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11-19-2012, 03:25 PM
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Doesn't surprise me that Obaminable has to hide behind women for cover.
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11-19-2012, 03:26 PM
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1 ... Lamb, the official in charge of protecting U.S. embassies and consulates, told the committee, "We had the correct number of assets in Benghazi at the time of 9/11."
Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., asked Lamb if she turned down requests for more security in Benghazi. "Yes sir, I said personally I would not support it," she replied. "We were training local Libyans and army men" to provide security, a policy in force at U.S. diplomatic facilities around the world.
2 ... Her boss is Hillary ... shes taken full responsibility for Lamb's decision.
unless down the line dept head decisions have to have a mandatory presidential approval before they are implemented. ... no
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Four people are dead. I guarantee no one will be held accountable here or in Libya. It will be marked off as just one of those unfortunate happenings.
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11-19-2012, 04:13 PM
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at the end of the day what is it youre looking for?
punishment of some sort?
the same punishment Reagan and his admin recieved for letting the Lebanon embassy be bombed resulting in 220 amreican deaths and a BLANTANT act of war against the USA?
that my friend is nothing short of one of those unfortunate happenings
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11-19-2012, 05:03 PM
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the same punishment Reagan and his admin recieved ...
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Putting your bullshit about "letting" aside ... "Reagan and his administration" immediately got in the middle of the situation and did not lie about it, dream up some lame ass bullshit about a "movie, or hide behind the skirts of his appointees ...
.. and more importantly there was not sufficient time to respond to the situation and prevent it from happening .. as the event was unfolding ... as was the case in Libya.
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11-19-2012, 05:52 PM
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at the end of the day what is it youre looking for?
punishment of some sort?
the same punishment Reagan and his admin recieved for letting the Lebanon embassy be bombed resulting in 220 amreican deaths and a BLANTANT act of war against the USA?
that my friend is nothing short of one of those unfortunate happenings
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If their is wrong doing, negligence or anything criminal in the decisions on the part of the Government then appropiate action should be taken. Reagan didn't let anything get bombed. Obama orchestrated what was originally suppose to be a kidnapping of Stevens but the plan went terribly wrong so they blamed the attack on a YouTube Video. This is the type of crap that goes on when a rogue administration is in power. All these people lie. None of them are on the level, none of them care about us. It's all about power who rules, it's as simple as that.
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11-20-2012, 10:43 PM
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1 ... Lamb, the official in charge of protecting U.S. embassies and consulates, told the committee, "We had the correct number of assets in Benghazi at the time of 9/11."
Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., asked Lamb if she turned down requests for more security in Benghazi. "Yes sir, I said personally I would not support it," she replied. "We were training local Libyans and army men" to provide security, a policy in force at U.S. diplomatic facilities around the world.
2 ... Her boss is Hillary ... shes taken full responsibility for Lamb's decision.
unless down the line dept head decisions have to have a mandatory presidential approval before they are implemented. ... no
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Well unfortunately Lamb and H. Clinton made poor decisions. The Libians they trained ran off leaving the Americans behind to fend for themselves. The Prersident should have rrealized the decisions Lamb made were not definitive ones and he should have intervened. If their isn't a cover up their certainly was a gross breakdown in communication and that is unacceptable as well.
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11-20-2012, 11:11 PM
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Four people are dead. I guarantee no one will be held accountable here or in Libya. It will be marked off as just one of those unfortunate happenings.
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Sadly acp I believe you are correct. Four Americans are dead but their death is just another talking point. There was no outrage expressed at the polls by the voters of this country and I don't know what charge could be brought up. Lying to the American people isn't a charge.
The biggest dereliction of duty is that Obama threw the First Amendment under the bus and the complicit succubus media sat on their hands.
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11-21-2012, 05:28 AM
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Negligent homicide is a crime.
Recklessly causing the death of another is manslaughter.
"A person acts recklessly, or is reckless, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he is aware of but consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that its disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint."
That definition is consistent with the model penal code and criminal jurisprudence in this country, which would include Federal law. Ambassador Stevens was a Federal official protected by Federal laws and the killing of a Federal official is a Federal offense.
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11-21-2012, 07:03 AM
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[QUOTE=gnadfly;1051928836]Sadly acp I believe you are correct. Four Americans are dead but their death is just another talking point
You are right there turd fly,after the election was lost this is all you all have to carp about.
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11-21-2012, 07:33 AM
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Obama orchestrated what was originally suppose to be a kidnapping of Stevens but the plan went terribly wrong so they blamed the attack on a YouTube Video..
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HUH? WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU GETTING THAT BULLSHIT?
You guys are really jackasses. One conspiracy theory falls apart and you have to come up with another one?
Just fucking lame.
In the end I only agree with one thing you said:
"Well unfortunately Lamb and H. Clinton made poor decisions". That in concert with congress cutting funds for Embassy security.
It was a terrible unfortunate incident that cost 4 lives, but they need not die in vain. We can learn from it and make sure it never happens again. As for all this conspiracy bullshit because you hate Obama and can't deal with the fact that he got re-elected. You really need to get over that fucking bullshit.
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11-21-2012, 07:56 AM
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... but they need not die in vein. We can learn from it and make sure it never happens again. .....
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I agree 100% with that statement. But .....
... the "learning" depends on what "it" means! (To coin someone else's defense.)
Your version of "it" varies from even the administration's version ... at first AND now!
Even AA knows better ... one must admit responsibility for one's own actions before one can make course corrections to change behavior.
The President of the United States is tasked with the responsibilities of the CIC and the safety of his own officials and personnel .. not Congress .. and he, himself, even assumes that responsibility with regard to the events in Lybia regarding his appointee, Ambassador Stevens.
All that other bullshit about movies, budgets, timelines, response times, and "real time" ... is smoke and mirrors to avoid the obvious ....
a woman in Houston just 80 years for leaving a child unattended while she went shopping ... the child died in a fire! What was Obaminable doing while there was a fire ........... fight!!!
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11-21-2012, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Negligent homicide is a crime.
Recklessly causing the death of another is manslaughter.
"A person acts recklessly, or is reckless, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he is aware of but consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that its disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint."
That definition is consistent with the model penal code and criminal jurisprudence in this country, which would include Federal law. Ambassador Stevens was a Federal official protected by Federal laws and the killing of a Federal official is a Federal offense.
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youre a federal MORON
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11-21-2012, 08:01 AM
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Double post.
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11-21-2012, 08:03 AM
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youre a federal MORON
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And that's on LL(DINO's) best days. It's all downhill after that!
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11-21-2012, 08:04 AM
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youre a federal MORON
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Actually not. You are:
18 USC Section 1112: Manslaughter
Involuntary--In the commission, … without due caution and circumspection, of a lawful act which might produce death.
Guilty of “…involuntary manslaughter shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six years, or both.”
18 USC Section 1114 Protection of Employee or Official of the U.S.
And by the way genius ... its not "youre" ...
.... it is "you're".... while you're being a moron at least watch your spelling and grammar.
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