CLIENT REVIEW suggestion box

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

Pretty soon that "10" client is inundated with invitations from other providers. Some might even offer him discounts up front before ever seeing him the first time.Mr. 10 becomes a hot commodity as a client.

Guess what? Unless you developed something pretty special with that client, he's unlikely to be back. His bucket-list just got filled with about 100 other providers.

And now you'll have to replace that 10 by either grabbing another one or settling for Mr. 7.

I don't speak from experience certainly, but to the extent that it works, it works both ways. Give a glowing review of a provider, and all of a sudden she's getting 3X as many requests as she was getting 2 weeks ago, her rates go up and all of a sudden you're no longer able to afford her or catch her when she's available.

We would also need to get into what it is that would take a client from a '7' to a '10'. If being clean, respectful, relatively intelligent and trustworthy are what the girls are truly looking for, then i think i'm a '10' and i imagine we're a dime a dozen. But if they want those things AND a gorgeous hunk AND a roll in the hay that they'll be sighing about for years to come, then i'm probably falling like a brick back into the 7 range.

Somehow i doubt most girls would be offering discounts to or fighting over the guys who additionally are gorgeous and/or qualify as a great lay. I think they'll be plenty satisfied seeing all of the guys who are more like me.

That all said, i think in an open forum, it would be disastrous for girls to review the guys. And i say that as a guy who used to think it would be sorta cool to read a review of myself. Just reading a girl's complaints of someone else's hygiene or whatever would leave the seed in the back of the mind of most guys that she's put off by such things. And while the intelligent amongst us are aware of this already, we don't need it to be quite so overt. A lot of guys, i'm sure, go into an encounter wanting many things. One of which, even if subconsciously, is to feel they won't be judged negatively for their faults. Even their innocent ones. All of which goes out the window if girls put it in a public forum that they are judging guys for their faults.

[Sweet Heather]

Originally Posted by Doove

. If being clean, respectful, relatively intelligent and trustworthy are what the girls are truly looking for i imagine we're a dime a dozen.

Sweetheart, with all due respect, "dime a dozen"? Uh, try "one in a million".

Spend a day in a providers life. You might be very (un)pleasantly surprised.

[TxBrandy]

Ok to clarify what I believe and what I have already implemented a while ago and after taking into consideration other threads on this board in regards to this issue:

The written reference system or WRS if you will:
A private, provider ONLY forum (NOT a public forum).

All providers must be verified, with more than one reference, and have a phone number where they can be reached by admin. The core group of providers (already in place) will help in the process of choosing what providers have access. This is an attempt to keep out the backstabbers and snitches and the freaking DRAMA sometimes associated with girl talk forums. Just because they are a verified provider by one client does not give them automatic access. Providers who are not eligible to enter the WRS can ask questions such as if we have a WR on a specific client. The admin and moderators will reply with a yes or a no or a warning until they are eligible to view the WRS for themselves.

Information on the client that we ask is as follows:
Hobby (screen) name:
First name:
Last four of phone number:
Email address:
Objective physical description: Approximate height, weight, hair color, age.
Was the client respectful? Yes or no
Did the appointment take place at the agreed time/place? Yes or no
If not, was the client a NC/NS or were other arrangements made?
Was the client clean upon arrival? If not, was the offer to freshen up made by either party?
At any time did the client get abusive? Either physically or verbally without your consent.
Was the business side taken care of correctly?
Would you see this client again? If not why?
Would you recommend this client to your peers?

Notes: (This is be objective only, such as if the client has any health problems or disabilities or special requests that other ladies can use to make their experience better) Any information that is regarded as an opinion will be edited out of this section such as he was a horrible lay or he was ugly or whatever nonsense.

The threads themselves are set up by client hobby name with the option to list the threads in alphabetical order (of course there is always the search option). If a client is listed already, another provider can come along and reply either in agreement or disagreement and so forth, thereby giving the client more than one reference. For members of the private forum, gone is the waiting game of hearing from a reference or waiting for her email and possibly missing the appointment. Providers still can and I'm sure will follow their own screening measures but this can be used as an additional tool if they want to.

Yes it will have to be heavily monitored/moderated especially at the beginning but once we get the hang of it and enough providers participating, it should flow smoother. It is still being tweaked as I'm sure it's not 100% foolproof but neither is any other site. Mistakes may be made whereas we will adjust accordingly. Changes are made as providers come in and say "hey, I think a really good idea would be to add this or change that, etc." There is no rating system and there is no detail unless it is considered pertinent (this guy is in a wheelchair type pertinent).

That's it, that's your private review. Unfortunately my server and I are having issues at the moment but when it's resolved the site will be back up.

[huck finn]

Although I can understand this from the girls' perspective, I have one basic problem from a simple business perspective. The girls are the business and the men are the clients. And it's always the businesses that get reviewed, not the customers. Business owners may speak privately with one another about their customers, but they don't do so publicly. I would not particularly like to be publically reviewed by any place where I do business - and especially with this.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Sweet Heather

Sweetheart, with all due respect, "dime a dozen"? Uh, try "one in a million".

Fair enough. I'll defer to your knowledge and experience. I was just working off the premise that most opinions i read are from providers who claim they actually enjoy, in one form or another, the majority of the men they meet. I just assumed that means the majority of the men they meet are respectful, clean and entirely above board.

[ANONONE]

Originally Posted by huck finn

Although I can understand this from the girls' perspective, I have one basic problem from a simple business perspective. The girls are the business and the men are the clients. And it's always the businesses that get reviewed, not the customers. Business owners may speak privately with one another about their customers, but they don't do so publicly. I would not particularly like to be publically reviewed by any place where I do business - and especially with this.

Seems to me that clients in other industries are reviewed both formally and informally.

Ever eavesdrop at a doctor's office? It goes on all the time.

[TxBrandy]

"A private, provider ONLY forum (NOT a public forum)." would be the way to go. I haven't worked in retail in forever but I know we would get a "bad check" list that we would have to go through anytime someone gave a check. And having also worked in a doctor's office, oh yea.... patient information is shared between the health care providers and other physicians offices. Before all this HIPAA stuff, some patients conditions were shared with patients (without using their name or other personal information). Like "we used to have a patient that had the same condition plus blah blah blah."

Anywho, I do agree with the not in a public forum. It would be the rise of the Joan of Arcs so to speak LOL

[ANONONE]

Originally Posted by TxBrandy

"A private, provider ONLY forum (NOT a public forum)." would be the way to go. I haven't worked in retail in forever but I know we would get a "bad check" list that we would have to go through anytime someone gave a check. And having also worked in a doctor's office, oh yea.... patient information is shared between the health care providers and other physicians offices. Before all this HIPAA stuff, some patients conditions were shared with patients (without using their name or other personal information). Like "we used to have a patient that had the same condition plus blah blah blah."

Anywho, I do agree with the not in a public forum. It would be the rise of the Joan of Arcs so to speak LOL

Even with the HIPPA stuff, they still review via back channel communication.

Contrary to all the nitwits that think all clients are created equal just because the white envelope has the same 15 twenty-dollar bills in it, you can be "fired."

You may be the one paying, but they don't have to take the pay if they don't want it and can get the fee somewhere else.

I saw a patient fired from a practice the other day during a normal visit and overheard my doctor speaking with another doctor as he waited for the nurse to bring him the stuff he needed for me. Just in those few moments that patient was blacklisted from several doctors as he "conferred" with his colleagues.

I asked him what it meant to be fired. . .

He smiled and said, act like an asshole and you will be turned away. Unless you are facing an emergency we don't have to treat you.

I am sure that happens around here all the time.

[Ansley]

Originally Posted by Doove

I just assumed that means the majority of the men they meet are respectful, clean and entirely above board.

For me I find your statement very true. Screening goes a long way.

[Sweet Heather]

Originally Posted by Doove

Fair enough. I'll defer to your knowledge and experience. I was just working off the premise that most opinions i read are from providers who claim they actually enjoy, in one form or another, the majority of the men they meet. I just assumed that means the majority of the men they meet are respectful, clean and entirely above board.

Well, one in a million might have been a tad harsh. But the reality of being a provider for the majority of us is that we come in contact with disrespectful, abusive, rude, abusive, and unclean gentlemen on a fairly regular basis. It's the nature of the business. It's also why so many girls get so burned out and jaded so quickly. This profession certainly is not for the thin-skinned or faint of heart.
You, on the other hand, sound like one of the gents that providers always keep their fingers crossed that will visit.
Oh, and screening has absolutely nothing to do with a gent being smelly, rough, and rude.

[Ansley]

Originally Posted by Sweet Heather

Oh, and screening has absolutely nothing to do with a gent being smelly, rough, and rude.

Maybe it hasn't had anything to do with your screening but it has with mine. With a few emails and a phone call I am able to find out quite a bit from a man. I will be the first to admit that is isn't 100% full proof. In the five years that I have been around I have been extremely lucky. Smelly,rough and rude is not the norm for me.

[Black Sedan]

Originally Posted by Sweet Heather

How was his hygiene?
Was he rough?
Did he respect bounderies?
Did he try to overstay his time?
Was his attitude respectful?
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There are gents out there that are such a pleasure to be with, and I fully believe they are an asset to our little community, and would love love love to share them with my provider sisters.

Maybe I don't get "it" but it appears that you are advocating a level playing field... some sort of sex club hookup dating service rather than what P4P is.

Which is cool, but then you should not expect to be receiving a donation from your date.

And by all means, I think the concept would really be something, and people would flock to it. Reviews of ladies and gentlemen, people can find exactly what they want by reading about experiences others have had. Some sort of distributed, more organized swingers club.

But that wouldn't be P4P. And there is a difference. In P4P, men dominate. There is respect expected, but there is an order to things. And I would certainly expect it to be disclosed if a lady performs the sort of review discussed, because I would expect the choice not to see them for P4P.

[caroline!]

Originally Posted by Black Sedan

In P4P, men dominate.

you think? if you say so...


seriously, another board tried that and it was STUPID. it's usu the low self-esteem guys who do nothing all day then to post on escort boards who would want a review to make themselves feel like WTFever!

My gents are all for DISCRETION for obvious reasons.. and so am I.

[ANONONE]

Originally Posted by Sweet Heather

Well, one in a million might have been a tad harsh. But the reality of being a provider for the majority of us is that we come in contact with disrespectful, abusive, rude, abusive, and unclean gentlemen on a fairly regular basis. It's the nature of the business. It's also why so many girls get so burned out and jaded so quickly. This profession certainly is not for the thin-skinned or faint of heart.
You, on the other hand, sound like one of the gents that providers always keep their fingers crossed that will visit.
Oh, and screening has absolutely nothing to do with a gent being smelly, rough, and rude.

SW, sometimes it seems like you really don't enjoy the hobby.

[Sweet Heather]

[quote=Ansley;302865] With a few emails and a phone call I am able to find out quite a bit from a man. Really? Maybe you could enlighten us other providers how exactly you can determine if he will be rough with you or have a crotch that smells to high heaven(under his $1,000 suit).

I will be the first to admit that is isn't 100% full proof. Bingo.

Smelly,rough and rude is not the norm for me. Are you saying it IS the norm for the rest of us? Because it isn't, dear. But the reality of life when you are a provider(at least for providers honest enough to admit it...) is that it happens. Not "regularly", but it's not rare, either[/quote]

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