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06-23-2012, 06:59 PM
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whos squriming?
I posted a picture of saddams airforce
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06-23-2012, 07:33 PM
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"The Iraqi regime possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons.... If we know Saddam Hussein has dangerous weapons today -- and we do -- does it make any sense for the world to wait to confront him as he grows even stronger and develops even more dangerous weapons?" - President George W. Bush, Cincinnati, Oct. 7, 2002
a complete lie without any consequence ... a war based on a lie without any consequence, spending billions and billions of taxpayer dollars for a war based on a lie wiithout any consequence, 4000 dead soldiers without any consequence .. not one iota of accountability was even mentioned much less asked for by the republican congress who had both the house and the senate ...
based on principle alone, and until the past administration is held responsible for thehttp://www.eccie.net/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=283 7447ir (any/all) actions regarding Iraq not one republican has any right whatsoever to ask anyone of any cloth to be held accountable for anything.
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You are the liar, CBJ7. Bush's remarks were based on lies propagated by Saddam Hussein. The intel available at the time appeared to support the belief that Saddam had WMD. Post war commissions have determined that Saddam had every intention of reconstituting his WMD program after he broke free from UN sanctions.
For example, on 30 September 2004, the ISG released the Duelfer Report. It's conclusion: "Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability, which was essentially destroyed in 1991, after sanctions were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized. Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability—in an incremental fashion, irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks—but he intended to focus on ballistic missile and tactical chemical warfare (CW) capabilities."
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06-23-2012, 07:36 PM
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whos squriming?
I posted a picture of saddams airforce
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CBJ7, you posted one picture of one plane from Saddam's air force. Furthermore, you've admitted some of his planes were flown to Iran. You've fully admitted he had an air force.
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06-24-2012, 07:04 PM
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For example, on 30 September 2004, the ISG released the Duelfer Report. It's conclusion: "Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability, which was essentially destroyed in 1991, after sanctions were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized. Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability—in an incremental fashion, irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks—but he intended to focus on ballistic missile and tactical chemical warfare (CW) capabilities."
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I want a big dick and free pussy for life.
He did not have WMD's.
Under that pretense, we can remove any and everybody because we 'think' they have them. Heads should have rolled because of this fuck up just like heads should roll because of the F&F fuck up.
You can not have it both ways.
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06-24-2012, 07:51 PM
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I want a big dick and free pussy for life.
He did not have WMD's.
Under that pretense, we can remove any and everybody because we 'think' they have them. Heads should have rolled because of this fuck up just like heads should roll because of the F&F fuck up.
You can not have it both ways.
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Just like your neighbor lady next door probably doesn't have any Easter Eggs at present; yet, she probably has eggs, food coloring and a means to boil water. Saddam had everything he needed -- except the opportunity -- to restart the programs once he got the UN off his back.
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06-24-2012, 08:06 PM
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500 tons of whatever it took to make nerve gas left absolutely NO trace evidence those ingredients ever existed ..,. EVER.
neither saddam or any of his minions were capable of hiding that evidence from our sophisticated equipment
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06-24-2012, 08:28 PM
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500 tons of whatever it took to make nerve gas left absolutely NO trace evidence those ingredients ever existed ..,. EVER.
neither saddam or any of his minions were capable of hiding that evidence from our sophisticated equipment
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On 30 September 2004, the ISG released the Duelfer Report. It's conclusion: "Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability, which was essentially destroyed in 1991, after sanctions were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized. Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability—in an incremental fashion, irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks—but he intended to focus on ballistic missile and tactical chemical warfare (CW) capabilities."
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06-24-2012, 08:40 PM
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What we wanted was the access to his oil.
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Just like your neighbor lady next door probably doesn't have any Easter Eggs at present; yet, she probably has eggs, food coloring and a means to boil water. Saddam had everything he needed -- except the opportunity -- to restart the programs once he got the UN off his back.
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Two different subjects.
Bush said Saddam was the Easter Bunny! Without that lie (even if Bush thought it was the truth at the time) whe does not get the backing to go to war. That lie was the key reason we went to war.
Most believed him.
This was was Minority Report...we are doing actions to people based on things we think they might do.
That is a very slippery slope there my friend.
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06-24-2012, 08:40 PM
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On 30 September 2004, the ISG released the Duelfer Report. It's conclusion: "Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability, which was essentially destroyed in 1991, after sanctions were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized. Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability—in an incremental fashion, irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks—but he intended to focus on ballistic missile and tactical chemical warfare (CW) capabilities."
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"The Iraqi regime possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons.... If we know Saddam Hussein has dangerous weapons today -- and we do -- does it make any sense for the world to wait to confront him as he grows even stronger and develops even more dangerous weapons?" - President George W. Bush, Cincinnati, Oct. 7, 2002
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06-24-2012, 08:49 PM
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"The Iraqi regime possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons.... If we know Saddam Hussein has dangerous weapons today -- and we do -- does it make any sense for the world to wait to confront him as he grows even stronger and develops even more dangerous weapons?" - President George W. Bush, Cincinnati, Oct. 7, 2002
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A statement based on intel mired in propaganda propagated by Saddam Hussein.
On 30 September 2004, the ISG released the Duelfer Report. It's conclusion: "Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability, which was essentially destroyed in 1991, after sanctions were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized. Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability—in an incremental fashion, irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks—but he intended to focus on ballistic missile and tactical chemical warfare (CW) capabilities."
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06-24-2012, 08:55 PM
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Two different subjects.
Bush said Saddam was the Easter Bunny!
Most believed him.
This was was Minority Report...we are doing actions to people based on things we think they might do.
That is a very slippery slope there my friend.
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You keep negating Saddam's role in the whole affair. Saddam said he was the Easter Bunny, and Saddam propagandized that he possessed WMD. Saddam's people believed he had WMD. Saddam's generals believed he had WMD. Saddam's regional neighbors believed he had WMD; so your -- Cee-Blow-Job-7 blow's -- contention that the U.S. should have known better is not credible. Saddam's every action indicated he did have WMD.
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06-24-2012, 08:58 PM
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A statement based on intel mired in propaganda propagated by Saddam Hussein.
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So our intel was Saddam?
Whose head should have rolled for the shitty intel? Who supplied Powell the crap he presented to the UN?
I ask you...whose head rolled in this government? Where was the outrage over this? A War was started that would not have been without this shitty intel...
Yet Eric Holder is the devil?
Come on man...this F&F is pure politics.....and even at that, I'm not saying anything is wrhong with it, it is how the game is played but please don't try and tell me that folks really care about anything else in this regard other than to go after Obama.
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06-24-2012, 09:00 PM
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A statement based on intel mired in propaganda propagated by Saddam Hussein.
On 30 September 2004, the ISG released the Duelfer Report. It's conclusion: "Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability, which was essentially destroyed in 1991, after sanctions were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized. Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability—in an incremental fashion, irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks—but he intended to focus on ballistic missile and tactical chemical warfare (CW) capabilities."
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gee, Bush took us to war based on Saddams statements mired in propaganda ... when did saddam say he had 500 tons of nerve gas?
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06-24-2012, 09:09 PM
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Y'all hate birthers. We hate WMDburpers...
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06-24-2012, 09:12 PM
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You keep negating Saddam's role in the whole affair. Saddam said he was the Easter Bunny, and Saddam propagandized that he possessed WMD. Saddam's people believed he had WMD. Saddam's generals believed he had WMD. Saddam's regional neighbors believed he had WMD; so your -- Cee-Blow-Job-7 blow's -- contention that the U.S. should have known better is not credible. Saddam's every action indicated he did have WMD.
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If your neighbor thinks he is the Easter Bunny....are you going to take his word for it? .....or are you going to make sure he can shit colored eggs?
I ask again, whose head rolled for this shitty job of gathering intel? That was the real tell if you ask me.
If I was your security man and you asked me to find out if your neighbor was the Easter Bunny because if he was you were going to kill him and marry his oil rich wife...
The catch is the public was not willing to go to war just so you could marry your neighbor's wife. You had to prove he was the Easter Bunny and not many people in the world ever believed that lie.
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