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Old 07-03-2012, 08:32 AM   #46
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Funny; I thought you were pimping socialist healthcare systems.....afterall, you started the post glamorizing the phony outcomes of those systems.

Simple solutions Nonsense.....
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:35 AM   #47
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News flash. Obama was lying when he said his ObamaCareTax would bend the "cost curve" !!!!!
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:39 AM   #48
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Whirlygirly, if you stopped calling me a socialist and get your accounting in order, you may find we are not so far apart.

Acknowledging a problem is 90% of the solution.

I'm not sure how the market will help in education or primary care, maybe you can give examples. If the insurance/drug companies do the proper economics and are fully responsible for whole of life care, and there is a proper marketplace, maybe they will be incentivised.

My gf used one of those drop in primary care places the other day for something minor, it seemed to work OK apart from the fact that I had to pay for it as it was pre existing and she hadn't yet sorted out her insurance.
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:57 AM   #49
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Funny; I thought you were pimping socialist healthcare systems.....afterall, you started the post glamorizing the phony outcomes of those systems.

Simple solutions Nonsense.....
(a) pimping is hard work (sic)
(b) you have a very broad definition of socialist, it seems to cover every country bar US, and you probably think US under Obama is socialist too
(c) so what are the simple solutions suggested by Romney?
(d) anybody who says US system is the best in the world needs to be shaken out of their smug delusions.
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:59 AM   #50
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News flash. Obama was lying when he said his ObamaCareTax would bend the "cost curve" !!!!!
Did he say bend up or bend down

Screwed either way


Seriously, what needs to be done to bring US health care costs under control?
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:15 AM   #51
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There goes my 3 egg and pancake breakfast.

http://www.whataburger.com/Food/Nutrition

http://www.ihop.com/docs/nutritionalinformation.pdf

Do they publish this because of:

- consumer pressure
- government regulation
- good will
- it boosts profits

??
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:11 PM   #52
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Did he say bend up or bend down

Screwed either way


Seriously, what needs to be done to bring US health care costs under control?
no, he said
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:42 PM   #53
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Which Ospicables are better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-ti...feature=fvwrel or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43WZ...ated..I'll
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:47 PM   #54
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Did he say bend up or bend down

Screwed either way


Seriously, what needs to be done to bring US health care costs under control?
One of the big problems (financially) with our healthcare system is that we have millions of people (Americans and illegal aliens) that use the emergency rooms for the sniffles because private practitioners will not see them if they don't have insurance or pay up front. If hospitals did the same for patients with NON LIFE-THREATENING ailments, healthcare would be much, much cheaper.

I know of one healthcare corporation that is battling this by prescribing the newest, highest priced antibiotics and other drugs with no generics available and tough to get opiates from the docs, so when they go to get their scripts filled, they have a $400 pharmacy bill. It didn't take long until the freeloaders started avoiding their hospitals, now the ER for the most part, only has people that are truly in need of emergency care and receive a very high level of personal service since they are not bogged down with hundreds of people with a cold. Always more than one way to skin a cat.
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