LOLOL - you can't make this shit up

[Bobave]

Originally Posted by Still Looking

Nice Try! LOL You forgot him saying he does not leave common sense at the door. He knows just like all of us what you mean.

So you admit to being a wise-acre. That just sounds funny to me. I would never use that. I would simply say "ASSHOLE" or "SMARTASS". So your saying you are in fact a.... well you figure it out! I'll use my words you use yours.

I also do NOT care for the word "WHORE" never have. I use Escort or my favorite "HOOKER". But the very definition of "WHORE" is some one that exchanges sex for money. SLUT is a person that fucks everyone indiscriminately for free. A Total fucking bitch, CUNT is a SLUT but is fucking everyone but "YOU" for free.

Just trying to be helpful.

Now see, that was a pretty civil post overall. Good for you.

Of course Spice knew what I meant, my post was transparent bullshit. But Spice's "common sense" excuse is also transparent bullshit. When someone interprets things based on their arbitrary view of context and insists it's common sense... that's bullshit. And all of us know that, too.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by Bobave

Now see, that was a pretty civil post overall. Good for you.

Of course Spice knew what I meant, my post was transparent bullshit. But Spice's "common sense" excuse is also transparent bullshit. When someone interprets things based on their arbitrary view of context and insists it's common sense... that's bullshit. And all of us know that, too.

So basically your saying Spice, You & I are pretty much the same. I bet you won't get an argument out of him. Or me for that matter. Do you know why? Just like you we don't care!

Carry on..

[FirePhoenix]

I truly do love how this issue is trying to spun into many different directions. Nice try, but that garage isn't going to fly. Don't suppose anyone wants to start a poll that examines how mamy people agrees with the various diffent statements as to why the infraction was given. Anyways, I had a great eveing and good night

[SpiceItUp]

The infraction was given because there was a clear guideline violation. The only reason I'm even participating in this discussion is because I was called out directly and I'm trying to give some clarity and transparency to the process.

The key takeaway here should be that you have no way to know who has and hasn't been pointed for which posts and you're fools if you assume infractions aren't doled out to controversial members who like to push the boundaries.

Also, just because you THINK something is/should be a violation doesn't mean it is. Those "assholes" you don't like are often just expressing their opinions. Don't like them? Feel encouraged to disagree and tell them so. It's called freedom. Mods aren't here to protect your feelings, we're here to maintain a modicum of civility according to the guidelines to stave off total anarchy. That's about it.

But yes, nice try. I agree. The only thing that doesn't fly are the tu quoque fallacies people seem to be relying upon. Google it...

[nuglet]

well, Spice is out of the area, and but that doesn't mean he's out of "pocket distance". It is most interesting how the rules are "subjectively" enforced.. some things just make ya go "Hmmmmmmm". Spice asked for specific incidences, OBSERVING supplied that to him.. sooooo, that only leaves a few options for any belief standard. Either )($&)#_ or *^Y#^AS$()... Let's see Mr. SPICE, you were supplied with the evidence your requested.. NOW WHAT???? Play or Pass?????

I'm sure there are (as you put it) several "opinions" but some FACTSCLEARLY STAND OUT.. like it or not..

" (as stated by spice) Also, just because you THINK something is/should be a violation doesn't mean it is. Those "assholes" you don't like are often just expressing their opinions. Don't like them? Feel encouraged to disagree and tell them so. It's called freedom. Mods aren't here to protect your feelings, we're here to maintain a modicum of civility according to the guidelines to stave off total anarchy. That's about it."

I'm callin' BS.. you do NOTHING to maintain a "modicum" of civility according to ANY guidelines.. Quit drinking that coolaid and fucking read the posts.... sir ~!"

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by nuglet

well, Spice is out of the area, and but that doesn't mean he's out of "pocket distance". It is most interesting how the rules are "subjectively" enforced.. some things just make ya go "Hmmmmmmm". Spice asked for specific incidences, OBSERVING supplied that to him.. sooooo, that only leaves a few options for any belief standard. Either )($&)#_ or *^Y#^AS$()... Let's see Mr. SPICE, you were supplied with the evidence your requested.. NOW WHAT???? Play or Pass?????

I'm sure there are (as you put it) several "opinions" but some FACTSCLEARLY STAND OUT.. like it or not..

" (as stated by spice) Also, just because you THINK something is/should be a violation doesn't mean it is. Those "assholes" you don't like are often just expressing their opinions. Don't like them? Feel encouraged to disagree and tell them so. It's called freedom. Mods aren't here to protect your feelings, we're here to maintain a modicum of civility according to the guidelines to stave off total anarchy. That's about it."

I'm callin' BS.. you do NOTHING to maintain a "modicum" of civility according to ANY guidelines.. Quit drinking that coolaid and fucking read the posts.... sir ~!"

This should be good.

[SpiceItUp]

Originally Posted by nuglet

well, Spice is out of the area, and but that doesn't mean he's out of "pocket distance". It is most interesting how the rules are "subjectively" enforced.. some things just make ya go "Hmmmmmmm". Spice asked for specific incidences, OBSERVING supplied that to him.. sooooo, that only leaves a few options for any belief standard. Either )($&)#_ or *^Y#^AS$()... Let's see Mr. SPICE, you were supplied with the evidence your requested.. NOW WHAT???? Play or Pass?????

I'm sure there are (as you put it) several "opinions" but some FACTSCLEARLY STAND OUT.. like it or not..

" (as stated by spice) Also, just because you THINK something is/should be a violation doesn't mean it is. Those "assholes" you don't like are often just expressing their opinions. Don't like them? Feel encouraged to disagree and tell them so. It's called freedom. Mods aren't here to protect your feelings, we're here to maintain a modicum of civility according to the guidelines to stave off total anarchy. That's about it."

I'm callin' BS.. you do NOTHING to maintain a "modicum" of civility according to ANY guidelines.. Quit drinking that coolaid and fucking read the posts.... sir ~!"

I get it.

You want moderators to be draconian in the enforcement of the "spirit" of the guidelines when it comes to the posters you don't like. Hell you want us to censor and ban the members you deem "assholes" even when protocols put in place almost a decade ago don't call for it.

You want mommy and daddy to rush to your rescue every time your feelers get hurt instead of exercising your freedoms the same way the "assholes" do, by toeing the boundary lines to be sure but often not crossing them.

You think mods are here to be the hobby police and protect your safe spaces so the delicate flowers can blossom.

You're so ate up with your local drama that you can't see the bigger picture principle involved here. Namely that this site places great importance on freedom of expression and under rather than over moderation.

Freedom of expression must include the right to offend. If we start banning people just for saying things some people find offensive then where to we stop? where do we draw the boundary lines? Who draws them? According to what criteria? Mob consensus apparently suits you fine, it does not me.

Every forum in existence has its trolls and assholes and prolific attention grabbing posters. If they do not then I guarantee they utilize draconian enforcement and censorship to make it so.

So I get it, you want a kinder, gentler ECCIE for all. It's a beautiful dream. Use the ignore feature and your dreams can be realized immediately.

I will continue to enforce the guidelines of the site as consistently as I can according the the years of precedent behind the scenes and using narrow rather than the broad interpretations some of you seem to love.

Beyond that? I'm afraid I pass...

[FirePhoenix]

Hypocrisy at it's best.
We don't need a mommy or daddy for this site. We need mods that listen to what the majority of members are asking for. Did anyone ask for excuses? Has everyone called b.s.? It really doesn't matter becuase the damage has been done and cannot be undone.

Spice what is that you want the majority of members to say? "Oh, this o.k.?" ,"Sorry, my bad I should have relieze how you interpret the rules?" "Thats right, what most Austin members ask just simply can't be done?" What is it that you are trying so hard to explain to everyone in various different tactics that people just don't seem to understand?

[FirePhoenix]

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2033292

Stuff like this can go on and on and on,but dear God please don't use the word "a**hole"to the wrong person. Bullys just can't handle that type of language. Not even in jesting can Bullys handle such implied humor.

[subaru]

Guess someone got exposed..oops!!

[SpiceItUp]

Thank you for illustrating my points Phoenix...

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by FirePhoenix

We need mods that listen to what the majority of members are asking for.

There are THOUSANDS of members that utilize this site..... Every whore here has clients that never post...... Many guys here see whores that never participate..... The handful that do are NOT the majority......

The vocal few do not define the purpose of the site.


In the final days of ASPD a migration began and people had a few different choices available and for about a year there were other sites jockeying for members....

ECCIE flourished and a major reason it did was that the Owners here put an end to the OVER moderation of these forums that existed to the point of corruption, Austin being one of the corrupt cities in the system with Whores and Agencies controlling the information and membership through a corrupt staff.

The site is about information..... You don't need a warm fuzzy spot for information to be exchanged.... The freedom to do so is what has to be maintained and they do that quite well here.

You have a choice. There are other sites... Leave.

[Observing]

Originally Posted by FirePhoenix

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2033292

Stuff like this can go on and on and on,but dear God please don't use the word "a**hole"to the wrong person. Bullys just can't handle that type of language. Not even in jesting can Bullys handle such implied humor.

Bottom line take away here is SL and Whispers will RTM the shit out of anyone who calls out their gravy slathered tripe.
I got called a cunt and didn't hit the button.
'Cuz I give zero fucks when it comes to the both of them.
Spice gave every reason he should have told whichever one of them hit the button to quit being a crybaby and be a man and take your deserved medicine.
They both believe they are the most special snowflakes in their shitty little world.

[FirePhoenix]

Actually there lots of members leaving due whimpy,SL, and now spice behavior. Like me,a lot of people are simply waiting for a better alternative to go to. In the mean time I will speak out against such bullying, favoritism, hypocrisy, and all forms of trolls.

Also is spice gif mean that he is being impartial,a joke,or being a hypocrite again?

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by FirePhoenix

Hypocrisy at it's best.
We don't need a mommy or daddy for this site. We need mods that listen to what the majority of members are asking for. Did anyone ask for excuses? Has everyone called b.s.? It really doesn't matter becuase the damage has been done and cannot be undone.

Spice what is that you want the majority of members to say? "Oh, this o.k.?" ,"Sorry, my bad I should have relieze how you interpret the rules?" "Thats right, what most Austin members ask just simply can't be done?" What is it that you are trying so hard to explain to everyone in various different tactics that people just don't seem to understand?

You did this with Ztonk now your doing it with Spice. Why don't you just leave? Here let me help you...

Copy & Paste send pm to:

https://eccie.net/forumdisplay.php?f=577

Please disable my account Fire Phoenix

Love FP

Problem solved!