idiotic they all were.

Hitler believed in his own morality, his own intellect, his own will.

He would never have killed himself as long as there was a way to survive.

He lived the rest of his life with his career in politics left far behind him. He just focused on what lay ahead.

This dude has Hitlers brain in a jar and reads his thoughts every night.

(His career in politics.) Best line ever on this board.

[bojulay]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Ever hear of the Katyn forest? I take anything said by the Soviets with a real big grain of salt. Let me ask you this, if the skull was that of a woman...what does that prove?

It proves that Hitler died in 1970 silly.

[theaustinescorts]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Ever hear of the Katyn forest? I take anything said by the Soviets with a real big grain of salt. Let me ask you this, if the skull was that of a woman...what does that prove?

The skull and the teeth were the only forensic evidence.

All the other evidence is testimony which has been de-bunked, including the Trevor-Roper materials he assembled while working for the British government. He HAD a reputable carrer until about 1978, but when he endorsed the Hitler Diaries as genuine he lost all credibility regarding all his opinions and judgement regarding Hitler. To be more accurate he was one of many government-related "historians" who held particular views on Hitler which comported with government statements, but the Diaries affair demonstrated that he was a polemicist all along with no real understanding of Hitler....whatsoever.

There is no evidence left supporting any of the stories that Hitler killed himself in Berlin.

With that departure one might take seriously the alternative claims.

That doesn't mean the alternatives are necessarily correct, but it means they might be.

[JD Barleycorn]

Now you're talking about faith which is what the Soviets were afraid of; a religion based on the worship of Hitler.

[essence]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

a religion based on the worship of Hitler.

No, surely not, that could never happen, I have never in all my life seen any evidence that any sane person could worship Hitler.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by essence

No, surely not, that could never happen, I have never in all my life seen any evidence that any sane person could worship Hitler.

Sadly, not everyone is sane.

[BigBaldBlk]

Sometimes, reading stuff The Sandbox is funnier than watching Faux News!

[essence]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Sadly, not everyone is sane.

I hope you don't have any of the venerable posters here in mind

[theaustinescorts]

Originally Posted by essence

No, surely not, that could never happen, I have never in all my life seen any evidence that any sane person could worship Hitler.

If your only choice was between Stalin and Hitler I'd bet money you'd follow Hitler.

80 million Germans, Romanians, Hungarians, Finns, and millions of others opposed to Stalin from France, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Norway, Iceland [which the British invaded and enslaved on May 10, 1940] Iran, Argentina, Palestine, Egypt, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Bylorussia, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Croatia, Macedonia, all followed Hitler becuse of the Stalinist threat.

Don't think you can claim all these were "insane."

[satexasguy]

the truth will never be known. just like Kennedy. cracks me up to read everyone's arguments. it's kinda like watching a high school debate.

[AdventureAdams]

The main point is he is dead now. I really don't care if he went into hiding for deep shame of his loss after the Russians literally ass fucked him. He died a miserable failure.