Lower Prices???

[Vanilla Gorilla]

What most girls dont get is the repeat client. They just dont get it! And they never will.

Charge a fair price, give exceptional service, stay consistent, and your business is booming with little or no advertising. No need to keep screening strange guys over and over again. No need to go on tour. No need to keep advertising day after day and week after week. Its so much more safer, profitable, and fun. You actually get to know some of your clients, become relaxed, and can even become acquaintences or friends over time because the visits are much more frequent. Much more possibilities on the upside.

But most girls want to get what they PERCEIVE is there worth instead fo foucusing on what is it going to take to get a core group of guys to keep coming to see them over and over again. They cant see the forest beyond the trees.

I know of a provider on here that I have seen on numerous occasions that charges 140/60. Just as good as any 300/60 girl I've ever had and maybe even better. She is always busy, almost never advertises, and is simply wonderful and greatful everytime I or anyone else see's her.

So yeah...price does matter. Have a competitive rate and you build a base of strong regulars. Charge higher rates and they just come and go with no loyality whatsoever. Also the higher rate girls have very high expectations that they need to forfill or the hobbiest is strongly disappointed. After numerous disappoints with higher end girls the hobbiest concludes their is no added value to them whatsoever over more competively priced girls and refuses to see them ever again.

[Prolongus]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Gorilla

What most girls dont get is the repeat client. They just dont get it! And they never will.

Charge a fair price, give exceptional service, stay consistent, and your business is booming with little or no advertising. No need to keep screening strange guys over and over again. No need to go on tour. No need to keep advertising day after day and week after week. Its so much more safer, profitable, and fun. You actually get to know some of your clients, become relaxed, and can even become acquaintences or friends over time because the visits are much more frequent. Much more possibilities on the upside.

But most girls want to get what they PERCEIVE is there worth instead fo foucusing on what is it going to take to get a core group of guys to keep coming to see them over and over again. They cant see the forest beyond the trees.

I know of a provider on here that I have seen on numerous occasions that charges 140/60. Just as good as any 300/60 girl I've ever had and maybe even better. She is always busy, almost never advertises, and is simply wonderful and greatful everytime I or anyone else see's her.

So yeah...price does matter. Have a competitive rate and you build a base of strong regulars. Charge higher rates and they just come and go with no loyality whatsoever. Also the higher rate girls have very high expectations that they need to forfill or the hobbiest is strongly disappointed. After numerous disappoints with higher end girls the hobbiest concludes their is no added value to them whatsoever over more competively priced girls and refuses to see them ever again.

Lots of wisdom in this post...liked it. Build a client base, ladies. Word of mouth is ABSOLUTELY the best advertising, hands down.

[MOCHAakaMOCHA]

Their "worth" and what they want to charge regardless of what anyone feels is 2 different things. I'm sure at 140 an hr she is always busy. "Fair" "reasonable" usually used as euphemisms for cheap (it is what is is) depends on the market. Some are still better than others. You'll find disappointments at every level of the hobby.... lower end (under 200hr), mid-market (200-350hr), to high end (400hr +). Keeping up exceptional service is/should be plenty for repeat clients....treat them like you want them there the will return, but don't confuse them being entitled to lower rates or discounts, if a girl raises her rates then repeats should be kept at the lower rate sure butt hat's something else. Regardless of rates it's not price point automatically that equals success it's how you treat your visitors, though again i'm sure a low rate doesn't hurt a client being able to see you more than someone twice her rate.... a guy can see that 140hr lady twice in a wk vs a 300hr lady only once. We the providers the good ones do care about our clients but we have to look out for ourselves also. Customer service and reviews regardless of price point is what keeps your base.

[TonyStark]

Originally Posted by MOCHAakaMOCHA

Their "worth" and what they want to charge regardless of what anyone feels is 2 different things. I'm sure at 140 an hr she is always busy. "Fair" "reasonable" usually used as euphemisms for cheap (it is what is is) depends on the market. Some are still better than others. You'll find disappointments at every level of the hobby.... lower end (under 200hr), mid-market (200-350hr), to high end (400hr +). Keeping up exceptional service is/should be plenty for repeat clients....treat them like you want them there the will return, but don't confuse them being entitled to lower rates or discounts, if a girl raises her rates then repeats should be kept at the lower rate sure butt hat's something else. Regardless of rates it's not price point automatically that equals success it's how you treat your visitors, though again i'm sure a low rate doesn't hurt a client being able to see you more than someone twice her rate.... a guy can see that 140hr lady twice in a wk vs a 300hr lady only once. We the providers the good ones do care about our clients but we have to look out for ourselves also. Customer service and reviews regardless of price point is what keeps your base.

You said butt hat's....

/snicker....

[69er]

Originally Posted by MOCHAakaMOCHA

Customer service and reviews regardless of price point is what keeps your base.

I don't think this could be more wrong. You are saying that with good reviews and service, that a decrease in price will not increase your customer base.

It's a lot easier to think of this by inverting the situation... If the lady increases her price by $50, will she still get as many customers. We know this helps to decrease the customers, as we've seen some very popular ladies use this tactic to make their demand fit the hours they are willing to work. So, obviously the converse is also true, and reducing your rate will attract customers.

[Int3rested]

lower your costs with client retention...

[Fort Worth Punk]

Sorry, but worth is not determined by what is charged for a service, but by what the market is willing to pay.

[MOCHAakaMOCHA]

Originally Posted by 69er

I don't think this could be more wrong. You are saying that with good reviews and service, that a decrease in price will not increase your customer base.

It's a lot easier to think of this by inverting the situation... If the lady increases her price by $50, will she still get as many customers. We know this helps to decrease the customers, as we've seen some very popular ladies use this tactic to make their demand fit the hours they are willing to work. So, obviously the converse is also true, and reducing your rate will attract customers.

We're not all looking for those chasing a price point. AND I said or tried to make the point that good reviews and customer service KEEPS your base and help build your base by quality of reviews and imo word of mouth. Reviews and word of mouth do help reputation and business.

[MOCHAakaMOCHA]

Originally Posted by TonyStark

You said butt hat's....

/snicker....

Whoops lol didn't proofread.

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by Fort Worth Punk

Sorry, but worth is not determined by what is charged for a service, but by what the market is willing to pay.

Yes, you are absolutely correct. But that assumes that the seller is seeking a market clearing price. There may be factors that cause any given provider to no pursue this profit maximizing behavior. Such factors would cause a provider to behave in a "irrational" matter from a strictly microeconomic point of view, of course. But I see that all the time here.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Gorilla

What most girls dont get is the repeat client. They just dont get it! And they never will.

Charge a fair price, give exceptional service, stay consistent, and your business is booming with little or no advertising. No need to keep screening strange guys over and over again. No need to go on tour. No need to keep advertising day after day and week after week. Its so much more safer, profitable, and fun. You actually get to know some of your clients, become relaxed, and can even become acquaintences or friends over time because the visits are much more frequent. Much more possibilities on the upside.

But most girls want to get what they PERCEIVE is there worth instead fo foucusing on what is it going to take to get a core group of guys to keep coming to see them over and over again. They cant see the forest beyond the trees.

I know of a provider on here that I have seen on numerous occasions that charges 140/60. Just as good as any 300/60 girl I've ever had and maybe even better. She is always busy, almost never advertises, and is simply wonderful and greatful everytime I or anyone else see's her.

So yeah...price does matter. Have a competitive rate and you build a base of strong regulars. Charge higher rates and they just come and go with no loyality whatsoever. Also the higher rate girls have very high expectations that they need to forfill or the hobbiest is strongly disappointed. After numerous disappoints with higher end girls the hobbiest concludes their is no added value to them whatsoever over more competively priced girls and refuses to see them ever again.

Originally Posted by 69er

I don't think this could be more wrong. You are saying that with good reviews and service, that a decrease in price will not increase your customer base.

It's a lot easier to think of this by inverting the situation... If the lady increases her price by $50, will she still get as many customers. We know this helps to decrease the customers, as we've seen some very popular ladies use this tactic to make their demand fit the hours they are willing to work. So, obviously the converse is also true, and reducing your rate will attract customers.

Let me ask the two of you a question and I know this has been argued on review boards for years but answer this ONE question for me: If you knew you could make MORE money charging MORE, would you do it? I am going to guess, yes. A lot of ladies here (myself included) are not looking to screw every guy under the sun that has a few dollars in his pockets. Would you rather see a lady that charges $100 a day and sees 10 guys a day to make 1k or the lady that charges $300 an hour that only sees at most 3 clients a day and isn't worn out? No argument here I am just wondering.

I do understand that some guys simply do not care about the mental physical, state of the provider and are simply just looking for a warm wet hole to fuck (excuse the lingo). However, those same guys are the same guys that posts alerts and complain that the provider smelled funny, her room wasn't clean, she didn't give all the time..etc. Why do you think that is? Vanilla, you mentioned $140 an hour, from what I have heard of Texas, That may be the norm but where I live, guys will automatically think that it's a case of bait and switch or LE sting LOL.

Yes it is true that you don't always get what you pay for or paying less is sometimes better than paying more but just like I go into a session with the hobbyist in mind by going above and beyond to look amazing for our date, showing off unique bcd skills to please him, staying in a 4 star or better hotel, communicating.. pretty much making sure that he's having a great time . If I were a hobbyist, I'd go into a session with the provider in mind to make sure that it's profitable for her and she's having a great time.

Again of course, a decrease in price would garner more business but alot of us don't want to be high volume. I rather be the provider that can see two guys and make 1k than a provider that had to have an all night fuck fest to make 1k. If we wanted more business, you will see a decrease. When a lady increase her rates, that is to show you that she is doing well. There are three business models in the hobby: The family dollar business model, The Walmart business model and the Saks fifth Avenue business model. The provider in the Saks fifth model won't adopt a family dollar business model unless business has truly failed her and the lady with the family dollar business model won't adopt a Saks fifth model. Of course you will want a lady to lower her rate so you can afford her but I guarantee you a lot of ladies will not lower unless they truly have to. I have not offered a special once since I started providing again and I will not offer one... because I simply don't have to.

Originally Posted by MOCHAakaMOCHA

We're not all looking for those chasing a price point. AND I said or tried to make the point that good reviews and customer service KEEPS your base and help build your base by quality of reviews and imo word of mouth. Reviews and word of mouth do help reputation and business.

Reviews do help business but they are not the end all be all. Most of my most high paying clients are not hobbyists. They don't even know what TER or ECCIE is. Some of them are members on TER but will lurk and not post reviews. They find review posting tacky / of bad taste. I say look, presentation, communication, honesty and BCD skills keeps the client base.

Originally Posted by DFWhobby

Why? Because frankly most of the girls on this board are average or below average in terms of looks and sexual ability and they are charging the same price as much more attractive/skilled providers over on Eros.


Then look at the average board member here, they aren't exactly too well off fiscally.

Everyone seems to try and be so polite on this thread its just silly, thats the honest truth in my opinion

I always laugh when I read nonsense like this. Ok I am on eccie and I do not live in Texas. I am a highly reviewed provider in TER carolinas, though I have few reviews here, I am highly reviewed here as well, I also advertise on ALL the major directories (Eros, Bigdoggie, OAD) and *gasps* I hate to blow smoke up my own ass but my looks are very far from average and out of my 6,000 PLUS posts on eccie, I have only posted ONE ad on this site ever. Eccie is unknown in the carolinas. You can check out the carolinas section of this site and see for yourself so to advertise here would be a big waste. I don't even advertise my tours here because I simply do not want to advertise on this board. Out of my reviews here only one found me on eccie, he enjoyed my posts and flew me to see him for a clock - free date, the others? found me on other sites and decided to review me here. I post here only for the entertainment not because I am an ugly duckling and not because I know this is the backpage of all review boards. It is not. You offended a lot of ladies here with that comment. Have you noticed that there are more showcases here than ladies that actually post? There are a lot of gorgeous ladies here that post , just because they're on eccie doesn't mean they're average looking. Guess what? Those ladies are also advertising on eros and TER. Oh and there is a lot of money here on eccie but those guys prefer to lurk than demean/belittle and complain about provider rates. So there goes your theory.

[Fort Worth Punk]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Yes, you are absolutely correct. But that assumes that the seller is seeking a market clearing price. There may be factors that cause any given provider to no pursue this profit maximizing behavior. Such factors would cause a provider to behave in a "irrational" matter from a strictly microeconomic point of view, of course. But I see that all the time here.

It doesn't have to be a market clearing price. If a provider of a service raises rates and finds that the revenue generated at the new rate is not sufficient he or she either needs to completely revamp the marketing strategy or rethink the higher rate. And while there are people with a vested interest in the rate not being lowered arguing against that tactic, the fact remains that none of the suggestions made regarding the original post, other than lower the rate, are going to work to accomplish her stated goal.

But the comment was more at the very warped logic that a person, any person, decides their own monetary worth. While an individual can decide what they are willing to do for a set rate, the market determines if the price set by the individual is worth it. I dealt with this all the time when I did staffing. Many people simply do not understand that, when all is said and done, the number of people willing to pay what they think they are worth is limited. And if it is limited enough they will, more often than not, not get what they want. You have to be able to put ego aside, stop worrying about what other people make, and make an honest assessment of your value to the market.

[blaeese]

Naomi4u is one sharp lady. Go girl

[Guest100513-2]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Most of my most high paying clients are not hobbyists.

what are they, some new breed of highly evolved fucktard?

[DFWhobby]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

I always laugh when I read nonsense like this. Ok I am on eccie and I do not live in Texas. I am a highly reviewed provider in TER carolinas, though I have few reviews here, I am highly reviewed here as well, I also advertise on ALL the major directories (Eros, Bigdoggie, OAD) and *gasps* I hate to blow smoke up my own ass but my looks are very far from average and out of my 6,000 PLUS posts on eccie, I have only posted ONE ad on this site ever. Eccie is unknown in the carolinas. You can check out the carolinas section of this site and see for yourself so to advertise here would be a big waste. I don't even advertise my tours here because I simply do not want to advertise on this board. Out of my reviews here only one found me on eccie, he enjoyed my posts and flew me to see him for a clock - free date, the others? found me on other sites and decided to review me here. I post here only for the entertainment not because I am an ugly duckling and not because I know this is the backpage of all review boards. It is not. You offended a lot of ladies here with that comment. Have you noticed that there are more showcases here than ladies that actually post? There are a lot of gorgeous ladies here that post , just because they're on eccie doesn't mean they're average looking. Guess what? Those ladies are also advertising on eros and TER. Oh and there is a lot of money here on eccie but those guys prefer to lurk than demean/belittle and complain about provider rates. So there goes your theory.

A majority of women here are less attractive. This board primarily caters to the older, overweight, lower socio economic individual... Thus most higher end providers stay away. I check ECCIE primarily for when I am back in the states and want a quick blow and don't want to deal with having to out to a bar that night. ECCIE is not known for higher end women, are there a few? Yes. You are right about alot of women with showcases that don't post... but look at the average post... A large ratio of the women here are over weight/un-attractive. Its a fact.

You are also talking about your designated area, it has no merit in terms of the board as a whole. Whats true for one segment is not true for another.