Eccie needs new thread.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Stop twisting my words.


Even if a website is hosted in the US, the first amendment isn't protected on it.



So I'll spell it out, easier so you can understand, and hopefully not twist my words to make me look like I don't know what I'm talking about


If ECCIE was hosted INSIDE of the US, the first amendment would not be protected on the site
If ECCIE was NOT hosted INSIDE the US, the first amendment would not be protected on the site.
I'll also throw in few a bonus extras!
If you were inside of someone's home, inside of the US, the first amendment would not be protected
If you were using someone's private service (such as a website, internet connection, newspaper) INSIDE the US, the first amendment would not be protected
If you were using someone's private service (such as a website, internet connection, newspaper) OUTSIDE the US, the first amendment would not be protected


The only place the first amendment is protected is when you are talking in PUBLIC.

A street corner is public.
A protect on public property is public
whitehouse.gov is public
This forum, any forum, any company's site, no matter where it is, as long as it is not owned and operated by the US government, is NOT protected for free speech.




People like to say 'first 'mendment, I can say what I want where I want!' but they are oh, so, so wrong.



Do I believe free speech as well as freedom to access information should be made a blanket law effecting everything? Depends. For the means to access data (internet, cellular), yes, I believe so. But I do not believe that Joe Shmo who owns a hookersite that's based in out of the Netherlands (because it is literally illegal in the US!), nor Twitter, nor Facebook, nor any private owned site, nor people in their homes need to uphold the first amendment... because it literally isn't written to cover that.

Big Tech. Twitter, FB, IG all censored free speech. And I didn’t twist your words, you specifically said Eccie was housed in America. Prove it. It has nothing to do with free speech but the accuracy of your statement.

[Jacuzzme]

@Ona

That depends on how the site sells itself, which is what the section 230 hubbub is all about.

[onawbtngr546]

Originally Posted by bambino

Big Tech. Twitter, FB, IG all censored free speech. And I didn’t twist your words, you specifically said Eccie was housed in America. Prove it. It has nothing to do with free speech but the accuracy of your statement.

It appears that sarcasm is lost on you. I had already said that ECCIE is hosted out of Netherlands, despite the domain name being owned by someone in Arizona. All of that information is available publicly.



So, no matter if someone in AZ owns the 'eccie.net' domain, and hosts it out of NL, or any other country, the first amendment has nothing to do with someone spamming on the website.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

It appears that sarcasm is lost on you. I had already said that ECCIE is hosted out of Netherlands, despite the domain name being owned by someone in Arizona. All of that information is available publicly.



So, no matter if someone in AZ owns the 'eccie.net' domain, and hosts it out of NL, or any other country, the first amendment has nothing to do with someone spamming on the website.

You haven’t articulated one Eccie rule or guideline that Berry has broken. Just because you say it’s spam doesn’t make it so. You and others have been bitching about this for two years. Can’t you take a hint? Eccie clearly doesn’t consider Berry’s threads are spam or anything else. End of story.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by bambino

You haven’t articulated one Eccie rule or guideline that Berry has broken. Just because you say it’s spam doesn’t make it so. You and others have been bitching about this for two years. Can’t you take a hint? Eccie clearly doesn’t consider Berry’s threads are spam or anything else. End of story.

Damn, Bambino can be eloquent? lol

Best post in thread Bam!

Again... I add. Staff has ruled on this many times. Even here in the Pitt forum.

Just a warning here from experience. I think eccie staff is showing much constraint right now.

[chizzy]

hmmmmm, I dont understand the problem

some thinks its spam, its clearly not and noone is making you read it, so ignore it

you say, well he posts multiple threads all the time, blocking or clogging up threads that might be more to your liking...ah, notice threads have a date listed. its not that hard to scroll down to see all new threads, is it?

[chizzy]

Originally Posted by mtnitlion

The posts are more maga lies coming from right wing nut jobs.
This is not an attack on berry berry but an attack of the posts content.

lies? you mean like these?

1. trump and russian collusion

2. dont wear masks, wait wear masks, masks will protect you and others, wait not really

3. the vaccine will protect you from getting covid, wait you can still get it

4. if you have the vaccine, you cant spread it to others, wait yes you can

5. unvaxd people spread the covid more than vaxd people, wait thats not true

6 covid did not come from the chinese lab.... opps yes it did

I could go on, you believe all the bullshit the goverment tells you and thats a shame.......

[rmg_35]

Originally Posted by chizzy

lies? you mean like these?

1. trump and russian collusion

2. dont wear masks, wait wear masks, masks will protect you and others, wait not really

3. the vaccine will protect you from getting covid, wait you can still get it

4. if you have the vaccine, you cant spread it to others, wait yes you can

5. unvaxd people spread the covid more than vaxd people, wait thats not true

6 covid did not come from the chinese lab.... opps yes it did

I could go on, you believe all the bullshit the goverment tells you and thats a shame.......

All false claims from the uninformed maga crowd. Go figure. And the sandbox is a shitshow because one person posts multiple times on a daily basis with at least 70 to 75 percent of all new posts. Then on top of that, keeps replying to his own posts to keep them in top and push other posts down. Only the maga radical right-wing thinks this bullshit is ok. But again, it mirrors all the maga thinking and actions on the national stage... only their voices should be heard and they want to drown out all other voices with conspiracy theories and bullshit.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by rmg_35

All false claims from the uninformed maga crowd. Go figure. And the sandbox is a shitshow because one person posts multiple times on a daily basis with at least 70 to 75 percent of all new posts. Then on top of that, keeps replying to his own posts to keep them in top and push other posts down. Only the maga radical right-wing thinks this bullshit is ok. But again, it mirrors all the maga thinking and actions on the national stage... only their voices should be heard and they want to drown out all other voices with conspiracy theories and bullshit.

Then explain why Democrats pushed Twitter, FB and Instagram to ban conservative voices? Yeah, that happened.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by chizzy

lies? you mean like these?

1. trump and russian collusion

2. dont wear masks, wait wear masks, masks will protect you and others, wait not really

3. the vaccine will protect you from getting covid, wait you can still get it

4. if you have the vaccine, you cant spread it to others, wait yes you can

5. unvaxd people spread the covid more than vaxd people, wait thats not true

6 covid did not come from the chinese lab.... opps yes it did

I could go on, you believe all the bullshit the goverment tells you and thats a shame.......

i'm ULTRA MAGA Gurl and i approve this post.

Originally Posted by rmg_35

All false claims from the uninformed maga crowd. Go figure. And the sandbox is a shitshow because one person posts multiple times on a daily basis with at least 70 to 75 percent of all new posts. Then on top of that, keeps replying to his own posts to keep them in top and push other posts down. Only the maga radical right-wing thinks this bullshit is ok. But again, it mirrors all the maga thinking and actions on the national stage... only their voices should be heard and they want to drown out all other voices with conspiracy theories and bullshit.

if you say so.

Originally Posted by mtnitlion

The posts are more maga lies coming from right wing nut jobs.
This is not an attack on berry berry but an attack of the posts content.

yes it is.

[chizzy]

Originally Posted by rmg_35

All false claims from the uninformed maga crowd. Go figure. And the sandbox is a shitshow because one person posts multiple times on a daily basis with at least 70 to 75 percent of all new posts. Then on top of that, keeps replying to his own posts to keep them in top and push other posts down. Only the maga radical right-wing thinks this bullshit is ok. But again, it mirrors all the maga thinking and actions on the national stage... only their voices should be heard and they want to drown out all other voices with conspiracy theories and bullshit.

sorry sir, not false claims, actually go ask your doctor about lines 2 thru 5 and he will tell you the exact thing and so will goverment listings or go back and watch interviews with dr fauci and see how he flip flopped on these. or keep your head in the sand

[Charley3]

And again for anyone keeping score, this isn’t about anyone’s right to post endlessly. Have at it. It’s about which forum does national political discussion belong. But I think everyone knows that.
And again, before another repetitive response, ignore button does jack shit. The non-political topics get buried in literally a day or two.

[rmg_35]

Originally Posted by chizzy

sorry sir, not false claims, actually go ask your doctor about lines 2 thru 5 and he will tell you the exact thing and so will goverment listings or go back and watch interviews with dr fauci and see how he flip flopped on these. or keep your head in the sand

Maga and faux and radical right-wing talking points. Death rates from covid were much higher with Republicans than democrats because they listened to the bullshit about masks and vaccines from total assholes like tRump and the radical right-wing conservative media. The biggest problem with this is that the maga and radical right repubicans ignored the recommendations of Fauci and listened to jackasses and made the pandemic worst for the country as a hole. Just like the maga crowd keep saying the election was stolen, this is just another example of misinformation passed on my the mindless gullible maga followers.

[Dr-epg]

Gentlemen first and last warning get back on topic

[Salty Again]

... Please let me say one last thing:

... Lads - when we're all complaining of rules and laws
and how everything is spam and one-sided here in the
Pittsburgh forum and the Monitours are not fair

... Lemme remind EVERYBODY - there are AT LEAST - FIVE (5)
posters in this very forum Who Have Recently Been BANNED!
And are "back" now. (I'm one of them)

And MOST of them have CONSERVATIVE VIEWS! ... So much for
a lack of fairness... ... Do you see ANY of the
conservative-minded lads complaining of a LACK of fairness?
... I DON'T.

... Now I surely understand the thoughts and views of everyone
commenting on the issue of a "new thread" or "new forum"
- but it do seem to me that the Monitours have been
good enough at making forum decisions here.

... Can't we all just continue on?

Sorry with me yelling with things, mates... But just tryin'
like Jack-the-Lad to get me point across.

#### Salty