BE VERY AWARE OF Astin Martin on p411

[lisa.lisa0302]

Pretty much sums it up.

Originally Posted by ~Ze~

Back to the original post.. and not P411 bashing..

We ladies get BB requests all the time. I had ONE my last visit to Dallas and this visit (a week into it) I have had 3 already.

Say no and move on. Hell, I turn people down for way less than asking me to risk my life. So saying no to that is easy peasy.

My issue with this particular person -

He used my very best friend (not Jules, sorry babe) as a fucking reference. Then after I declined his request by sending a note back letting him know why I wasn't ok with meeting him, he bugged me in chat. He does have an account here, and I fucking forgot to take a note of it. *surprisingly he hasn't been in chat or bothered me since this thread popped up*

Persistent little fuck. But not worse than those men that can screen really well and still try to sneak bare full service.

Always have your guard up and practice saying no in the mirror with force and conviction.

[durango95]

Note to self:

"Never piss off a provider or web page owner, they will go spider monkey on my ass" or something like that.

[LazurusLong]

Originally Posted by KrystalX

And if you would like to know who owns that site I suggest you do your own reserch so you can twist that as well.

Sorry Krystal,

Review what your addled brain did.

You questioned who "Gina" is and with your bullshit ignorant claim, you tried to insinuate Gina was simply a female persona for a man.

In other words, trying to slam her personally.

Why would I waste my time on checking who owns a site that someone as whacked as you are and who was recently arrested and nay be working with the police now is telling people to join?

I'll stick with P411.

BUT, as Gina posted, you have been using her site to promote another site. An new and unknown site with no openly shown owner.

Here let me do some speculation.

Since you were recently busted in Ft Wayne as part of a human trafficking sting, I suggest that in order to have the charges lessened or dropped, you are working with law enforcement where you were arrested to try and steer clients and other providers to that wholly owned law enforcement site.

What a great way for the police to collect information on providers and clients without the need for warrants. Bust providers and get them to refer their clients to eroticvistors (a wholly owned subsidiary of the FBI!).

How many more clients and prostitutes do you need to refer to that site before your case gets dropped?

Or are you really going to try and say that you are recommending a site that you have no clue about who owns?

[KrystalX]

I agree that anyone promoting a site as hard as you are promoting Ginas site is questionable.What is your stake in this?We know that I promote myself because clearly I am pushing a product. What the hell are you doing? also and not to lose sight of the original post under no circumstance should a pm(private message) be read. We dont stand for it from the government and it should not be tolerated by site owners.Because I am with Tmobile service that does not give them the right to listen to my phone calls More than one reputable provider complaining should be enough to suspend any hobbyist. We are still the product. My being kicked off P411 is not the issue (I really dont get much from there). The violation of my private messages and the unprofessional handling of the matter is. And the only person still giving promo to that site is you, and oh yeah I looked them up , they are located in the U.K. And you keep showing what an idiot you are, a prostitution case is a misdemeanor and only carries a fine and if you know anything about the law you would know that.It is over zealous sh*t starters that come up with these bizzarre scenarios. GET A LIFE.

[GinaXXX]

Just so no one is in the dark about my policy, we do read pms when an issue comes up that calls for some investigation. This is not unusual in the world of site ownership, as we also do a lot of IP matching and whatnot as well.

When a provider claims a client is psycho and demanding BB in his contact, I just go and check the pms.

Low and behold, I find a single, exceedingly polite, Appointment Request from a client who mentions he prefers BB, but that it's not a deal-breaker. Even more interesting is that the provider is totally cool with booking the Appointment, as long as he goes over to some other site and signs up first.

So yes, I do read pms in every complaint brought to me that involves pms. It's not a secret, and P411 is not a democracy.

Always,
Gina

[KrystalX]

Anyone who reads my reviews or who sees me knows that I am strictly safety conscious - chipper so once again you look like a liar. And you are still defending this jerk. Why so much time on me when so many of these providers on this thread said you have not even responded to them. HMMMM? And I still will always refer clients to my video no matter what site I post on. Check It Out. 10 thousand views BABY!

[S-Man]

I'm confused. Isn't this thread supposed to be about a client who claims to be a Brit? If folks want to discuss another subject, shouldn't they start another thread?

As far as mentioning other sites, it is a bit of promoting especially if those sites are competitors. I do not believe Facebook, Yahoo and Google (owners of YouTube) are in the business of screening clients.

[KrystalX]

Yes S-Man you are correct. Got a nail appointment. Ciao.

[Sami]

It's Gina's site!!!! She can do and charge what she want's, if you dont like it move on. Which you are no longer apart of!!!! Geez
Why dont you try to come up with a better site?Since you think you know best. Instead of bitchIng about Gina's is run....

Originally Posted by KrystalX

For all clients who are viewing this disagreement, come on if a provider charged $250 an hour last year and $500 this year you would fill up this forum with backlash. Why is it no one said any thing about the $10 per city charge she imposed on touring escorts. She is not a GOD or does she make the rules. She began a site where she made her money on the clients and the provider was the commodity. Greed has determined that us providers who built the site (you guys would not have joined if we were not there) are her new prey. B.S. We dont even know for sure that she is a SHE.

[LazurusLong]

Originally Posted by KrystalX

And you keep showing what an idiot you are, a prostitution case is a misdemeanor and only carries a fine and if you know anything about the law you would know that.It is over zealous sh*t starters that come up with these bizzarre scenarios. GET A LIFE.

In Texas it is a FELONY to pay for sex with anyone under 18. Period.

Although I know the difficulties of trying to educate a prostitute who obviously knows so much about the law, so much so that she got busted for it, let me point you to a link in the forum that is dedicated to questions about legality and the hobby.
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...ony#post904663

It may be a struggle for you to read and comprehend what the grownups and lawyers in the thread are discussing but give it a try and ask for help if needed.

BTW, you made a claim that you were busted when someone took over a P411 account.

Did you post a warning on this site about it because I can't find it.
Did you let the owner of P411, Gina, know about your claim? I'm curious if you did and what her reply was.

Did you do any other screening before you saw that client or did you rely on a site that you claim you hate and doesn't bring you any business and also has caused your earning ability to decrease? (Actually, most of your posts in this thread are most likely why your earnings have decreased esp when combined with your service level.

[daaaaaman]

p411 is the best site ever. The reason it is the best site ever is it is because it is run the right way. I have always been treated great and I am a proud member of p411 for over 6 years. I would highly recommend p411 to every hobbyist and provider around.

LONG LIVE P411!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUCK YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
SLUTS UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[~Ze~]

I will pay 1000 for someone to remove the ! key from Daaaaaman's keyboard.

[daaaaaman]

NO WAY, DONT TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

FUCK YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SLUTS UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kami Parker]

You are the bomb baby ; )

[anita]

I think Gina is great. And so is p411, I get business even without posting an ad. I get them just by being online. But, eccie is fine as well. I am not trying to tell anyone what to do, but if you have someone contacting you for services you do not offer, you can simpy ignore him. Or, politely decline the offer. I think Gina should be contacted for more serious matters.

No charity, but Gina and her staff made me feel welcome. Changed my pictures at no cost when I first joined p411 and kept hesitating on what pics I want. Lol. Yea, I think Gina is great :-)