It wasn't the Confederate flag, it was a FBI screw up

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by slingblade

First off do not use my pet name in public or I will not let you have the "Banana" anymore.
Second, as I said the conservative opinion indicated that had he not been able to get the gun it would have prevented a tragedy.Therefore we must need more gun control. By your standards he would have been eligible so whats your point then

I can explain it for you but I can not understand it for you.

Actually, if the FBI had not screwed up enforcement of the current law, he would not have been able to purchase the gun. We don't need more laws for LE to screw up.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Actually, if the FBI had not screwed up enforcement of the current law, he would not have been able to purchase the gun. We don't need more laws for LE to screw up.

You seem think it was that very gun that made the difference, not the hatred in his mind and heart. If it wasn't that gun, it would have been another.

[CuteOldGuy]

Or a bomb. Or a knife. Or nunchucks. Or a bacterial agent. Or a car. Or any number of things. Do you think a kid like that is going to think, "well, I don't have a gun, so I guess I will just love and accept blacks"?

I'm right. You are too stupid to be here.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Actually, if the FBI had not screwed up enforcement of the current law, he would not have been able to purchase the gun. We don't need more laws for LE to screw up.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Or a bomb. Or a knife. Or nunchucks. Or a bacterial agent. Or a car. Or any number of things. Do you think a kid like that is going to think, "well, I don't have a gun, so I guess I will just love and accept blacks"?

I'm right. You are too stupid to be here.

Square these two statements. In the first, you insinuate that the lack of a gun would have prevented violence. In the second statement, you flat out admit that nothing would have prevented eventual violence. YOU are the fucking stupid ass motherfucker. Drink more whiskey.

I responded that you seem to think it was the gun, based on the first post. What else was I to infer from it?

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

You seem think it was that very gun that made the difference, not the hatred in his mind and heart. If it wasn't that gun, it would have been another.

Wow you have come over to the dark side, you just about quoted how most gun owners feel and have been saying only to have it fall on deaf ears on the left. So you agree it wasn't the gun but the person, thanks for finally realizing what gun rights supporters have been saying for years. So using your (and the gun lobby logic), more laws would not have stopped this. Maybe if the time and money spent trying to remove a tool from exsistance was spent on mental health issues we could reduce these needless deaths.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

You seem think it was that very gun that made the difference, not the hatred in his mind and heart. If it wasn't that gun, it would have been another.

Miracle of miracles, you didn't blame it on a flag, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by dirty dog

Wow you have come over to the dark side, you just about quoted how most gun owners feel and have been saying only to have it fall on deaf ears on the left. So you agree it wasn't the gun but the person, thanks for finally realizing what gun rights supporters have been saying for years. So using your (and the gun lobby logic), more laws would not have stopped this. Maybe if the time and money spent trying to remove a tool from exsistance was spent on mental health issues we could reduce these needless deaths.

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Miracle of miracles, you didn't blame it on a flag, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.

It obviously isn't the gun alone, nor the flag alone. It is a combination of things, and the hate in the perpetrator's mind is the biggest element. But the gun availability makes it so much easier for him to act out his hate. The flag is a rallying point--and worse, an advertisement for the hate.

I am NOT for gun elimination. I tend to agree most the laws that need to be passed already have been. Enforcement needs to be better, possibly some loopholes eliminated, and people held more accountable than they are today. But no matter the rules we will never prevent all these events (though I believe we can moderate them some--how much I do not know). The area we are most lax in is the holding accountable part. That is the biggest reason I believe we need more gun registration/accountability.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Old-T

It obviously isn't the gun alone, nor the flag alone. It is a combination of things, and the hate in the perpetrator's mind is the biggest element. But the gun availability makes it so much easier for him to act out his hate. The flag is a rallying point--and worse, an advertisement for the hate.

I am NOT for gun elimination. I tend to agree most the laws that need to be passed already have been. Enforcement needs to be better, possibly some loopholes eliminated, and people held more accountable than they are today. But no matter the rules we will never prevent all these events (though I believe we can moderate them some--how much I do not know). The area we are most lax in is the holding accountable part. That is the biggest reason I believe we need more gun registration/accountability.

It was neither a gun nor a flag, those are inanimate objects. It was the mindset and actions of the individual that were criminal. Laws define and discourage criminal acts, but they will never prevent the criminal acts of those few who are determined to be criminals.

[LexusLover]

Some where buried in this propaganda must be a reference to the original story circulated in the media that his father bought the pistol for him ... birthday?

Has that now been "debunked" ... or just swept under the rug for political agendas?

[slingblade]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Actually, if the FBI had not screwed up enforcement of the current law, he would not have been able to purchase the gun. We don't need more laws for LE to screw up.

Before I could respond to your nonsense you posted the latter.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Or a bomb. Or a knife. Or nunchucks. Or a bacterial agent. Or a car. Or any number of things. Do you think a kid like that is going to think, "well, I don't have a gun, so I guess I will just love and accept blacks"?

I'm right. You are too stupid to be here.

You claim its the FBI that screwed up and then said he would have done it anyway.

You are right about someone being too stupid.

[slingblade]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Some where buried in this propaganda must be a reference to the original story circulated in the media that his father bought the pistol for him ... birthday?

Has that now been "debunked" ... or just swept under the rug for political agendas?

Seems to have been replaced with it being the FBI that was at fault.

[JD Barleycorn]

Criminals don't register their guns even if it was the law of the land. So registering the guns of lawful owners would not make a bit of difference. For even if a lawful gun owner had some sort of moral or mental lapse they would still have a right to own a gun until they misuse it.

The father gave his son the money for the gun and the son bought the gun legally with the money (so much for the straw purchase prohibition law). A background check was performed and nothing popped up, so tacit permission was given by putting the background check into a suspense file. The gun store acted in good faith.

[slingblade]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Criminals don't register their guns even if it was the law of the land. So registering the guns of lawful owners would not make a bit of difference. For even if a lawful gun owner had some sort of moral or mental lapse they would still have a right to own a gun until they misuse it.

The father gave his son the money for the gun and the son bought the gun legally with the money (so much for the straw purchase prohibition law). A background check was performed and nothing popped up, so tacit permission was given by putting the background check into a suspense file. The gun store acted in good faith.

Surely you must have copy and pasted this. It is the first time you have a made any sense.

[JD Barleycorn]

I think it is because you didn't start drinking so early today.

[slingblade]

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

What cracks me up the most is that isn't even the actual confederate flag. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IDIOTS.

I agree and you never see anyone mention that in the media for some reason.
The "Navy Jack" was for the Colony's